21st Battalion KRRC - the original Yeomen

[MBrockway]

Lovely picture Jane - thanks for posting.

Mark

[Jane Heyburn]

Hi 

Slightly larger than I thought but thanks!

Jane

[Liz in Eastbourne]

Thank you very much, Jane, and sorry this is so belated - since the forum update I cannot get notifications from topics for which I've asked for them, I don't know why, and I missed this.

 

EDIT problem now fixed, I'm glad to say - thanks to one of our mods, Glen (spof).

Liz 

Edited 25 October , 2016 by Liz in Eastbourne

[Mike R]

Hi Liz,

 

As a newcomer to the forum, I thought I should drop you a line as my grandfather was in the 21st Battalion KRR (Yeoman Rifles). At the time of joining, he was a farmer in Hunmanby, North Yorkshire. His name was Fred Maw (born 1888). Although I know he was wounded, he survived the war and returned to farming in Hunmanby.

 

As indicated and expected within previous comments on this forum, as a farmer from East Yorkshire he was in 'A' company and was amongst those whose initial training took place at Helmsley, before being sent to Aldershot and then on to France.

 

My grandfather died when I was only 6 months of age so I am relying on the sparse information we have at present...like many others who survived this terrible conflict, apparently he never wanted to speak of his experiences and was never prompted to do so - as result, limited information has been 'passed on' and I have pretty much no idea as to how to investigate further - so any hints/information would be helpful!!

 

Now, the internet is a wonderful platform to start this exercise and, after looking at the various photographs which have been loaded on to various websites, it has become apparent that those available  that relate to the 21st Battalion are mainly either 'B' or 'C' company and those that I have found relating to 'A' company are photos of the officers or copies of the 'Countess' photo which does not show the full company.......

 

I mentioned earlier that it terms of information passed on from the family, this is limited in content and volume. HOWEVER, I do have in my possession a photograph which was taken in Aldershot.......on it are 271 men, the photo has a cardboard 'frame' which is embossed (not hand written) the following title/description:- "A" Company, 21st K.R.R. (Yeoman Rifles), Aldershot, 1916.

 

I am unsure whether or now you or others have ever seen this BUT it may be interest to any who are researching family members who also served within this particular company.....the photograph does not include names but, like ourselves, maybe anyone investigating would recognise family members?? If you think this will be of interest, how best do you think I should get this to the forum?..........In addition, do you (or any other members) think this photograph should be sent to any other relevant parties?

 

My computer skills DO have a limit so be gentle with me!

 

I also have  photograph/postcard of Fred Maw in uniform with 6 other riflemen (on the reverse a family member has made a note saying it was taken in Helmsley village?). No names are on the reverse....

 

Another photo shows him in uniform 'somewhere in France' 28th July 2016

Another photo shows him 'somewhere in Italy'...date looks like August 2018

Another photo shows him with his arm in a sling (we know he was wounded at some time) sat with 3 others...

 

 

I hope the above will be of interest and please let me know your thoughts of the photograph....any help re my own investigations would also be very much appreciated.

 

Kindest regards

Mike Randerson

[Liz in Eastbourne]

Hello Mike - welcome to the forum and thanks for coming to this thread!

I've had a look for your grandfather on Ancestry but could only find his Medal Index Card and roll entry - did you find his military record?  He couldn't have been in Italy in August 1918 with 21/KRRC, as they were disbanded in March 1918, but it seems he was in the Labour Corps afterwards, no.635516 so was presumably there with them. His 21/KRRC number was C/12194 (they've missed the C off on the MiC). The 'somewhere in France' in July 1916 would be Ploegsteert Wood ('Plugstreet'). 

 

Photos are always of great interest, though it's true absence of names reduces their interest a bit.  As you say, family members may recognise their men.  I have always uploaded mine from Photobucket, using a free account (that means you have to put up with tedious advertising, but I don't use it enough to warrant a paid account).  I'd have to go and look at the page to remind myself how to do it but it's fairly straightforward. This saves the bandwidth used by uploading direct to the forum, which I have never done.  But Mark Brockway, who will I hope see your post, is a computer expert and of course much better on the technicalities than I am. Anyway, we'd be very interested to see them.

 

You asked about any other interested parties.  It might be worth contacting the Royal Green Jackets Museum in Winchester - I got my officer group photo from them and I don't think they had an A Company photo. 

 

Look forward to hearing more from you.

 

Liz

 

Edited 14 March , 2017 by Liz in Eastbourne
to add 'August' before 1918 - 21/KRRC were in Italy at the beginning of the year, returning to England in March.

[Mike R]

Hi Liz,

 

Many thanks for the response......you have already given me information I didn't have! I will use this as a platform and try to find as much other info as I can.

 

As you suggest, I should contact the Royal Green Jackets at Winchester to see if they would like a copy of the "A" company photograph... I will TRY and send a copy to the forum (via this thread?) so that others have access to it.

 

Kind regards and thanks again for the input - it is appreciated.

 

Mike Randerson

[MBrockway]

Mike - welcome to the Forum and a big hello to another member of our extended "Rifles" family here.

 

I would be very happy to help get your photos posted here.

 

If you send me the best resolution digital images you can, then I can compress them down to the size required for the Forum while also protecting their detail.

 

I've sent you a message with my e-mail address.

 

Cheers,

Mark

[Mike R]

Hi Mark/Liz,

 

I have emailed a scanned image of the original 'A' company photograph taken in Aldershot prior to the company being shipped over to France...I have emailed this to your own email address Mark. IF the image is not clear enough to then transfer it to the forum, Mark, if you are in agreement I will make a journey to see you so that you can take a more 'usable' copy - I know you will agree that, for interested parties (family members) who may be looking to trace relatives, then they will only be able to do this if the image is as clear as we can make it.

 

Liz - you kindly confirmed that my Grandfather's (Fred Maw of A company) KRR/21 number was C/12194...........as well as finding one or two photographs of him and his fellow riflemen, I have now found his 'KRR' badge and also his circular tag which clearly confirms his name and number! (Not sure how many of these are still around?).

 

Regards.

 

Mike Randerson

[MBrockway]

Mike - apologies, I e-mailed you about an hour ago!  I safely received the first photo yesterday tea time, but was tied up with mountain rescue team business.

 

Here's Mike's photograph of the whole of A Company at Aldershot in 1916.  The battalion embarked to France on 04 May 1916.

 

The photograph is credited to F. Scovell, Queen's Road, Aldershot.

 

I'm afraid Mike's original was a bit fuzzy, as he does not have access to a scanner, so this is the best I can do while we sort out how to get a good scan.  Nevertheless it's still a possible target for image poachers, so I've added a watermark making its origins very unambiguous!

 

Unfortunately very hard to make out faces, but this can act as a placeholder to show Pals the potential of the picture.

 

 

C/12194 Rfn Fred MAW is 14th from the right hand end of the row at the front sitting cross-legged.

 

Mark

 

Edited 17 March , 2017 by MBrockway
Photographer details added

[MBrockway]

Mike's photograph of his grandfather in a studio "somewhere in France" is luckily much clearer ...

 

C/12194 Rfn Fred MAW, A Coy, 21/KRRC

 

Note the simplified "utility" SD tunic without pocket pleats and rifle patches and I think that's a PH gas helmet satchel at his side.  I believe the PH gas helmet would bracket the photograph to between late 1915 and early 1917, with the tunic pointing to the earlier part of that range.  21/KRRC were not in theatre until May 1916 so no reason to carry gas protection earlier than then.  More expert Pals will no doubt give a more accurate time window.

[Edit: doh!  I've just spotted Mike's accompanying e-mail includes the fact that the rear of the photograph has "somewhere in France 28 July 1916" written in his grandfather's hand - at least that confirms my gear dating skills!  Too much rush on my part to get this lovely photo up onto the Forum!]

 

Fred's MIC shows he ended the war serving as Pte 635516 in the Labour Corps suggesting he was no longer A1 fighting fit.  This may have been due to sickness, ill health or the effects of wounds.  Has anyone checked for a service record for Fred Maw on Ancestry?  (I don't have access just now).

[Edit: on checking Liz's post above, I see Liz already confirmed only his MIC and LC medal roll entry are on Ancestry as well as mentioning his Labour Corps transfer]

 

And I'm sure Mike will appreciate a close-up of his grandfather's face ...

 

Mark

 

Edited 17 March , 2017 by MBrockway

[Mike R]

Hi Mark,

 

Just making sure you safely received all emails sent by myself.....I sent 4 photographs individually - as a family we were aware he was wounded at some time and one of the photos appears to show him with his arm in a sling so perhaps this may explain the transfer at some point to labour corps?....Either prior to or after they has been disbanded?

 

Let me know if you didn't receive all 4 of the photos Mark......thanks you for loading the photo of granddad on to the forum....it is appreciated.

 

Kindest regards.

Mike

[MBrockway]

10 minutes ago, Mike R said:

Hi Mark,

 

Just making sure you safely received all emails sent by myself.....I sent 4 photographs individually - as a family we were aware he was wounded at some time and one of the photos appears to show him with his arm in a sling so perhaps this may explain the transfer at some point to labour corps?....Either prior to or after they has been disbanded?

 

Let me know if you didn't receive all 4 of the photos Mark......thanks you for loading the photo of granddad on to the forum....it is appreciated.

 

Kindest regards.

Mike

Only received three so far Mike.  The last one was the one you originally sent to the incorrect e-mail address, so probably worth checking your Sent Items to see if the fourth went to that same wrong address as well.

 

I will have to wait for a bit before I can get stuck in with this next batch - real life calls!

 

Mark

 

[MBrockway]

Next of Mike's photos shows Fred Maw in a small group of other 60th riflemen.  Fred's in the middle of the back row.  On the rear the simple annotation "At Helmsley".  Liz can probably give us a date bracket in 1915 from that.

 

 

 

 

Of note in this photo are the simplified SD tunics as per the 1916 photo.  Only the rifleman left end of back row is in the "proper" SD tunic with pocket pleat and rifle patches.

 

Note also the mix of blackened rifles buttons and standard brass General Service buttons, demonstrating the maxim that while blackened buttons proves a rifleman, lack of same doesn't prove he's not.

 

The chap sitting on the right is wearing a wrist watch, which is quite unusual for the time.  The war greatly accelerated the transition from pocket watches to wrist watches.

 

For the purposes of identifying the other men in the photo, here's a close-up ...

 

More in a tick!

[MBrockway]

Next up is a group of men in hospital blues.  Fred is the man on the left with his arm in a sling.

 

And again here's a close-up ...

 

Note here that none of these men are cap badged to the KRRC including Fred.  Fred's might be the GS badge worn early on by the Labour Corps, but I'm certainly not confident on that.  The others could possibly be DOW (West Riding) Regt?  Or Royal Artillery?  What do we think?

 

Here's a version with the colour inverted as this sometimes helps with making out the badges ...

More tomorrow.

 

Mark

 

 

Edited 17 March , 2017 by MBrockway

[Liz in Eastbourne]

12 hours ago, Mike R said:

.......

 

Liz - you kindly confirmed that my Grandfather's (Fred Maw of A company) KRR/21 number was C/12194...........as well as finding one or two photographs of him and his fellow riflemen, I have now found his 'KRR' badge and also his circular tag which clearly confirms his name and number! (Not sure how many of these are still around?).

 

 

This is all terrific, Mike and Mark.  I'd better look through and see if there's anything at all I can contribute, but Mark has pretty much done it all I think.

I am not sure if I have ever seen a 21/KRRC tag in the flesh and don't know how many are still around, but it's great that you have it.  That's quite an early number:  we can't date it precisely from that as men were enlisting at different centres, but my great-aunt's fiance J T Hardcastle was C/12190 and he enlisted at Ripon on 11 November 1915.  I'd expect your grandfather to have enlisted around that time too.

[Liz in Eastbourne]

12 hours ago, MBrockway said:

Mike - apologies, I e-mailed you about an hour ago!  I safely received the first photo yesterday tea time, but was tied up with mountain rescue team business.

 

Here's Mike's photograph of the whole of A Company at Aldershot in 1916.  The battalion embarked to France on 04 May 1916.

 

The photograph is credited to F. Scovell, Queen's Road, Aldershot.

 

I'm afraid Mike's original was a bit fuzzy, as he does not have access to a scanner, so this is the best I can do while we sort out how to get a good scan.  Nevertheless it's still a possible target for image poachers, so I've added a watermark making its origins very unambiguous!

 

Unfortunately very hard to make out faces, but this can act as a placeholder to show Pals the potential of the picture.

 

 

C/12194 Rfn Fred MAW is 14th from the right hand end of the row at the front sitting cross-legged.

 

Mark

 

 

Thanks, Mark - same photographer of course as the others taken at Aldershot. We know most of the battalion left Helmsley on 22 January 1916 and arrived at Aldershot that night.

(EDIT They had been at Duncombe Park since about the first week in December  1915 - just to give you the time you asked for, Mark, for dating the Helmsley pictures.)

 

I don't think we've had explicit mention of a date for the photographs, but I tried to deduce it, if they were all taken about the same time. Lt Meysey-Thompson didn't get his transfer from the Royal Berkshire Regiment till 29 January, and was given very vague instructions, but had heard they were at Helmsley and went up by train  only to find the battalion had left Duncombe Park several days earlier 'leaving only some 'measles contacts' and a rear party'.  He eventually got to Aldershot on 1 February.  There must have been a German measles epidemic, I think, as he then got it himself and was in an isolation hospital from 13-24 Feb and not back on duty till 6 March.  As he doesn't appear in the officer group photograph, I think they may have been taken during that period.

 

Mark, I fear the rest of this thread is wide open to image poachers.  Too late!

 

Liz

Edited 17 March , 2017 by Liz in Eastbourne

[MBrockway]

Last one now on Fred Maw for the time being - and it's his ID disk or 'dog tag' and his KRR shoulder title, still showing a hint of blackening.

 

 

The dog tag is his "Disc, Identity, No 2, red".  He would also have been issued with "Disc, Identity, No 1, green", similar but octagonal, which was the disk that in the event of death remained with a soldier's body.  Both disks were made of vulcanised asbestos fibre.

 

"WES" is the code for Fred's religious denomination - in this case Wesleyan.  The other stampings are self-explanatory.

 

The best summary of Great War ID tags I've seen is on the Western Front Association website here:

Identifying the Dead: a Short Study of the Identification Tags of 1914-1918

 

The KRR shoulder title, or 'ST', was worn at the base (i.e. shoulder end) of the epaulette parallel to the tunic seam joining sleeve to shoulder yoke.  It would originally have been blackened in the rifles tradition.  Just to clarify, Mike - it's not a cap badge.

 

Mike's also asked me off the board about "60th" I used higher up.  "60th" was the KRRC's regimental number, officially dropped in 1881, but remaining in use informally as shorthand for the regiment.  This continued right through the Royal Green Jackets era and until the formation of the Rifles.  2/Rifles continues the lineage of the KRRC, but it is Rifles policy to break down battalion distinctions and share the traditions of all the Rifles' antecedent regiments across all the battalions.  Personally despite this I still keep a particular eye open for news of 2/Rifles

 

The sister regiment, the Rifle Brigade, were originally the "95th", but dropped that number in 1816 only eight years after formation.  Thereafter the RB was effectively treated as a specialist regiment outside the infantry line of precedence and simply known as The Rifle Brigade.  "95th" was re-applied to the Derbyshire Regiment.  The RB's lineage is continued as 4/Rifles.

 

And to head off getting sidetracked with corrections, I should say that, for the sake of brevity, the last two paragraphs somewhat simplify the two regiments' genealogy

 

Mark

 

 

[MBrockway]

Returning to the hospital blues photo, Mike might appreciate having some colours added.   Here's a modern re-enactors version of "Convalescent Blues" from another topic here on the Forum ...

[image courtesy of Pal Frogsmile]

 

... though I'm not sure the jacket had a pocket.  The jacket cuffs were often also turned up as there was a limited range of sizes.  I'm not certain, but I think that's how Fred's wearing his.

 

This website has a nice short but wide-ranging essay on "hospital blues":

The Wellcome Library - The ‘Convalescent Blues’ in Frederick Cayley Robinson’s ‘Acts of Mercy’

Edited 18 March , 2017 by MBrockway

[Granite-Yorkie]

I've been doing some of my own digging and it's interesting to note that several senior NCOs were posted to the Battalion having been transferred from the Cavalry- 12944 CSM Harry Gibson (D Company) and 12943 CQMS Leonard Woodward (C Company) from the Royal Scots Greys and 12902 RQMS Arthur Bromham from the 1st Dragoons.  There was also 12976 Sgt Daniel Duggan, who was transferred from the Royal Munster Fusiliers.

[Liz in Eastbourne]

That is interesting, G-Y - you don't think this is another case of someone in an office thinking the Yeoman Rifles were mounted, as the name misleadingly suggests, do you?!

As mentioned way back, the Earl of Feversham previously commanded the Yorkshire Hussars and the Transport Officer, Lt Potter, was with them too.  I can't recall whether there were any other cavalry officers though the officers' details are all here, further back, but I don't think so.

 

Mark, I expect Mike has been in touch with you off the forum about all the details you supplied - thanks from me too.

 

Liz

Edited 6 April , 2017 by Liz in Eastbourne

[Granite-Yorkie]

Hi Liz,

 

I am thinking that the ex-Cavalrymen were transferred across due to a shortage of available KRRC regular NCOs at home- and the Cavalry were a bit more "flush" with experienced regulars. As Anthony Eden noted in Another World, resources were spread very thinly over the twenty-odd battalions of the KRRC.  I have seen Harry Gibson's records relating to the Yeoman Rifles- he joined them as A/CQMS in October 1915, having been out with the Royal Scots Greys in 1914 and being wounded (he was a Section D man).

 

On another matter, I've been looking at the picture of No.5 Platoon- can name the Platoon Sergeant with almost certainty, almost certainly Thomas George Rogers, who originally came from Pembroke but was living in the West Riding working for the Admiralty (1911 census).  He appears to have served in South Africa- most likely bet, from my digging, is with the Montgomeryshire Yeomanry (will check this out).  There is also a Colour Sergeant in the picture- it's not CQMS Cowling, that I know, so I am wondering if this guy- whom I cannot yet name- is the Orderly Room Sergeant (Base Depot)? Got a day off today so going to go digging as the Yeoman Rifles fascinate me too  

 

 

[MBrockway]

3 minutes ago, Granite-Yorkie said:

Hi Liz,

 

I am thinking that the ex-Cavalrymen were transferred across due to a shortage of available KRRC regular NCOs at home- and the Cavalry were a bit more "flush" with experienced regulars. As Anthony Eden noted in Another World, resources were spread very thinly over the twenty-odd battalions of the KRRC.  I have seen Harry Gibson's records relating to the Yeoman Rifles- he joined them as A/CQMS in October 1915, having been out with the Royal Scots Greys in 1914 and being wounded (he was a Section D man).

 

 

My thoughts too.  Note the nearby service numbers (and for the avoidance of doubt, they all have all numeric SNs, not C/ prefixes).

 

Leonard Woodward has quite a convoluted military history - Infantryman in the Leicesters in the 1890's, then Royal Scots Greys, service in the Boer War, then 2/Dragoons, KRRC, apparently finishing off in Military Foot Police!  I'll do a summary when I get time.

 

Mark

 

[Granite-Yorkie]

Mark,

 

I'd be interested to see what you've got on Leonard Woodward- I knew about the Dragoons and the Foot Police, as well as 21/KRRC but not the Leicestershires.  From what I recall from the South Africa War medal roll, he transferred to the Reserve- I assume that he changed his mind and returned to the colours as his WW1 Medal Card has his Dragoons number on it.

 

On the matter of Thomas George Rogers, for Liz, it appears that he was with the City Imperial Volunteers in South Africa, not the Montgomeryshire Yeomanry as I had suggested earlier (thank you, Ancestry).  Another veteran was Richard Whitcock Stokes, Sergeant in No.7 Platoon, who served with the Volunteer Service Company of the 1st West Riding Regiment and then the Imperial Light Horse.

 

Another interesting transferee is William A. Beaven- who went to France with the RAMC in February 1915 and then seems to have transferred to the KRRC (R/17567) and been posted to the Yeoman Rifles, becoming a Sergeant (he was a Metropolitan Policeman after WW1).

[MBrockway]

9 hours ago, MBrockway said:

 

My thoughts too.  Note the nearby service numbers (and for the avoidance of doubt, they all have all numeric SNs, not C/ prefixes).

 

Leonard Woodward has quite a convoluted military history - Infantryman in the Leicesters in the 1890's, then Royal Scots Greys, service in the Boer War, then 2/Dragoons, KRRC, apparently finishing off in Military Foot Police!  I'll do a summary when I get time.

 

Mark

 

Doh!  Wasn't thinking - Royal Scots Greys and 2nd Dragoons are of course the same regiment!

[MBrockway]

Leonard WOODWARD

Born: June 1875, Coventry, Warks.
Occupation at enlistment: Coachman

MILITARY CAREER

25 Jul 1893 - enlisted at Leicester, aged 18yrs 1 month. Terms - Short Service: 7 years with Colours; 5 in Reserve
as Pte, 12943, Leicestershire Regiment
25 Jul 1893 - posted to Depot
17 Oct 1893 - posted 2nd Battalion, Leicestershire Regt.
25 Jul 1895 - granted 1d (i.e. one penny) Good Conduct pay
10 Oct 1895 - transferred as Pte. to 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys)
01 May 1898 - elected to come under 02 Apr 1898 messing regulations
25 Apr 1899 - forfeited 1d GC pay

06 Nov 1899 - disembarked in South Africa for 2nd Boer War service

25 Apr 1900 - restored 1d GC pay
25 Apr 1902 - granted further GC pay

19 Aug 1902 - returned to UK

[I think you have already have his data from the QSA and KSA rolls]

War Gratuity issued under the S. Africa Demobilisation Regulations 1902

19 Nov 1902 - transferred 1st Class Army Reserve
24 Jul 1905 - discharged on termination of 1st period of engagement
12 Aug 1905 - enlisted at Edinburgh for Sec D Army Reserve for 4 years
Attested as Service Number 4198 in 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys)
[I'd say there's a fair chance he actually got this 2/Dragoons number when he transferred in 1895]

14 Aug 1905 - Cavalry Records, Canterbury
07 Aug 1909 - re-engaged for Sec D Army Reserve for further term of 4 years effective 12 Aug 1909
28 Jul 1913 - re-engaged for Sec D Army Reserve until he attains the age of 42 years viz. 25 Jul 1917 effective 12 Aug 1913

[Aug 1914 - 5th Cavalry Reserve Regiment formed at York. Trained men for the 1st and 2nd Dragoons, Northumberland Hussars, Yorkshire Dragoons, Yorkshire Hussars, East Riding Yeomanry]

 

05 Aug 1914 - mobilised
Appears to be using his Royal Scots Greys 4198 Service Number
22 Aug 1914 - posted as L/Cpl to 5th Cavalry Reserve Regiment
18 Sep 1914 - promoted Cpl, 5th Cavalry Reserve Regiment
09 Dec 1914 - promoted Sergt, 5th Cavalry Reserve Regiment

12 Nov 1915 - transferred to 21st (Service) Bn., KRRC (aged 40 years)
[appears to revert to his original 12943 Service Number]
15 Nov 1915 - appointed Acting CQMS

[04 May 1916 - 21/KRRC proceed to France & Flanders, but he appears to stay in UK]
01 Jun 1916 - confirmed in rank Authority 21st Battalion

26 Oct 1916 - disembarked in France & Flanders
26 Oct 1916 - appointed Acting CSM

12 Jan 1917 - reverts to CQMS

05 Sep 1917 - returned to UK
06 Sep 1917 - posted Depot, KRRC [at Winchester]

16 Oct 1917 - posted 5th (Reserve) Battalion, KRRC [at Sheerness]

16 Jun 1918 - retained in the service under the Military Service Act of 1916

02 Jul 1918 - reverts to Sergt at own request, still with 5/KRRC

At some point after this he was transferred to the Military Foot Police for Home Service.  He appears in the MFP medal roll as L/Cpl (see below), but he appears to have been issued with his medals to the KRRC.

11 Feb 1919 - Discharged surplus to requirements not having suffered impairment since entry into the service.
[Total Service 25 years 184 days]

BRITISH WAR & VICTORY MEDALS ROLL ENTRIES  (see also his MIC)

KRRC Roll - Supplementary Roll M/101B/43, p.5315, 30 Jun 1921
12943 CQMS WOODWARD, Leonard, 21st Bn. K.R.Rif.C. 12943 Col.Sgt.
Duplicate submission by Military Foot Police Records on Roll No. B.1352
Medal issued from p.1352 MFP roll.  Authority M/101B/43

Military Foot Police Roll - MFP/101B/9, p.1352, ?05? Dec 1920
P18131 L/Cpl WOODWARD, L, 4198 CQMS 21 KRRC. Served in France & Flanders (1) 5.5.16 to 4.9.17

 

His medals appear to have been inscribed 12943 Col Sgt Leonard Woodward, K.R.Rif.C, but uncertain on this.

 

There is no KRRC soldier with Service Number 4198 on the BW&VM medal roll.

 

Let me know if you want to see these medal roll pages.

 

I have had a look through the 21/KRRC war diaries but couldn't see any mention of him.  Sharper eyes may have more luck!

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

Edited 8 April , 2017 by MBrockway