Jim Strawbridge Posted 15 January , 2023 Share Posted 15 January , 2023 Thank you, dink999. Three more for me. 841 L. Cpl. Pheasant, H. 2nd Seaforths. I have the 1914/5 star trio to 841 L. CPL. (star), SJT (on the pair) H.A. PHEASANT. SEA. HIGHRS. 761 Gnr. Greig, G. R.G.A. I have the victory medal to SR-761 GNR. G. GREIG. R.A. 604 Dvr. Myatt, E. R.E. I have the 1914/5 star to 604 SPR. E. MYATT. R.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 16 January , 2023 Share Posted 16 January , 2023 List 27341 pages 2, 6, 9, 10, 13, 16, 18, 19 20, 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 16 January , 2023 Share Posted 16 January , 2023 Thank you, dink999. Another one for me. 604 Spr. Myatt, E. R.E. I have the 1914/5 star named to 604 SPR. E. MYATT. R.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 17 January , 2023 Share Posted 17 January , 2023 List 27808 pages 4, 8, 11, 15, 20, 23, 26, 27 23947 23948 24294 24297 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 17 January , 2023 Share Posted 17 January , 2023 Thank you, dink9999. Two more for me. 627 Spr. Evans W.H. I have the victory medal to 627. SPR. W.H. EVANS, R.E. 488 Spr. Gill C.H. R.E. I nafe the victory medal to 488 SPR. C.H. GILL. R.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 18 January , 2023 Share Posted 18 January , 2023 26283 cont page 11 with amendments to 23465 23980 page 8 with amendments to 20263 cont. & 20271 List 24351 which is an unofficial list of POW's 28757 page ? with amendments to 24513 cont., 24523 & 24524 List 24513 followed by one of those combined lists that contains the same R.H. & R.F.A details from the Woolwich Record Office 29433 cont. page 2 with amendments to 24523 & 25090 24526 24531 24599, 24769, 24770 & 24771 This is page 3 of possibly 24827 - C/496 List 24881 page 3 with amendments to 18716 cont., 18721 & 19094 Another combined list with WO references List 25098 followed by List 28757 with amendments to 25098 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferguson Posted 18 January , 2023 Share Posted 18 January , 2023 On 22/12/2022 at 16:39, brianmorris547 said: Tony From the Times OCL 29/03/1917 under Wounded - Shock (Shell) Royal Irish Fusiliers. Brian Brian brilliant! Many thanks and apologies for the delay in responding- I had missed this! Given he was not discharged until August (over 5 months later), what would have happened to him in the meanwhile? I have looked at Hospital records in the past but not found anything (pribably my incompetence) Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 18 January , 2023 Share Posted 18 January , 2023 2 hours ago, Tony Ferguson said: Brian brilliant! Many thanks and apologies for the delay in responding- I had missed this! Given he was not discharged until August (over 5 months later), what would have happened to him in the meanwhile? I have looked at Hospital records in the past but not found anything (pribably my incompetence) Cheers Tony Without Service or Pension records it's hard to say. Probably like my RE grandfather who was wounded in September 1916 and, like Andrew, discharged under para392 with a Silver War Badge in August 1917. Evacuation route back to UK then hospital, medical boards etc. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David26 Posted 18 January , 2023 Share Posted 18 January , 2023 Dave, Thanks for these. For these Woolwich lists, what I am doing is taking the W.O. number as the Casualty List (e.g. in the top example below from one of the lists you published earlier today, 24928). But I am now also adding in a comment "Continuation sheet. Extracts of Casualty List for RHA and RFA Record Office, Woolwich internal record." For my own purposes I am also noting all of the 115/ numbers so am really puzzled by these entries for 115/5816 and 115/5822 which say "NONE". I am working on the assumption that the 115/ numbers are generated by the RH and RFA Records Office to record their men. Why then would they generate numbers for lists where there weren't any of their men? Very puzzling. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferguson Posted 18 January , 2023 Share Posted 18 January , 2023 53 minutes ago, brianmorris547 said: Tony Without Service or Pension records it's hard to say. Probably like my RE grandfather who was wounded in September 1916 and, like Andrew, discharged under para392 with a Silver War Badge in August 1917. Evacuation route back to UK then hospital, medical boards etc. Brian Brian I have his pension records and medal roll, service number etc- but where should I look to find his journey after his appearance on the Casualty List ? Best gds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 18 January , 2023 Share Posted 18 January , 2023 8 minutes ago, Tony Ferguson said: Brian I have his pension records and medal roll, service number etc- but where should I look to find his journey after his appearance on the Casualty List ? Best gds That's the problem. Without WO 363 or 364 records we can not say. It's the same with my gf. There might have been a report in the local papers. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 19 January , 2023 Share Posted 19 January , 2023 16 hours ago, David26 said: For my own purposes I am also noting all of the 115/ numbers so am really puzzled by these entries for 115/5816 and 115/5822 which say "NONE". I am working on the assumption that the 115/ numbers are generated by the RH and RFA Records Office to record their men. Why then would they generate numbers for lists where there weren't any of their men? Very puzzling. David By our efforts to bring the lists together I think we have learnt quite a lot about how and why they were produced. Then you notice something that confounds use again. As you say "very puzzling". Now for a group of 29433 pages with numerous amendments The first 29433 list will be page 4,5,6,7 or 8 working on the amendment numbers on the other 29433 pages that have been posted and those I'm posting now 29433 pages 9,11,16,17,23 Another Woolwich list, page 10 25102 25197 25214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 19 January , 2023 Share Posted 19 January , 2023 Thank you, dink999. Another one for me. 272 S.M. Winfield, A. 117 Bty. R.F.A. I have the victory medal to 272 W.O.CL.2. A. WINFIELD. R.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 20 January , 2023 Share Posted 20 January , 2023 28757 page 13 with amendments to 25215 cont, 25216 & 25219 25300 25305 25314 25322 Another Woolwich list, page 11 that includes 25509 & 25611-C/492 List 25611-C/492 sheet 2 List 29433 pages 4,6,7 and 9 with numerous amendments 25680 different from id 5109 posted on page 66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 21 January , 2023 Share Posted 21 January , 2023 Another Woolwich Office list 26089 26094 26282 List 26283 cont. page 4 which has amendments to 22882 3 different 26284 lists 26287 List 26289 which is different from the transcriptions done by SteveE on page 4 (id 53) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 21 January , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 January , 2023 H.B. 15944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 22 January , 2023 Share Posted 22 January , 2023 26093 different from id 5306 26487 different from id 89 26804 26806 26824 27081 & 27082 no list number but amendments to 27105 & 27108 27109 cont. page 2 27112 27115 page 2 27328 different from id 174 27329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 23 January , 2023 Share Posted 23 January , 2023 27378 27591 27593 27787 different from id 5238 2 different 27799 lists 27800 27801 27906 28267 All on one page, 28446 (amendments) 28724 & 29102 28707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 23 January , 2023 Share Posted 23 January , 2023 Thank you, dink999. Another one for me. 802 Pte. Stout, M. 3rd Rifle Bde. I have the BWM and 1914/5 star to Z-802 PTE. M. STOUT. RIF. BRIG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 23 January , 2023 Share Posted 23 January , 2023 I'd be most grateful for any casualty information on 8404 Cpl (possibly Sgt) Percy William Thomas Stump, 2/Royal Irish Regiment. Enlisted 01 Sep 14, to France 19 Jul 15, wounded (GSW back and right arm - date NK), discharged 01 Jul 17 (DAH). Date of wounding and subsequent treatment please. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 23 January , 2023 Share Posted 23 January , 2023 These Casualty Lists are re used papers which appear at random in various Service and Pension Records. The names on them have been indexed by FMP. By searching FMP with name and/or service number you may get a hit if you are lucky. FMP have also indexed the names in the surviving Hospital Admissions Books. There was no trace under 8404 Stump or P Stump I'm afraid. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 23 January , 2023 Share Posted 23 January , 2023 Brian - Thank you, I'm most grateful. No trace on 1917 WO Weekly Casualty Lists or in British Newspaper Archive that I can find. Yet he bore the bullet scars for the rest of his days! I note correspondence on DAH elsewhere on the Forum, but do you have any idea of how long before a discharge for DAH a soldier might have been diagnosed - weeks, months? Do you know the process? It seems that the debate about heart disorders was ongoing in 1917, being compared with VDH. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 23 January , 2023 Author Share Posted 23 January , 2023 H.A. 32405 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 23 January , 2023 Share Posted 23 January , 2023 6 hours ago, Acknown said: I'd be most grateful for any casualty information on 8404 Cpl (possibly Sgt) Percy William Thomas Stump, 2/Royal Irish Regiment. Enlisted 01 Sep 14, to France 19 Jul 15, wounded (GSW back and right arm - date NK), discharged 01 Jul 17 (DAH). Date of wounding and subsequent treatment please. Acknown The SWB Roll just records Sickness and the Medal Rolls record No Longer etc. Where did you get DAH from please. 2 Royal Irish Regt moved to 22 Infantry Brigade of 7 Div in May 1916. The WD of 7 Div HQ GS (WO 95/1631) has Narratives for 22 IB in July and August - September 1916. These record that the Bn had 158 wounded between 01 and 05/07/1916, 208 wounded between 10 and 20/07/1916 and 153 wounded between 23/08 and 08/09/1916. I will have a look through the Times OCLs. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 23 January , 2023 Share Posted 23 January , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, brianmorris547 said: Where did you get DAH from please. His pension card (FOLD3 via WFA): He was certainly shot, but it seems that this was not the cause of his discharge. Thanks for looking him up. Acknown Edited 23 January , 2023 by Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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