dink999 Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 HA 929 different from id 429 on page 24 HA 941 2 different HA 943 lists 2 HA 944 both different from id 423 on page 24 HA 950 HA 966 different from id 489 on page 28 3 HA 970 lists different from id 2199 on page 48 HA 975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Thank you, dink999. Another one for me. L/16 Gnr. Westall, B. R.F.A. I have the victory medal to L-16 SJT. B. WESTALL. R.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 7 February , 2023 Share Posted 7 February , 2023 Re HA 943 above showing Royal Engineers. I found this doc in 2016 but for some reason I must not have posted it which seems strange. I remember it because two County Palatine RE men are named on it, 81789 Walter Hodgkinson and 99767 Robert Westwell (correct spelling). My notes on Robert show that he has no 1914-15 Star, like my CPRE gf, and that he is named on HA 943 and HA 944. I posted HA 944 on p 24. I have HA 943 and HA 944 on my computer. Robert has papers in WO 363. His AF B 103 shows wounded, shock, 10/07/1916. He is named in the Times OCL 21/08/1916 under Wounded (Shock Shell) RE. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 8 February , 2023 Share Posted 8 February , 2023 2 HA 947 lists both different from id 589 on page 33 HA 1009 different from id 2450 on page 48 The service record of 12956 Pte. F Jacobs show this list number to be HA 1064 dated 16 July 1916 HA 1143 different from id 2539 on page 49 HA 1144 different from id 386 on page 22 Amendments to HA 1182,HA 1897 & HA 2077 HA 1154 HA 1158 HA 1163 different from id nos. 407 & 5316 HA 1169 HA 1172 different from id nos. 499 & 2893 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 9 February , 2023 Share Posted 9 February , 2023 HA 1186 different from id 508 on page 29 2 HA 1188 lists both different from id 408 on page 23 HA 1193 HA 1195 2 HA 1202 lists different from id 3563 on page 54 2 HA 1204 lists HA 1220 page 2 HA 1252 Amendments to HA 1289 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 9 February , 2023 Share Posted 9 February , 2023 Thank you, dink999. Two more for me. 187 Dvr. Cone, R.F. A.S.C. I have the BWM to CHT-187 DVR. R. CONE. A.S.C. and 878 Pte. Wilson, J. R.A.M.C. I have the BWM to 878 PTE. J. WILSON. R.A.M.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 9 February , 2023 Share Posted 9 February , 2023 (edited) Been away from this thread for absolutely ages, and I realise its focus has evolved somewhat! But in case researchers happen across this... HA 1188 2519 Gnr Harry Herod, 136 Heavy Battery RGA has some surviving service records on FMP. He was a pork butcher from Bury, Lancs., and survived the war. He was renumbered 293520. 24810 Gnr Joseph Lythgoe, X 30 TMB, also has some surviving papers on FMP. He was a salesman from Rusholme, Manchester, and survived the war. His number originally had an L- prefix, which I believe denoted "locally raised"; his papers showed he went to some lengths to volunteer for the 149th (County Palatine) Bde RFA, a Pals-type unit (raised I think in Manchester - certainly in Lancashire). Other 149th Bde men ended up in 30th Division's Trench Mortars - X 30 = X Battery of 30th Division's TMs - too (see e.g. this old thread). 36345 Gnr James E Hawkins (X 30 TM) and 39242 Bdr Claude Dicksee (Z 30 TM) are also named on List HA 1203. According to a medical record available on FMP, Dicksee served in Campion's Battery (443rd Battery RFA) in Russia in 1919, and was wounded, subsequently losing a leg to gangrene; "LIves of the First World War" (also via FMP) has a photo and other details. Edited 9 February , 2023 by Pat Atkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 9 February , 2023 Share Posted 9 February , 2023 (edited) EDIT: Did not see that Dink had posted HA 1188 above. I did post HA 1203 on pages 28 and 59. Brian Edited 9 February , 2023 by brianmorris547 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 9 February , 2023 Share Posted 9 February , 2023 I hadn't noticed HA 1203 - apologies, Brian. To be honest I've avoided this thread for ages as it's such a rabbit hole for me, but just popped in to see how things were on the current last page... an now, hour later... It's like being an ex-smoker and thinking, "I'll just have the one drag, then definitely no more." Anyway, kudos to all and keep up the good work, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantwo Posted 10 February , 2023 Share Posted 10 February , 2023 (edited) H7387 (Corrected number please see @David26 and @brianmorris547 below) Alan Edited 10 February , 2023 by alantwo Sheet number corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David26 Posted 10 February , 2023 Share Posted 10 February , 2023 Thank you Alan, I thought I recognised 'Dangan' (actually Thomas Dargan) and think this list may be H.7387, which was posted on p30 at id 533? David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 10 February , 2023 Share Posted 10 February , 2023 Yes it is. I posted H 7387 and H 7388 on p 30. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 10 February , 2023 Share Posted 10 February , 2023 (edited) HA 1301 An extract of HA 1307 HA 1325 HA 1450 but with missing service numbers HA 1531 different from id 975 on page 43 HA 1534 HA 1727 HA 1739 HW 1767 (this list does have a HA 1767 number but is an error, HW is the correct suffix) HA 1891 3 different HA 2104 lists HA 2128 different from id 3710 on page 55 HA 2461 HA 2479 different from id 1136 on page 43 Edited 11 February , 2023 by dink999 Renamed list number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 10 February , 2023 Share Posted 10 February , 2023 Thank you, dink999. Another one for me. 437 Pte. Jay, G. 12-Lancers. I have the victory medal to L-437 PTE. G.W. JAY. 12-LRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 11 February , 2023 Share Posted 11 February , 2023 HA 2493 without service numbers HA2522 HA 2538 4 HA 2545 lists HA 2600 HA 2765 HA 2850 different from id 3955 on page 56 HA 2872 HA 2908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David26 Posted 11 February , 2023 Share Posted 11 February , 2023 Thanks Dave, gosh that was a lot of gas casualties for 1/8 Worcesters in those H.A.2545 lists. You can see that the last of those four lists you published is in effect p1 and two of the others are p3 and p8. And p8 is in alphabetical order and finishes with Pte Haidon. With 40 names per sheet that is an awful lot of men who were gassed. Incidentally, the list you published as H.A.1767 yesterday does have that number on it, but it also has H.W.1767 which, given the casualty dates and the rubric at the top of the sheet is, I think, the correct number. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 11 February , 2023 Share Posted 11 February , 2023 30 minutes ago, David26 said: gosh that was a lot of gas casualties for 1/8 Worcesters in those H.A.2545 lists. You can see that the last of those four lists you published is in effect p1 and two of the others are p3 and p8. And p8 is in alphabetical order and finishes with Pte Haidon. With 40 names per sheet that is an awful lot of men who were gassed. Incidentally, the list you published as H.A.1767 yesterday does have that number on it, but it also has H.W.1767 which, given the casualty dates and the rubric at the top of the sheet is, I think, the correct number. Yes a lot of gas casualties, there might be an interesting story behind them. I have amended HA 1767 to read HW 1767 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 12 February , 2023 Share Posted 12 February , 2023 HA 2925 HA 2992 cont pages 3, 4, 5 & 6 2 HA 3088 lists 2 HA 3098 lists HA 3107 HA 3123 This is list HA 3177 thanks to the records of 5939 Pte Kenny, 1st Irish Guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 12 February , 2023 Share Posted 12 February , 2023 (edited) Re HA 2992 (Contd) p 5. 2129 Dvr W Warbrick. 3 East Lancs Bde RFA. 2129 William Warbrick enlisted into the Bolton Artillery Reserve Brigades on 26/05/1915. His MRIC shows no 1914-15 Star so he did not make Gallipoli. He must gone to Egypt in 1916. He was named in the Bolton Evening News and also the weekly Bolton Journal Rally to the Flag on enlisting (See attached). The BEN 01/11/1916 reported his death and pictured him. Fitter Wm Warbrick had died in hodspital in Port Said on 09/10/1916. He had been kicked by a horse. He had enlisted in May 1915 and his wife and five children lived at 69 Matthew St. Edited 13 February , 2023 by brianmorris547 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dink999 Posted 13 February , 2023 Share Posted 13 February , 2023 HA 3267 This image is a combination of 2 damaged HA 3293 lists HA 3297 HA3376 HA 3500 HA 3568 HA 3571 HA 3629 different from id 3995 on page 56 HA 3651 different from id 2442 on page 48 HA 3659 HA 3724 HA 3834 HA 3973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 13 February , 2023 Share Posted 13 February , 2023 HA 1307 fragment L/15944 Pte Stanley John Wright was discharged on 18.10.1917 as no longer fit for service (KR para 392 xvi). The medal rolls show service with 4th and 12th RF (doesn't mention 6th Bn, which was a reserve unit); his 1914-15 Star entry is to 4th Bn, and his SWB record shows this was the battalion he was discharged from. The L-prefix to his number shows he was a Regular soldier, and the SWB records state he enlisted on 29.01.1914. He was 21 on discharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 13 February , 2023 Share Posted 13 February , 2023 (edited) On 11/02/2023 at 15:53, dink999 said: Yes a lot of gas casualties, there might be an interesting story behind them. I have amended HA 1767 to read HW 1767 Dave 1/8 Bn Worcesters war diary notes this: 14 September Authuille: 'Whilst training was carried out in musketry (many natural ranges being at close at hand) , open warfare and bayonet fighting, 1 Office and 423 OR wounded (gas) were evacuated to No 5 Convalscent Camp." This was not the first time they had had such casualties. On the night of 19/20 July 1916 whilst trench digging near Ovillers, they suffered 113 gas casualties with more collapsing about 48 hours later whilst at a rest camp. The delayed action effect was almost certainly caused by phosgene which the men were not familiar with and were slow getting their gas masks on. My grandfather was amongst this bunch of casualties. Unfortunately, when the this part of the diary was digitised, the relevant page was missed. Fortunately I already had notes from the diary. TR Edited 13 February , 2023 by Terry_Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 13 February , 2023 Share Posted 13 February , 2023 Terry, can I ask you a question about digitised WDs (I'm not very knowledgeable about the archiving process, etc.)? The pages for most of May 1915 are missing from the 2nd Royal Fusiliers WD and the period includes a relative's death: in your experience is it likely this, too, was an omission during digitisation? In which case, I'll have to get to Kew when I'm back in the UK sometime. I appreciate they might simply have been lost, but it would be nice to think they were recoverable. Cheers, Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 13 February , 2023 Share Posted 13 February , 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Pat Atkins said: Terry, can I ask you a question about digitised WDs (I'm not very knowledgeable about the archiving process, etc.)? The pages for most of May 1915 are missing from the 2nd Royal Fusiliers WD and the period includes a relative's death: in your experience is it likely this, too, was an omission during digitisation? In which case, I'll have to get to Kew when I'm back in the UK sometime. I appreciate they might simply have been lost, but it would be nice to think they were recoverable. Cheers, Pat Pat I suspect that with that amount of pages they were probably missing from the diary before they ever reached TNA. (Public Record Office as it was). It wouldn't do any harm to ask though. TR Edited 13 February , 2023 by Terry_Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 13 February , 2023 Share Posted 13 February , 2023 Thanks, Terry, that's very helpful. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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