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Hi,

I Have a thread below on cap badges in a picture. The man on the left is Robert Meirion Roberts, I have it that he served with the 23rd Londons in France Salonika and Pallestine. Maybe you could have a look at the picture and tell me if the cap badge fits.

Thanks

Dave Roberts

Dave,

Found the picture and it certainly looks like a 23rd London badge. Great photo.

5542/702318 Pte. Robert Meirion Roberts would have been in 2/23rd all his time overseas, although judging by the men with service numbers around his- and his place of origin- the likelihood is that he originally enlisted into the R.A.M.C. and was transferred to the 2/23rd prior to their going overseas. (The 60th Division received a considerable number of RAMC transferees to use as infantrymen).

Could you please pm me his brothers' service details for my records and anything else you can share about Robert?

Hope this helps,

Matthew

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Peter Beckett

Hi Mathew,

many thanks for your offer and look forward to seeing what you find

Peter

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Matthew,

I also have pictures of:-

Private William Lelsie Gilbert (30/9/15)

2nd Lt. John Henry Sneyd Carew Hunt (16/9/16)

Lieut. Keith Eric Wood (27/5/15)

If you are interested.

Seebold e-mailed to you.

Andy

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Peter,

Mixed news I'm afraid. I think George Murkin was with 2/23rd London.

He had originally been 4986 9th London and joined the 2/23rd with a batch of 20 other 9th Londons some time post 1917 (can't be more precise at this time.)

Unfortunately I don't have the 2/23rd Diary at present but the battalion history indicates that on the 29th Sept the battalion moved into camp near Lindenhoek cross-roads. On the night of the 28th the Germans had retired from Messines Ridge and early on the 30th the 2/23rd moved over the Ridge in "vile" weather to the neighbourhood of Houthem where it spent the night in a vacated German camp. On the following day it took over the line opposite Comines.

It was subjected to considerable shelling and on the night of 2nd Oct a 5.9" shell hit battalion HQ, causing several casualties. On the 5th they went into brigade reserve at Houthem. So either he was caught up in the shell that hit HQ or there was more shelling on the 3rd which he fell victim to.

Hope this helps,

Matthew

Andy,

I've emailed you.

Thanks,

Matthew

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Peter Beckett

Matthew,

thats the best mixed news I have just read. Fantastic! I will now plot on the maps and hope that I can still get a copy of the Diaries.

Thanks very much

Peter

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Matthew,

As per your request, I have gone through the Rifle Brigade Territorial rolls and there are a fair few 23rd London men. I will place them here for you as it will be easier to track:-

STANNETT, Alfred

23rd Londons, 4515, Theatre 1a 27/1015 to 1/2/16

21st Rifle Brigade, 207202, 4b 12/1/17 to 18/9/18 India

CRIBB, Herbert Arthur

23rd Londons, 4005, 1a 10/10/15 to 21/10/15

22nd Rifle Brigade, 207780, 2a 8/3/17 to 11/11/18

JOHNS, Arthur Ernest

23rd Londons, 4003, 1a 10/10/15 to 26/10/15

19th Rifle Brigade, 207794, 4b 7/1/17 to 11/11/18

CAMERON, Stephen Henry (Sgt)

23rd Londons, 2110, 1a 15/3/15 to 26/5/15

SUTTON, Thomas (Sgt)

2nd Leicesters, 6171, 1a 10/11/14 to 25/9/15

4th Northamptons 23201 4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons , 705061, 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211077, 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

OSBORNE, Frederick (Cpl)

4th Northamptons, 230 , 2b 15/8/15 to 9/1/16

4a 12/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705063, 2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211079, 2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

More to come

Andy

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continuing

SMITH, George Albert (Rfn)

4th Northamptons, 2535

2b 15/8/15 to 22/8/15

4a 22/8/15 to 21/10/15

2b 25/10/15 to 12/12/15

4a 18/12/15 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705064

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211080

2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

SARGEANT, Leonard (Rfn)

4th Northamptons, 2856

2b 15/8/15 to 25/9/15

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705065

2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211081

2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18

ROCHESTER, William (Cpl)

4th Northamptons, 1971

2b 15/8/15 to 24/8/15

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705067.

2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211083

2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18

HALL, Ernest Harry (Cpl)

4th Northamptons, 1798

Malta

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 24/11/16

23rd Londons, 705068.

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211084.

2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18.

HIGHAM, Harry (A/Cpl)

4th Northamptons, 4017.

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/6/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705069.

2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211085.

2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18.

More to come.

Andy

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continuing

BANCUTT, Lionel (L/Cpl)

4th Northamptons, 4006

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 13/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705070

2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211086

2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

HOLLOWELL, Albert (Rfn)

4th Northamptons, 4380

4a 13/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 4/6/17

23rd Londons, 705071

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211087

2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

SARGEANT, Howard (Rfn)

4th Northamptons, 4039

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705073

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211089

2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

CLARKE, Owen (Rfn)

4th Northamptons, 4014

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705074

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211090

2a 5/6/17 to 22/7/18

STEVENS, Tohn William (L/Cpl)

4th Northamptons, 4200

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705075

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211091

2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

More to come

Andy

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continuing

JACKSON, William Thomas

4th Northamptons, 4285

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705076

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211092

2a 5/6/17 to 11/11/18

HOLMES, Christopher (Rfn)

4th Northamptons, 4381

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

2a 21/7/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705077

2a 13/4/17 to 4/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211093

2a 5/6/17 to 26/10/18

FISHER, Alfred (Rfn)

4th Northamptons, 1911

2b 15/8/15 to 24/8/15

4a 31/1/16 to 18/3/16

4b 19/3/16 to 16/7/16

Malta 9/10/16 to 18/12/16

2a 21/12/16 to 12/4/17

23rd Londons, 705078

2a 13/4/17 to 5/6/17

22nd Rifle Brigade, 211094

2a 6/6/17 to 11/11/18

TILLERAY, George Alexander (Rfn)

23rd Londons, 5675

1a 16/6/16 to 18/9/16

25th Rifle Brigade, 211479

1a 14/5/18 to 11/11/18 attd Base Depot

SELBY, Joseph

23rd Londons, 3475

1a 18/8/15 to 25/9/15

became Rifle Brigade, 211514

More to come

Andy

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continuing

MURPHY, Francis James

23rd Londons, 2291 (A/L-Cpl)

1a 15/3/15 to 26/6/15

became Rifle Brigade 211522

STENNING, Thomas Benjamin

23rd Londons, 1587

1a 15/3/15 to 24/1/17

became Rifle Brigade 211620

GOBMAN, Richard (Rfn)

23rd Londons, 3865 & 701214

1a 23/3/16 to 24/9/16

1a 13/12/16 to 7/4/17

4b 29/7/17 to 21/10/16

21st Rifle Brigade, 212149

4b 22/10/17 to 18/9/18

India 1/10/18 to 7/11/19

BOWMAN, Richard

23rd Londons, 4423

1A 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 15/6/17

4b 18/6/17 to 21/10/17

21st Rifle Brigade, 212150

4b 22/10/17 to 25/4/18

McDOWALL, Joseph William

23rd Londons, 3979

1a 5/7/16 to 20/9/16

21st Londons, 701269

2a 30/3/17 to 17/6/17

4b 19/6/17 to 21/1/18

21st Rifle Brigade, 212175

4b 22/1/18 to 1/1/19

India 13/1/19 to 7/11/19

More to come

Andy

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POULTER, Alfred

23rd Londons, 3153

1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 14/6/17

4b 18/6/17 to 21/1/18

21st Rifle Brigade, 212201

4b 22/1/18 to 18/9/18

India 1/10/18 to 13/3/19

SMITH, Henry

23rd Londons, 3646

1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 14/6/17

4b 18/6/17 to 6/2/18

19th Rifle Brigade, 212205

4b 7/2/18 to 11/11/18

WILDE, Charles Frederick

23rd Londons, 4696

1a 26/6/16 to 22/11/16

2a 30/11/16 to 17/8/17

4b 19/6/17 to 5/3/18

20th Rifle Brigade

4b 5/3/18 to 11/11/18

ROGERS, William John

23rd Londons, 1903

1a 26/6/16 to 2/12/16

2a 8/12/16 to 18/6/17

4b 20/6/17 to 13/3/18

20th Rifle Brigade, 212224

4b 14/3/18 to 11/11/18

HERMANS, Gerald

23rd Londons, 5588

1a 26/6/16 to 1/12/16

2a 7/12/16 to 15/6/17

4b 20/6/17 to 20/1/18

21st Rifle Brigade, 212575

4b 21/1/18 to 22/9/18

India 7/10/18 to 12/5/19

More to come

Andy

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continuing

WOODSTOCK, William Charles

23rd Londons, 6034

1a 6/11/15 to 3/12/15

2a 14/12/16 to 20/2/18

4b 26/2/18 to 22/8/18

21st Rifle Brigade, 212618

4b 23/3/18 to 18/9/18

India 1/10/18 to 5/12/19

BLENKINS, Henry John

23rd Londons, 3365

1a 26/6/16 to 11/12/16

2a 17/12/16 to 21/6/17

4b 25/6/17 to 6/8/18

20th Rifle Brigade, 212857

4b 7/8/18 to 11/11/18

SALTER, John Stanley Maurice

23rd Londons, 5882

1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 20/2/18

4b 26/2/18 to 7/8/18

20th Rifle Brigade, 212877

4b 8/8/18 to 31/10/18

PELHAM, Frederick Charles

23rd Londons, 3104

1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 7/3/17

18th Londons, 594635

2a 8/3/17 to 10/6/17

4b 12/6/17 to 15/8/18

19th Rifle Brigade, 212883

4b 16/8/18 to 31/10/18

McAULIFFE, Patrick Thomas

23rd Londoms, 1937

1a 15/3/15 to 28/5/15

21st Londons, 700279

2a 30/3/17 to 18/6/17

4b 22/6/17 to 3/6/18

13th Londons, 493569

4b 4/6/18 to 18/8/18

21st Rifle Brigade, 212896

4b 22/8/28 to 18/9/18

More to come

Andy

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Matthew,

More of these to come, also an officer that was att'd to the 8th Rifle Brigade from the 23rd Londons but was injured in November 1917 has come up. A Captain William Arthur Solven, also spent some time in the labour corps and commanded the 181 Chinese Labour Corps. Let me know if you would like a copy of his record.

Andy

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Matthew,

A few more for you:

RODWELL, Arthur Leslie.

23rd Londons, 5891.

1a 26/6/16 to 3/2/16

2a 14/12/16 to 15/6/17

4b 18/6/17 to 30/8/18

19th Rifle Brigade, 212907

4b 31/8/18 to 11/11/18

ENTWISTLE, John

23rd Londons, 5531

1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 17/6/17

4b 19/6/17 to 20/2/18

20th Rifle Brigade, 213039

4b 21/2/18 to 11/11/18

KELF, George

23rd Londons, 703031

2a 1/2/17 to 16/6/17

4b 19/6/17 to 5/3/18

20th Rifle Brigade, 213056

4b 6/3/18 to 11/11/18

PUTLAND, Henry

23rd Londons, 4995

1a 15/7/16 to 30 8 16

att'd 21st Londons, 701884

2a 30/3/17 to 18/6/17

4b 22/6/17 to 23/7/18

19th Rifle Brigade, 213267

4b 24/7/18 to 11/11/18

More to come

Andy

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continuing,

BRADLEY, Walter

23rd Londons, 5525.

1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 17/6/17

4b 19/6/17 to 31/7/18

19th Rifle Brigade, 213298

4b 1/8/18 to 11/11/18

ELGOOD, William

23rd Londons, 3629 & 701089

1a 26/6/16 to 19/10/16

1a 20/5/17 to 7/4/18

became Rifle Brigade, 213114

NEWTON, Robert James

23rd Londons, 1547

1a 15/3/15 to 29/9/15

1a 3/2/16 to 25/5/16

became Rifle Brigade 213600

PENFOLD, Reuben

23rd Londons, 3639 & 701095

1a 26/6/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 16/6/17

4b 19/6/17 to 2/2/18

20th Rifle Brigade, 203168.

4b 3/2/18 to 20/6/19

Andy

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Matthew,

The last one from The Rifle Brigade Territorial BWM/VM Rolls

STEVENS, Joseph John

10th Londons 3154, attd 23rd Londons 7602 & 703644

1A 13/7/16 TO 8/9/16

23rd Londons

1a 9/9/16 to 3/12/16

2a 14/12/16 to 15/6/17

4b 18/6/17 to 20/2/18

20th Rifle Brigade, 203177

4b 21/2/18 to 31/8/18

Will have a check through the territorial 1914-15 Star Rolls for you this weekend.

Andy

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Andy,

What can I say. Thank you very much for copying these out.

It's greatly appreciated. Those will keep me busy this weekend.

Best regards,

Matthew

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Matthew,

Glad that they are of use. Will keep my eyes out in the other rolls for you but remembered there were a fair few of them in the Territorial Rolls.

Andy

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Matthew,

Here are the entries in the Rifle Brigade Territorial 1914-15 Star Rolls (WO329/2824)

JOHNS, A.E.

23rd Londons, 4003

(1) 10/10/15

became 207794, Rifle Brigade

McAULIFFE, P.P.

23rd Londons, 1937

(1) 15/3/15

21st Rifle Brigade, 212896

STANNETT, A.

23rd Londons, 4515

(1) 28/10/15

21st Rifle Brigade, 207202

CAMERON, S.H.

23rd Londons, 2110

(1) 15/3/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 208168.

More to come

Andy

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Listed is the man you were interested in, Sergeant Cameron who went into the 25th Rifle Brigade. This was a reserve garrison battalion and was based in Falmouth, U.K.

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continuing:-

CRIBBS, H.A.

23rd Londons, 4005

(1) 10/10/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 207780

CRUCIFIX, R.

23rd Londons, 2277

(1) 15/3/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 207068

Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R., 7/3/17

ELGOOD, W.

23rd Londons, 3629

(1) 26/5/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 213414

HOPKINS, W.D.

23rd Londons, 2445

(1) 15/3/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 212675

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last lot from the 14-15 star roll Matt

MURPHY, P.J.

23rd Londons, 2291

(1) 15/3/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 211522

Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R. 18/10/18

NEWTON, R.J.

23rd Londons, 1547

(1) 15/3/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 213600

SELBY, J.

23rd Londons, 804111

(1) 18/8/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 211514

Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R. 13/6/18

STENNING, T.B.

23rd Londons, 700131

(1) 18/3/15

25th Rifle Brigade, 211620

Discharged P.392 (xvi) K.R. 19/12/17

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Cameron BWM/VM Roll for you Matt

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Thanks very much Andy. It's greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Matthew

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Matt,

Captain Solven's record all sent, have fun with it.

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