The Inspector Posted 9 June , 2022 Share Posted 9 June , 2022 (edited) On 07/06/2022 at 17:07, Matlock1418 said: Tricky to match to a date as CWGC don't release dates against 'Unknowns'. However seems to have had a name [unlike a corpse washed ashore from a sunken ship] but couldn't see an army widow's pension card at WFA/Fold3 for Philip / Phillip BAKER However, Ancestry do have some pension records under both Philip and Phillip BAKER [unfortunately I can't access to check - here's hoping someone else can look for a widow's name and addrress for you] M Hi Tom and all, There are a number of Philip Baker Pension records on Ancestry. However have been looking for some possible family details to search from that angle. From the marriage cert. posted there is a definite link between the Baker and Berman families on the 1911 Ireland census at Oakfield Place, the address for Fanny on the cert. The address on the census is No.5 not 8 as on the cert. It shows Fanny's father Abraham, a draper born 1851 in Russia, religion, Hebrew Jew. with his wife Rachel born 1852, Russia. Their 2 yrs old grand daughter Mabel Baker is living with them, born 1909 Dublin. A number of Baker families come up as having been born in Russia which would fit for the marriage, name change ??? Searching. Rachel Freda Berman died 1922 Dublin South, (2, 432) aged 73 yrs., Abraham died Dec. 1919 Dublin South according to a tree on Ancestry https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/181459741/person/172365525106/facts but no details for Philip Baker ... yet Regards Barry Edited 9 June , 2022 by The Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 9 June , 2022 Share Posted 9 June , 2022 Excellent, thank you Barry. Great finds indeed. Can it all be tied together to make a case please?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 June , 2022 Share Posted 19 June , 2022 Another to consider. McNeil Henry Assistant Stewart Royal Naval Reserve 01/09/1918 Died at sea near the Tuskar from shock due to immersion in the sea owing to enemy action Tower Hill Memorial Serial No: Unit: S.S. "Mesaba." Age: 46 Born: Glasgow Enlisted: Next of Kin: Son of the late Constantine and Annie McNeil; husband of the late Johanna McNeil. Born at Glasgow. Grave or Memorial: Notes: This mans death certificate is on the same sheet as Chief Officer William Stanmore Glover. He is listed just under him which shows there was a body and inquest from information received from J J Roche, J.P. for South Wexford. Inquest held 03/09/1918. Chief Officer Glover is buried in Kilscoran Church of Ireland Cemetery, County Wexford. Henry is listed as having no known grave and remembered on the Tower Hill Memorial. He may actually be buried in the area of Kilscoran and his body was found at the same time as Glover. McNeill-death certificate, McNeil-C.W.G.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 June , 2022 Share Posted 19 June , 2022 More. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/15240958/henry-mcneil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 19 June , 2022 Share Posted 19 June , 2022 (edited) Perhaps one of the "two unknown men" referred to here? Edited 19 June , 2022 by PaulC78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 19 June , 2022 Share Posted 19 June , 2022 Oooohh Paul that is good. https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/663323/george-geddes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 20 June , 2022 Share Posted 20 June , 2022 Two more, this time from the Steamship Dundalk, both on the Tower hill Memorial. https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/3060723/patrick-melia/ https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/3033107/daniel-stowell/ Melia's wife. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Louth/Dundalk_Urban_No__4_/Quay_Street/1562240/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 20 June , 2022 Share Posted 20 June , 2022 Long article on the sinking here. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000434%2f19181022%2f058&stringtohighlight=patrick melia dundalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 20 June , 2022 Share Posted 20 June , 2022 Interesting. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109835331/daniel-stowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 June , 2022 Share Posted 23 June , 2022 Another body. https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2973145/henry-parkinson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 23 June , 2022 Author Share Posted 23 June , 2022 SS "Cyrene" was torpedoed/sunk 5 April 1918 in Caernavon Bay, Irish Sea. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 23 June , 2022 Share Posted 23 June , 2022 On the ball, thank you Matlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 23 June , 2022 Share Posted 23 June , 2022 "Believed to be" may not be conclusive enough for the CWGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 24 June , 2022 Share Posted 24 June , 2022 Pretty much Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 24 June , 2022 Share Posted 24 June , 2022 Another body, dates differ though, and this sailor died in hospital. https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/3032172/matthew-robinson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 24 June , 2022 Share Posted 24 June , 2022 Already being dealt with, grave found at Crosby. There's a detailed account of his rescue on FMP: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000283%2f19181002%2f056&stringtohighlight=matthew robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 24 June , 2022 Share Posted 24 June , 2022 Good man Paul, thank you kindly. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 8 August , 2022 Share Posted 8 August , 2022 On 03/06/2022 at 18:26, PaulC78 said: Buried at West Derby Cemetery on 6 Feb 1917. I'll have a look for him next time I'm there, one would hope that the damaged headstone has been replaced by now. Was at West Derby this morning, William Hagan has a new headstone: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 15 August , 2022 Share Posted 15 August , 2022 (edited) On 03/06/2022 at 17:41, Matlock1418 said: Matthew HOPKINS, SS Karina CWGC seem to have his mother' address and parents' names: Son of Mary Jane Hopkins (nee Broughton), of 12, Doddridge St., Liverpool, and the late Matthew Hopkins. If only someone could now find his burial = I suppose his burial could perhaps have ended up being in Liverpool. ?? M Burial record from Anfield Cemetery now obtained and details sent to CWGC via IFCP. Grave reference is CE.17.4356, it's an unmarked grave approximately in the centre of this photo. Edited 16 August , 2022 by PaulC78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 27 August , 2022 Author Share Posted 27 August , 2022 On 08/08/2022 at 18:30, PaulC78 said: Was at West Derby this morning, William Hagan has a new headstone: On 15/08/2022 at 20:03, PaulC78 said: Burial record from Anfield Cemetery now obtained and details sent to CWGC via IFCP. Grave reference is CE.17.4356, it's an unmarked grave approximately in the centre of this photo. Thanks for your recent posts M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 6 October , 2022 Share Posted 6 October , 2022 Another, they had a body, where is it? https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/3032172/matthew-robinson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 6 October , 2022 Share Posted 6 October , 2022 And. https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/3032306/patrick-rourke/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 6 October , 2022 Share Posted 6 October , 2022 Harden is in Ballinakilla Cemetery, Lewis I cannot find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC78 Posted 6 October , 2022 Share Posted 6 October , 2022 Robinson was dealt with above. Did you post the wrong image in your second post? The DC for R Lewis doesn't have any obvious connection to the CWGC record for Patrick Rourke. Struggling to find anything for Lewis. Pte R Lewis 200517 Somerset Light Infantry died on that date but at Basra: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/634220/r-lewis/ Gunner R G Lewis 3688 Royal Field Artillery (436532 Labour Corps) died on 2 Nov 1918 from influenza & pneumonia and is buried at Brockley Cemetery in London, but he appears to have died at Torquay: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/384703/r-g-lewis/ You might get more eyes on him in your other topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 6 October , 2022 Share Posted 6 October , 2022 Thank you Paul. I posted the DC because it shows that Harden is in the CWGC and Lewis is not as far as I can see. I posted it here as it is very a specific topic 'BURIALS of 'UNKNOWN' in the REPUBLIC OF IRELAND' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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