Soldiers pictured in the Cheltenham Chronicle & Gloucester Graphic

[Old Owl]

14 minutes ago, dink999 said:

Robert,

There are some named/unnamed officers groups which I have indexed and neither Irvine or Burnaby at featured. However a picture of Burnaby on his own is in the 18 Sept. 1915 edition.

Hope it’s of interest

Dave

Many thanks for this Dave--this is a really excellent image!

Do you have any ideas at all as to where a named group of the 6th Bn officers may appear or be held?

Many thanks again,

Best, Robert

 

[dink999]

13 hours ago, Old Owl said:

Do you have any ideas at all as to where a named group of the 6th Bn officers may appear or be held?

Many thanks again,

Best, Robert

 

The groups of officers pictured in The Graphic are from the 3/6th Gloucesters, are they of any interest?

Dave

[Old Owl]

11 hours ago, dink999 said:

The groups of officers pictured in The Graphic are from the 3/6th Gloucesters, are they of any interest?

Dave

Hi Dave,

Sadly not, as I am keen to find a confirmed image of Paget George Irvine 1/6th Bn Gloucestershire Regt,

An image, which is noted as being of him, can be found via an internet/google search, but this is not him but instead an image of an Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders officer.

Many thanks again for your assistance with Captain Burnaby,

Best, Robert

[dink999]

It looks like a photo of Paget George Irvine did exist but was not published in any newspapers. 

This extract from the Western Daily Newspaper dated 1 June 1917 explains more:-

Image courtesy of the British Newspaper Archive

 

Dave

[Old Owl]

30 minutes ago, dink999 said:

It looks like a photo of Paget George Irvine did exist but was not published in any newspapers. 

This extract from the Western Daily Newspaper dated 1 June 1917 explains more:-

Image courtesy of the British Newspaper Archive

 

Dave

Many thanks Dave for this information,

I had already come across this a few years ago and actually contacted the church in question in the hope that the portrait still existed--sadly the church hall was sold off many years ago and it seems the portrait may have been lost at or around that time.

Most frustrating!

I really appreciate your efforts but fear that I may never find an image of him in uniform.

Many thanks again,

Best, Robert

[Saratan]

On 21/02/2023 at 23:31, dink999 said:

Hello Saratan,

Thanks for your compliments. The images you mention are attached, unfortunately neither the soldiers or the nurses are named. However I have a Red Cross book from 1919 that should list the staff you were at Dumbleton VAD. I don’t have access to it on my tablet but will post a list of names tomorrow.

 

You could also search for those who worked at Dumbleton by accessing the Rd Cross site  and use the search term Dumbleton which returns 50 names https://vad.redcross.org.uk/search?searchTerm=Dumbleton

Dave

Thank you for the photographs of the nurses and soldiers at Dumbleton and the link to the Red Cross site. I was able to obtain details of the nurses who worked there. I am still trying to put the faces to the names.

One anomaly has arisen in that the site gives the Commandant as Mrs Pyke Nott  (Commandant: May 1915-Nov 1918). However newspaper reports have the commandant as Mary Ackers.  

Mary Ackers is not listed in Dumbleton and not in Cheltenham Hospital – Dumbleton being one of its axillary units..  It is possible that a newspaper reports the name incorrectly but not consistently over many reports.

A name search on the Red Cross website gave 3 possible individuals but none seemed appropriate.

I wonder if the 1919 Red Cross book you mentioned has any information that would explain this apparent anomaly? (or help name the individuals)

once again thanks 

kind regards david

[dink999]

I cannot see Mary Akers listed for Dumbleton or Cheltenham, I'll have a more thorough look through the book over the weekend. Meanwhile here are 3 images that may be of interest.

The first is from the 1916 Glos. Red Cross Book, the other 2 are from the one published in 1919

Dave

 

 

[Saratan]

On 03/03/2023 at 12:36, dink999 said:

I cannot see Mary Akers listed for Dumbleton or Cheltenham, I'll have a more thorough look through the book over the weekend. Meanwhile here are 3 images that may be of interest.

The first is from the 1916 Glos. Red Cross Book, the other 2 are from the one published in 1919

Dave

 

 

Again thanks for the information. Still no Mary Ackers/Akers as commandant. The newspapers reported that the Hospital closed for January & February 1917 and it was only after this time that Commandant Mary wrote the thank you notes   for provisions received.   A newpaper report for 15 Sept 1917 explains that Mrs Pyke Nott had been ill for several weeks and hoped to be back and had given up her post in favour of Mary Akers. 

Mary’s omission like that of the second doctor called Cross may simply be an oversight. On the 1916 list you provided several names are missing from the 1919 one which also includes a name typo error. Whether it will be a help for others or not, please find attached the data for the 50 staff and their duties listed by the Red Cross site. 

 

Additionally from the newspaper reports the following soldiers were convalescent there (dates are given as average time spent in the hospital was 40 days)

Sergt. Baxendale (23 July 1915 – won a black pig in Cheltenham on a day out).

Sergt. F. Goulder Norfolk Reg.; Sergt Bygrave; Corpl Funnel; Gunner Sharp; Pvt Ross; Pvt Mylam (30 July 1915. -All performed at a concert at the Hospital).

Pvt G Carr (27 Nov 1915.  – Won a prize at whist drive with 27 tables)

Would be great if there were any individual photos of them. Given the date of the original photos in October 1915 I wonder if any of those named above were in the image.

 

dumbleton Red Cross Hospital staff.pdf

[dink999]

My index of soldiers pictured in this newspaper between 1914-1919 is still available Here 

However the complete publication of 2155 issues covering 1901-1942 is now available to view for FREE on the Cheltenham Local History Society's website https://cheltlocalhistory.org.uk/database/newspapers/

The images have been uploaded as monthly pdf's which are searchable. A few images may be slightly blurred, probably due the the files being compressed. Where these are found they will be replaced.

It is worth checking out other years editions. For example there are some Boer War soldiers pictured who certainly served in WW1 and in the 1920's soldiers are pictured who died of their wounds but were not commemorated due to their date of death.

Here are a few examples of what is available. The images are from my own collection

 

[JoeBirt]

Because of a search for

my Wife’s Grandfather’s medal history I stumbled across this spreadsheet and found my grandfather.  Thank you. 

Edited 31 March by JoeBirt

[dink999]

Joe, glad it’s been of help. Would be interesting to know his name & other details if you happy to post them 

Dave

[JoeBirt]

It was in the newspaper published 29 Jan 1916

 

Picture on Page 34 entitled

3rd BATTERY GLOUCESTER R.F.A. BRIGADE, 2/1st SOUTH MID. DIV. (RIGHT SEC.).

Second Row A J Birt - awarded the MM later on in 1917