Muerrisch Posted 18 June , 2011 Share Posted 18 June , 2011 No Simon, that was the Colour Sergeants badge of rank on scarlet and KD uniforms (only) until 1915. The Colour-sergeant wears the VF [and the post 1907 TF] SNCO proficiency star above his other badges, as per regulation. The scarlet tunic shows the penultimate design for a Royal Regiment, with the white braid on top of the dark navy blue collar ...... the last design moved it to the heraldically-preferred position below the collar. The colour badge for line infantry other than Rifles itself was a one-piece item as issued, in that the crown and the crossed flags were "a badge" not separate badges. It was issued ONLY for the best garment: that is the 7 button tunic except in India, where "best" was the cooler and looser scarlet 5 button frock. On all other garments, the scarlet Home frock, the SD, KD, greatcoat, and indeed shirts, the issued substitute was the crown alone. It was officially in metal in 1914, but this was widely flouted. Guards and Rifles had unique badges for the scarlet tunic. I suspect that, as ever, the minimalist issue of the crown and flags badge was driven by parsimony. As a footnote, I have a recollection of seeing a colour badge in a regimental museum many years ago where the flags were St George NOT the Union. But which regiment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 June , 2011 Share Posted 18 June , 2011 The Colour-sergeant wears the VF [and the post 1907 TF] SNCO proficiency star above his other badges, as per regulation. The scarlet tunic shows the penultimate design for a Royal Regiment, with the white braid on top of the dark navy blue collar ...... the last design moved it to the heraldically-preferred position below the collar. The colour badge for line infantry other than Rifles itself was a one-piece item as issued, in that the crown and the crossed flags were "a badge" not separate badges. It was issued ONLY for the best garment: that is the 7 button tunic except in India, where "best" was the cooler and looser scarlet 5 button frock. On all other garments, the scarlet Home frock, the SD, KD, greatcoat, and indeed shirts, the issued substitute was the crown alone. It was officially in metal in 1914, but this was widely flouted. Guards and Rifles had unique badges for the scarlet tunic. I suspect that, as ever, the minimalist issue of the crown and flags badge was driven by parsimony. As a footnote, I have a recollection of seeing a colour badge in a regimental museum many years ago where the flags were St George NOT the Union. But which regiment? Interesting stuff Grumpy. I was a little unsure about KD, but mentioned it because red sashes were worn with KD and tropical 'whites' (but not SD until mid 1920s) and I thought I had seen the crossed flags 'pinned' on KD in typical style, but I must have been mistaken and mixed it up with whites, where I think I might well have seen it (in spite of regulations), as both sash and gold on scarlet chevrons were worn according to photographic evidence. As for the crossed St George's flags I can only think it might have been the 5th Fusiliers (NF) who made a regimental feature of St George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFayers Posted 18 June , 2011 Share Posted 18 June , 2011 It's been a while, but here's another family one; my great uncle Edward (Ted) Fayers on his wedding day in Ipswich in October 1918. Ted was a lorry driver in the ASC (Private DM2/155768), though I'm afraid I've never been able to ascertain as to which unit he served with. I purchased a copy of his marriage certificate in order to try and identify his best man, but to no avail - Ted's father-in-law (the chap sitting in the photo) was the witness! All the best Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 19 June , 2011 Share Posted 19 June , 2011 Following on from my post No.2169, many of the same faces in this group of ASC Farrier sergeants. 'Harry' once again bottom front right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted 21 June , 2011 Share Posted 21 June , 2011 Two unknowns 1st Bn Canadian who decided to be photographed the same day in the same studio, somewhere in Belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 8 Posted 21 June , 2011 Share Posted 21 June , 2011 Going with the Backwards Sam Browne thing. Here is a squad of what I take to be MPs wearing the Sam Browne backwards (presumably to support cuffs or a truncheon or...) The officer in the center has his on in the conventional fashion. Chris Today's bit of pointless pedantry - the officer is the only one WEARING Sam Browne; the ORs all have 1903 pattern pistol equipment with a supplementary strap of some sort, sported (one assumes) for sartorial rather than practical reasons; the "correct" side was obviously dictated by unit/sub-unit standing orders. This seems to have been relatively common amongst RPs/MPs judging by some of the period photos I've seen, and was presumably intended to give the wearer a more authoritative appearance. Love this thread - some brilliant stuff. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Old ' Digger ' Over 50,000 views on this thread, a record ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_Featherstone Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 I'm having problems resizing to upload. Grrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 I thought members would like to see images and details of some of the men who served in the 5th Bn. N/Derby during WW1. Some of the images are not great, some are from newspapers, peoples relatives and my own collection. Some have been on before but without their details. I will put a few on and see what everyone thinks, if members would like to see more or if it is rubbish or gets boring just say and I will stop. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Annable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Barton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Wynne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 On the 26th June 1915 the 5th Bn. came under massive bombardment causing heavy casualties, " A " coy had 7 killed all signallers. Here 3 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Thompson, I will leave it that for now to see what you all think. JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 27 June , 2011 Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Slightly closer Steve I think you'll find he may be a adult instructor with the Church Lads Brigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchtrotter Posted 27 June , 2011 Author Share Posted 27 June , 2011 Thanks to all who continue to contribute....50,000 views wow!!!! Highwood lovely image. I have not really searched for images but you have shown an excellant image of the Y&L/Sheffield shoulder title and thanks for that! TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphed Posted 28 June , 2011 Share Posted 28 June , 2011 Thanks to all who continue to contribute....50,000 views wow!!!! Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATNOMIS Posted 28 June , 2011 Share Posted 28 June , 2011 Thank you; it is certainly one of the clearest Y&L/Sheffield shoulder titles that I have seen in a photograph. High wood i noticed a spot of colour? If so what soft ware did you use? From what we can see really bring the picture alive. Simon Here's to the next 50,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 4 July , 2011 Share Posted 4 July , 2011 What an image this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 4 July , 2011 Share Posted 4 July , 2011 Scots Guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted 4 July , 2011 Share Posted 4 July , 2011 Scots Guards Typical Guardsman - even manages to make the "economy" cap look smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7t2ndswinger Posted 4 July , 2011 Share Posted 4 July , 2011 What an image this is. It certainly would have come in handy on the M25 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 6 July , 2011 Share Posted 6 July , 2011 Gunner 725681 Robert Crowest Griffiths, RFA kia 3.9.1918 age 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TParker96 Posted 6 July , 2011 Share Posted 6 July , 2011 Hi, Postcard with a photo of my relative James Arthur Gardiner (top left), he was a Rifleman in the 18th Battalion King's Royal Rifle Corps but was killed in action on 14th June 1917. I think he is with some of his friends, most likely before they all went off to war which would have made this about 1916. Sorry about the size but it was the biggest i could get it and still upload it. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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