morrisc8 Posted 11 December , 2023 Share Posted 11 December , 2023 (edited) Paris 1916 from my collection. Gordon Highlanders ? Edited 11 December , 2023 by morrisc8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 11 December , 2023 Share Posted 11 December , 2023 Just now, morrisc8 said: Paris 1916 from my collection. I cant help on any info but i just wanted to say Wow! Amazing photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 11 December , 2023 Share Posted 11 December , 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, morrisc8 said: Paris 1916 from my collection. Gordon Highlanders. A good example of respirator cases being worn in the traditional position of a sporran. In the example shown below a standard jacket has been turned under at its corners to simulate a Scottish cut. Edited 11 December , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 No idea if this is even war related just wanted to post it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, TomWW1 said: No idea if this is even war related just wanted to post it It’s a very good photo of a private in the Grenadier Guards wearing drill order (belt with one ammunition pouch). Looking at his general appearance and what seems to be a SMLE long arm, just pre WW1 would be about right. At the end of WW1 King George V ordered that the minimum rank in the Guards Division was to be Guardsman as a replacement for Private. Notice that the boots are highly polished, but not ‘bulled’ to a high shine in the way that they have been from post WW2 national service (conscription) onward. Edited 12 December , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 1 minute ago, FROGSMILE said: It’s a very good photo of a private in the Grenadier Guards wearing drill order (belt with one ammunition pouch). Looking at his general appearance and what seems to be a SMLE long arm, just pre WW1 would be about right. Thanks for the info FROGSMILE, appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 (edited) On 12/12/2023 at 09:02, TomWW1 said: Thanks for the info FROGSMILE, appreciate it I’m glad to help. I might have the rifle wrong and it could be a ‘long’ Lee Enfield, as the bayonet pattern No 7 with a shorter blade than usual for a SMLE is fitted, but I can see an upper sling swivel that suggests SMLE. Ergo it might be an SMLE with old style (No7) short bayonet. Edited 14 December , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: I’m glad to help. I might have the rifle wrong and it could be a ‘long’ Lee Enfield, as the bayonet pattern with a shorter blade than usual for a SMLE is fitted. Maybe, is there anyway i could somehow if i was lucky enough be able to identify the man in the photo? Edited 12 December , 2023 by TomWW1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 Just now, TomWW1 said: Maybe, is there anyway i could somehow if i was lucky enough to identify the man in the photo? Not unless you happen to have all his details written on the back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 Just now, FROGSMILE said: Not unless you happen to have all his details written on the back! about that ill take a photo when i get home later but the photo is like glued to the back of like a green bit of carboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 Just now, TomWW1 said: about that ill take a photo when i get home later but the photo is like glued to the back of like a green bit of carboard It sounds like the backing from either, a picture frame, or an old photo album. You would have to be very careful how you removed it, and there’s no guarantee that anyone will have written who it is on the back of the actual photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 12 December , 2023 Share Posted 12 December , 2023 Just now, FROGSMILE said: It sounds like the backing from either, a picture frame, or an old photo album. You would have to be very careful how you removed it, and there’s no guarantee that anyone will have written who it is on the back of the actual photo. Exactly and lets be honest if they planned on putting it in a photo frame i doubt there is anything on the back but you never know i guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 Heres another for you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 (edited) On 13/12/2023 at 09:53, TomWW1 said: Heres another for you guys! Once again he is I believe a member of the Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS) and wearing class III working rig with its usual black buttons. The jacket is an unusual type, with bellowed cargo pockets in the skirt, and might perhaps be associated with a particular trade - see photo of ‘carpenters’ below**. It is the same type of jacket as is seen in the group photo in your separate thread a week ago when for some reason you thought it might’ve been at the Giants Causeway in Northern Ireland. I cannot see any rate or trade badges so I think he is a technician of some kind, but presumably below both, the leading seaman, or petty officer level, but I would concede to the far greater knowledge of @horatio2 and @RNCVR as to what the man’s status might be? I think that dark caps were the winter rig and white covers worn on top in the summer if I recall correctly. **perhaps carpenter had special pockets for some reason. Edited 14 December , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 AIF 5th Division Trench Mortar men( boys judging by their youthful looks) this photo likely a Louis Thuillier image taken at Vignacourt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, FROGSMILE said: Once again he is I believe a member of the Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS) and wearing class III working rig with its usual black buttons. I cannot see any rate or trade badges so I think he is a technician of some kind, but presumably below both, the leading seaman, or petty officer level, but I would concede to the far greater knowledge of @horatio2 and @RNCVR as to what the man’s status might be? I think that dark caps were the winter rig and white covers worn on top in the summer if I recall correctly. **perhaps carpenter had special pockets for some reason. Class III uniform "Men not dressed as Seamen". No indication of rate or rank badges, so unable to determine his trade in the RNAS. Yes, he could well be a Carpenter, or Rigger, Fitter, etc. Likely ground crew. Edited 13 December , 2023 by RNCVR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomWW1 Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 5 minutes ago, RNCVR said: Class III uniform "Men not dressed as Seamen". No indication of rate or rank badges, so unable to determine his trade in the RNAS. Yes, he could well be a Carpenter, or Rigger, Fitter, etc. Likely ground crew. okay thank you for the information i highly doubt we can really go any further finding information on the man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 55 minutes ago, TomWW1 said: okay thank you for the information i highly doubt we can really go any further finding information on the man? No, very slim or no chance. I have many RPPCs in my collection un named, will never know who they were. I dont think many were actually named as the person being photo'd & those he was sending the cards to knew who he was & thus no reason in his mind to ID the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrisc8 Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 One more came in the post today. ASC Cpl ? [ not happy ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 3 hours ago, morrisc8 said: One more came in the post today. ASC Cpl ? [ not happy ] Great photo of WW1 Anglo/American association and cooperation. Don’t that often see such scenes in the theatre of war. Thank you for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 5 hours ago, RNCVR said: Class III uniform "Men not dressed as Seamen". No indication of rate or rank badges, so unable to determine his trade in the RNAS. Yes, he could well be a Carpenter, or Rigger, Fitter, etc. Likely ground crew. Thank you Bryan, that makes sense. I’d like to get better information about the unusual jacket pockets, but despite searching in the National Maritime Museum online collection, which has a goodly number of uniform items, I cannot find a surviving example. 6 hours ago, mark holden said: AIF 5th Division Trench Mortar men( boys judging by their youthful looks) this photo likely a Louis Thuillier image taken at Vignacourt. They look like genuine twins Mark. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 13 December , 2023 Share Posted 13 December , 2023 Did they make it home to Australia? We will never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromelles Posted 14 December , 2023 Share Posted 14 December , 2023 19 hours ago, mark holden said: AIF 5th Division Trench Mortar men( boys judging by their youthful looks) this photo likely a Louis Thuillier image taken at Vignacourt. Both look to be wearing British tunics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerwalker Posted 18 December , 2023 Share Posted 18 December , 2023 Forgot to post this one yesterday as it is dated "Sunday 17/12/16" and inscribed; Belgium 1916 Xmas greetings all round. Please make the best of your time, and forget me for a short time. Christmas 1916 will only appear once. Best love to all Stanley Wearing cloth Royal Garrison Artillery shoulder titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 December , 2023 Share Posted 18 December , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, gunnerwalker said: Forgot to post this one yesterday as it is dated "Sunday 17/12/16" and inscribed; Belgium 1916 Xmas greetings all round. Please make the best of your time, and forget me for a short time. Christmas 1916 will only appear once. Best love to all Stanley Wearing cloth Royal Garrison Artillery shoulder titles. A super photo, thank you for posting it. He’s also wearing the 1916 soft SD forage cap (aka trench cap) designed for ease of stowing away when helmets were issued, and marked out by its stitched concentric lines on peak and headband. It’s a little unusual that he wears the 03 belt along with his bandolier, as a lot of men didn’t bother with the former when wearing the latter. Across his chest can be seen the strap for his small box respirator case. The gloves he clasps are of especially good quality, with a tight knit and leather reinforcement to the edge of their cuff. The army issue gloves did not have those premium features. Edited 18 December , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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