Casualty Lists

[dink999]

H4476

 

H4509

 

H4618

 

H4674

 

H4679

 

H4690 contd.

 

H4693

 

H4713 contd.

 

 

part of H4793

 

part of H4809

[Jim Strawbridge]

Thank you, dinks999.  Another one for me.   243 Dvr. Barry, S.  R.F.A.  I have his 1914/5 star group being 1914/5 star named to 243. DVR. S. BARRY, R.F.A. his BWM and Victory medal named to 243 DVR. S. BARRY. R.A.  and his defence medal.

[dink999]

H4832 page 2

 

3 different H4872 lists

 

H4879 different to id 923 on page 42

 

H5232

 

H5234

 

 

H5264

 

H5323 is the same as id 3998 page 56 but is clearer with more service nos. visible

 

H5381 is the same as id 728 on page 41 but with less damage

Edited Friday at 10:35 by dink999
Image links repaired

[dink999]

H5439

 

H5466

 

H5522

 

H5612

 

H5619

 

H5764

 

H5768

 

H5832

 

H5859

 

H5867

[Jim Strawbridge]

Thank you, dink999. Another one for me.   45 Pte. Baggott, H.  Welsh Horse. I have the victory medal to 45 PTE. G.H. BAGGOTT. WELSH H.  (anyone got the BWM?).

[James862]

Hi folks, 

I wonder if you could assist me in finding details of injuries for my Great-Grandfather Robert Roe (2153) who served with the 7th Bn, Royal Munster Fusiliers from 1914-16 before transferring to the 6th Bn, RMF in Salonika. 

He was wounded twice, once at Sulva Bay on the 21st September 1915 and again in Salonika but I haven't the exact date for that. It also appears that he was either wounded or sick around the 26th May 1918 and was under the care of the Military Hospital, Citadel, Cairo. I can find no details as to the exact nature of his injuries but he retired with a 40% pension before a reassessment took it down to 30% a few years later.

I've checked in with the HMHS Assaye thread here which was around Gallipoli at the time but no joy. Any colour you could add would be greatly appreciated. I've attached supporting documents.

Thanks,

James 

 

[David26]

Hi James and welcome to the forum.

First off, many thanks for posting these casualty lists - they help build up the body of information we have.  

Regarding your great-grandfather, if you have access to Ancestry or Find My Past, you could try looking for his service record (I had a quick look on Ancestry but couldn't find it - though as you may know the majority of these were destroyed by a fire in 1940 so that is not surprising.).  I do note from his Medal Index Card that he served in the Army Service Corps after his time in the RMF (image courtesy of Ancestry): 

but I note that he wasn't awarded a Silver War Badge so was not discharged early due to any wounds or illness.  Given that he was still in the RMF in May 1918 when he features on Casualty List E.16161 which you posted, he must have transferred to the ASC sometime after this.  

As to finding out what types of wounds or sickness affected him, the chances of finding those without his service record are slim, I am afraid.  You have obviously already tried looking at newspapers local to where he was from.  I have had a quick look at the MH106 servicemen's medical) records at the National Archives and he doesn't appear to be included there, again not a surprise given that the vast majority were intentionally destroyed after the war and only a small sample retained.  

You could try his unit's war diary (available to download for free from the National Archives) though it is extremely unlikely that he would be mentioned, I'm afraid, though it would at least give you a flavour of what he may have been up to.

It is possible - though as I say, not terribly likely, that he may appear in another casualty list that has been found and posted here.  We currently have about 5800 of these so finding him on any one of these would be a tall order.  One possibility might be to look at other lists in the 'E' series just in case he features in one of these.  You can find out roughly where they are on this thread by checking out the index we've been producing (link below).  A quick look suggests two lists were produced a little before the one you have: 

• E.14590 which is on p15 of the thread and was posted by forum member myos, and
• E.16063 which is on p16 of the thread and was posted by forum member Bardess.

My only other suggestion might be to start a new thread in the Soldiers and their Units thread just in case anyone can help, as I have just seen the Mods have helped you do for your great uncle.

Best of luck,

David.

 

Edited 24 March by David26
Restoring image following broken link

[dink999]

H5870

 

2 different H5874 lists neither the is same as id 4492 posted on page 60

 

H5876

 

5 H5879 lists all different to id 411 posted on page 23

 

2 H5888 lists

[dink999]

2 H5889 lists different to both id 286 page 18 & id 5326 page 69

 

H5896

 

H5897 different to id 562 on page 32

 

H5898

 

H5901

 

H5904

 

2 different H5905 lists

[Jim Strawbridge]

Thank you, dink999. Another one for me.  887 Pte. Rowlands, W.  A.V.C.  I have the British War Medal to SE-887  PTE. W. ROWLANDS. A.V.C.

[dink999]

4 H5906 lists all different to id 454 & id 2867

 

H5907

 

2 H5912 lists different from id 387 & id 5104

 

H5913 different from id 529 & id 5185

 

H5914

[dink999]

3 H5915 lists all different from id 507 on page 28

 

H5917 different from id 563 & id 5105

 

H5927

 

no prefix or number but the service records of 56104 Spr. F. W. Sykes show that it is H5930

 

H5961

H5964

 

2 H5978 lists both different from id 3646 & id 4493

 

H5987

 

[Jim Strawbridge]

Thank you, dimk999. I am spoilt. Four for me. 293 L/C Root, F. A.S.C.  I have the 1914/5 star to 293 L.CPL. F. ROOT. A.S.C.  730 pTE. Bateman, F. R.A.M.C.  I have the 1914/5 star trio to 730 PTE. F. BATEMAN. R.A.M.C.  117 S/S. Thirlwell, T. R.F.A.  I have the 1914/5 star named to 117 SD. SJT. T. THIRLWELL. R.F.A. (SD. SJT. = Saddle Sergeant, I believe).  998 Pte. Hamilton, R. Ayrshire Yeo. I have the BWM to 998 PTE. R. HAMILTON. AYR. YEO.  Always happy to receive reunites.

[James862]

On 13/08/2022 at 15:27, David26 said:

Hi James and welcome to the forum.

First off, many thanks for posting these casualty lists - they help build up the body of information we have.  

Regarding your great-grandfather, if you have access to Ancestry or Find My Past, you could try looking for his service record (I had a quick look on Ancestry but couldn't find it - though as you may know the majority of these were destroyed by a fire in 1940 so that is not surprising.).  I do note from his Medal Index Card that he served in the Army Service Corps after his time in the RMF (image courtesy of Ancestry): 

but I note that he wasn't awarded a Silver War Badge so was not discharged early due to any wounds or illness.  Given that he was still in the RMF in May 1918 when he features on Casualty List E.16161 which you posted, he must have transferred to the ASC sometime after this.  

As to finding out what types of wounds or sickness affected him, the chances of finding those without his service record are slim, I am afraid.  You have obviously already tried looking at newspapers local to where he was from.  I have had a quick look at the MH106 servicemen's medical) records at the National Archives and he doesn't appear to be included there, again not a surprise given that the vast majority were intentionally destroyed after the war and only a small sample retained.  

You could try his unit's war diary (available to download for free from the National Archives) though it is extremely unlikely that he would be mentioned, I'm afraid, though it would at least give you a flavour of what he may have been up to.

It is possible - though as I say, not terribly likely, that he may appear in another casualty list that has been found and posted here.  We currently have about 5800 of these so finding him on any one of these would be a tall order.  One possibility might be to look at other lists in the 'E' series just in case he features in one of these.  You can find out roughly where they are on this thread by checking out the index we've been producing (link below).  A quick look suggests two lists were produced a little before the one you have: 

• E.14590 which is on p15 of the thread and was posted by forum member myos, and
• E.16063 which is on p16 of the thread and was posted by forum member Bardess.

My only other suggestion might be to start a new thread in the Soldiers and their Units thread just in case anyone can help, as I have just seen the Mods have helped you do for your great uncle.

Best of luck,

David.

 

Many thanks for the steer David. I'll start pouring through the lists!

[dink999]

H6001 different to id 215 on page 13

 

H6010

 

H6011

 

2 H6268 lists differnt to ids 431, 455 & 2868

 

2 H6275 lists different to id 278 page 18

 

H6295

 

H6303 ifferent to id 517 on page 29

 

H6306

[dink999]

Images courtesy of Find My Past

H6312

 

H6321

 

H6373

 

HB6451

 

H6472

 

H6533

 

H6568

 

H6581

 

H6605 different to id 670 on page 38

 

 

Edited Friday at 10:40 by dink999
Image links repaired

[brianmorris547]

Dave

I posted the above H 6531 on 20/06/1916 (page 22) but H 5905 which you posted on Sunday did name some 1916 REs. I had not seen this list before. 

Cheers

Brian

[dink999]

 

On 16/08/2022 at 07:35, brianmorris547 said:

Dave

I posted the above H 6531 on 20/06/1916 (page 22) but H 5905 which you posted on Sunday did name some 1916 REs. I had not seen this list before. 

Cheers

Brian

Brian,

Thanks for that, I did'nt mean to post H6531 as I had checked the list I had against the one you posted and saw that they were the same. Some how it got uploaded.

Hopefully this next batch will all be new.

H6606

 

H6648

 

H6707

 

H6759

 

H6764 different to id 439 on page 25

 

H6809

 

H6810 different to id 550 on page 31

 

H6825

 

H6828

 

H6832

[dink999]

H7000

 

H7031

 

Amendments to H7051, H7054 & H7169

 

H7119

 

H7123

 

H7146 different to id 2477 on page 49

 

H7184

 

H7273

[hazelclark]

Hi,

I’m afraid I am not very active on the Forum these days and as a result I’m finding it hard to remember how to do certain things.  In any case, I have been trolling backwards through these casualty lists for the last two nights and am only at page 58! I’m wondering if there is a more expeditious way of going about looking for someone. I’m looking for my grandfather Andrew Clark when he was with the 1st Seaforth #10260 in 1914/15, and a great Uncle James Clark #8284 in 1915/16 when he was with the 9th Seaforth. I found my grandfather in the Scotsman in 1917 when he lost his arm with the 8th Seaforth but can’t find his first wound record. The Uncle I can’t find in any of the Scottish newspapers at all. I had the idea that if I could find one of the original records I might be able to trace their movements through the evacuation process.

Is there somewhere one can look at Battalion casualty lists?

Thanks,

Hazel C.

[dink999]

2 H7280 lists both different to id 440 & id 5327

 

H7293

 

H7295 different from id 521 on page 29

 

H7297

 

4 H7298 lists

 

H7313

[dink999]

H7317

 

H7323 different from id 3141 on page 51

 

H7327 different from id 5315 on page 69

 

2 H7329 lists different from id 493 on page 28

 

H7337

 

3 H7339 lists

 

H7340 

[Jim Strawbridge]

Thank you, dink999. Another one for me. Your 402 Pte. Taylor, H. AVC.  I have the 1914 star and victory medal named to SE.402 PTE. N. TAYLOR. A.V.C. on the 1914 star (need to check the medal for the initial) and 402 PTE. H. TAYLOR. A.V.C. on the victory medal.

[dink999]

H7341

 

H7343

 

H7355

 

H7356

 

H7357 different to id 4174 on page 57

 

H7368

 

H7369 diffrent from id 5256 on page 68

 

H7371

[dink999]

2  H7373 lists

 

2 H7374 lists different from id 532 on page 30

 

2 H7378 lists different from id 5257 on page 68

 

2 H7379 lists different from id 506 & id 578

 

H7385 different from id 1807 on page 46

 

H7387 is the same as id 268 on page 17 but with less damage