nedemit Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Hi Tim, He obviously had kids (or you wouldn't be here), Do you know the name of his wife? This site http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ is free to search however depending on when he married he may not appear yet. The marriage certificate will give the name of his father which in turn may allow us to pick him up in the census. Doug Thanks for your interest Doug Married Eva Reynolds and had 4 children (Walter John, Ernest Alfred, John and Marjorie), the youngest being my Grandmother. She was very young (maybe 4?) when he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Hi Tim, Free BMD has this: Marriages Jun 1918 (97%) Neno Eva Parsons Okehampton 5b 768a Parsons Alfred Neno Okehampton 5b 768a Okehampton is in Devon. Ring any bells? Does it fit with the birth of his kids? Eva may have been a widow? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Looks as though she was a widow: Marriages Jun 1899 Neno John Okehampton 5b 807 Reynolds Eva Okehampton 5b 807 If you go here: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ and purchase the marriage certificate from the previous marriage details I gave you that should get you back further. Assuming we have the correct couple of course. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedemit Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Hi Tim, Free BMD has this: Marriages Jun 1918 (97%) Neno Eva Parsons Okehampton 5b 768a Parsons Alfred Neno Okehampton 5b 768a Okehampton is in Devon. Ring any bells? Does it fit with the birth of his kids? Eva may have been a widow? Doug Yes, interesting. From my understanding, Eva Reynolds was married to John Neno (and had at least 5 children from 1899-1912), John died at some point whereby she married Alfred Parsons (in 1918 if I understand what you have written above correctly) and had another 4 children from 1917 (oops?) to 1923. You have managed to find out a small piece of new information thanks to your great help Doug. Married in June 1918. Does this shead any more light on my man Parsons or is this where the trail ends? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 From the point of view of the WWI records I think we are at a stop for now. If you get the marriage certificate that will give you the name of his father, his age and his occupation. His age may assist in picking him up on the pension records (if of course he is there). It will certainly assist in searching the census records. The pension records do not record an Alfred James Parsons however there are 12 Alfred Parsons of which 2 have a birth parish of Devon with another 7 not recording a birth parish and of those 3 have no year of birth. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedemit Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Thanks for your help Doug. I think I am going to have to part with some coin to get much further it seems (or not as the case may be). I really would love to know who he fought with if nothing else. Appreciate your assistance in pointing me to some other possible leads. I crossed my fingers and had a look on Ancestry.co.uk using their Pay-per-view option and became instantly frustrated with the lack of description for what you are about to use your credits on. I blew one on basically a blank page. Ahhrrrr.... Anyway, live and learn. I have ordered the marrige certificate so hopefully that may shead a little more light..... fingers crossed. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snailybailey Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Please forgive my ignorance but I have searched the NA in vain for the service records of two of my Great Grandfathers and read this thread with interest. Since both my Gt. Grandfathers would have certainly had dependants is there a chance that their pensions would have been claimed by their next of kin? I don't have access to Ancestry but would be eternally grateful if a kind Forum member would try for me. I am desperate to find any trace of records for them both. They are as follows: Pte. 9232 Hugh Kenworthy 11th Bttn Lancs Fusiliers KIA 16.05.16 aged 39 Resided at Globe Lane Farm, Dukinfield, Cheshire Pte. 9341 Austin Joseph Shepherd 1st Bttn Lancs Fusiliers KIA 01.07.16 aged 37 Husband of Nellie Garratt (formerly Shepherd), of 107, Pitt St., Oldham, Lancashire Not sure if this is all the info required to do a search? Hoping somebody rises to the challenge! Thanks Glyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhound Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Sorry, Glyn, can't see either of them. But this series of records relates mainly to men who survived the war, as they are a selection of service records that were in use at the Ministry of Pensions in 1940. If you have already searched at the NA, you've probably already looked in them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snailybailey Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Sorry, Glyn, can't see either of them. But this series of records relates mainly to men who survived the war, as they are a selection of service records that were in use at the Ministry of Pensions in 1940. If you have already searched at the NA, you've probably already looked in them anyway. Oh well....what I suspected I guess, but I live in hope, thanks for looking anyway I appreciate it Regards Glyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 27 August , 2007 Share Posted 27 August , 2007 Tim Just had a look No luck I'm afraid to say. Glyn Thanks a lot Glyn. TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 27 August , 2007 Share Posted 27 August , 2007 Tim, Here's a bit more for your jigsaw puzzle: From CWGC (I was actually looking for John Neno in case he was a WW1 casualty). Name: NENO, LEONARD Initials: L Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: Devonshire Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Age: 32 Date of Death: 06/06/1944 Service No: 5616950 Additional information: Son of John Neno, and of Eva Neno, of Bratton, Clovelly, Devon. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: XI. E. 25. Cemetery: BAYEUX WAR CEMETERY In case you had not found this one. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedemit Posted 6 September , 2007 Share Posted 6 September , 2007 Thanks Ian. I was aware of Leonard Neno and had found this information in the past. On that, is there service record information an the like for WW2 soliders that is accessable somewhere? I would like to learn more about this man. Back onto my Alfred Parsons dillema, I just received his marrige certificate in the mail and on that he is listed as 245408 LC Alfred Parsons Labour Corps (the labour corps bit is a guess, the script is a little difficult to read but that is what I think it says). He was 43 when married on 2 Apr 1918 and his father was John Parsons. Is this new information likely to uncover any new leads or is this about as good as I am going to get? Thanks for everyones help Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 6 September , 2007 Share Posted 6 September , 2007 Hi Tim, Just checked Ancestry for Alfred Parsons 245408 and various combinations thereof and no joy. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 6 September , 2007 Share Posted 6 September , 2007 The 1881 census has this: Civil Parish: St Budeaux County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Knackersknowle Registration district: Plympton St Mary Sub-registration district: Plympton ED, institution, or vessel: 17 RG11; Piece: 2189; Folio: 5; Page: 3 John Parsons, Head, Mar, 49, Agricultural Labourer, Born Devon, Eggbuckland Elizabeth Parsons, Wife, Mar, 46, Born Devon, Oakhampton Hannah Parsons, Daughter, Unm, 20, Born Devon, St Budeaux Alfred Parsons, Son, 7, Scholar, Devon, St Budeaux. Does this match the details from the marriage certificate? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedemit Posted 6 September , 2007 Share Posted 6 September , 2007 John Parsons, Head, Mar, 49, Agricultural Labourer, Born Devon, Eggbuckland Elizabeth Parsons, Wife, Mar, 46, Born Devon, Oakhampton Hannah Parsons, Daughter, Unm, 20, Born Devon, St Budeaux Alfred Parsons, Son, 7, Scholar, Devon, St Budeaux. Does this match the details from the marriage certificate? The only real information that it is giving me is that their residence at time of marriage was Bratton Clovelly, Devon and his father is John Parsons whose profession was Road (something illegible). Alfreds profession is listed as Soldier. That is pretty much all I can glean from that. I think it was witnessed by what looks like Gertrude Parsons but I am not sure where she might fit in in the scheme of things. Is Ancestry the only place that there is likely to be any information? Is there a nominal roll record or something similar listing all the soldiers in the war? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procat Posted 6 September , 2007 Share Posted 6 September , 2007 Hi Tim, I have tried searching the census on Ancestry but cannot nail him down. There are other pay sites such as Findmypast.com etc. Unlike the Australian records there is no British nominal roll for WWI due to WWII bombing. See http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/militar.../army/step5.htm for further information. As far as the 1901 UK census if he was a professional soldier he may have been in the Boer War when the census was taken or in another overseas posting in which case he would not be recorded in the census. Others may be able to point you towards more resources that I am not aware of. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedemit Posted 6 September , 2007 Share Posted 6 September , 2007 Thanks for all your help and suggestions Doug. I think I will start a new topic to see if I can snare someone scanning over the subject titles who might feel like a bit of a challenge. The boer war idea sounds interesting though. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 6 September , 2007 Share Posted 6 September , 2007 Tim, WW2 service records are held by the Ministry of Defense. Copies can be obtained, either by the serviceman himself or, if deceased, by the closest next of kin. In the latter case you need to provide a death certificate and proof of kinship. Then it costs some - around GB Pnds 30 I think. Try searching this site as the matter has come up from time to time, including the contact address info for the MOD. The Boer War angle is certainly worth persuing, and I think a prewar serviceman's records may be held by Kew. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan johnson Posted 6 November , 2007 Share Posted 6 November , 2007 My Grandfather was Killed in Action on 29th May 1915. He left a Wife and 4 children.. 1. Would she have got a pension? 2. How much would it have been?.. 3. She however died in 1920 of Flu leaving 4 children .The eldest being my mother, then aged 12 years. 4. Would the pension then Stop? His name was Richard Hine, born in Wandsworth ,Surrey. A member of the 2nd Essex Reg. 2nd Battalion, a Lance Corporal No.16867 His Wife was residing in Fulham, Middlesex. I would appreciate anything of interest from you knowledgable folk. Cheers. Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karasouli Posted 7 December , 2007 Share Posted 7 December , 2007 james ellison 1053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkokcl Posted 11 December , 2007 Share Posted 11 December , 2007 Would someone with an ancestry account be kind enough to check for me the pension file for Charles Frederick Campbell (there is only one with that name) to see if he has a date of birth of 1 May 1891. Many thanks, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Clay Posted 11 December , 2007 Share Posted 11 December , 2007 Would someone with an ancestry account be kind enough to check for me the pension file for Charles Frederick Campbell (there is only one with that name) to see if he has a date of birth of 1 May 1891. Many thanks, Mark I'm looking at Ancestry at the mo - I'll take a butchers... Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkokcl Posted 11 December , 2007 Share Posted 11 December , 2007 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherubdc Posted 11 December , 2007 Share Posted 11 December , 2007 Hiya Mark Not sure if you have the answer to your question yet, but I was on Ancestry looking at pensions records so I thought I'd have a quick look for your man anyway. I couldn't see a date of birth listed, but his age is listed as 19 years and 5 months, and the document dated 2nd October 1914, so the month would be about right but the age listed would make his year of birth 1895. Let me know if you want any further info regarding this and I will have another look for you. Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Clay Posted 11 December , 2007 Share Posted 11 December , 2007 Hi Mark I see Dawn has beaten me to it I confirm what she says - doesn't confirm the birth date you're looking for. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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