easily_confused Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Hi I wonder if anyone can help, The story has it that either my grandfather or great grandfather won the Victoria Cross how would I begin to find out which. I have looked up the medal card of my great grandfather and it isn't listed but neither is his military medal which he also won. GG/ Garrett Ryan 5917 Royal Irish Regt G/ Patrick Gerald Ryan ch/x113839 Royal Marine Thanks for any help given it's much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 According to the full list at victoriacross.org, neither a Garrett nor Patrick Ryan has won a VC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 The Royal Marine listed is a short service man enlisted for WW2 not the Great War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easily_confused Posted 26 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Oh yeah sorry about that didn't think about it being WW2 Could not find full list at Victoriacross.org only full list in museums etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 There have been 4 Ryans who have received the VC John Ryan — 1857; Lucknow, India John Ryan — 1863; Cameron Town, New Zealand John Ryan — 1918; Hindenberg Defences, France Miles Ryan — 1857; Delhi, India None of them fit the names you give.................the family "story" as you put it is probably just that. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 There is a citation for a Pte. G. Ryan here: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...PageDuplicate=n &issueNumber=30879&pageNumber=0&SearchFor=Pte.G.Ryan&selMedalType=&selHonourType= Did he have an eye shot out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Hello MelP Can you re-post the link as it appears to be malformed. Is it for a VC...I ask because I have checked the register and supplimentary list on the NA website and the only Ryans are the ones shown in my post above. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...ctoriacross.asp Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Andy Apologies for inadveretently misleading you, I should have mentioned that it was for a DCM - and now I can't retrieve the reference regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easily_confused Posted 26 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 26 March , 2007 grr........ tried to look on london gazette but couldn't find citation. It's so frustrating as I have the Victoria Cross medal but it's in a cabinet which has been firmly shut forever with about another 10 medals some of which belong to my grandad and the rest to my great grandad. I just didn't want to have to smash it open to find out who it belonged to if I could help it I was also hoping to be able to find out what he was awarded it for. If anyone does have any other idea's where to look I would be most grateful. Thanks again to everyone for replying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Easily If you take a photograph of the medals and post on here then the experts can identify them. Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Here is a list of every VC winner there has ever been. Courtesy of an illustrious Forum member.... http://www.victoria-cross.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 It's so frustrating as I have the Victoria Cross medal but it's in a cabinet which has been firmly shut forever ........didn't want to have to smash it open to find out who it belonged to if I could help it ........ Er, I think I'd be getting the hammer and chisel out if it was me and I thought there was even the slightest chance that it was a genuine VC. The highest price paid is over £400K. Now, of course, you'd never want to sell it, but you'd want to make sue it was properly insured wouldnt you? And make sure it was kept locke dup in the bank's vault and not on the front room wall where any blagger could just walk off with it. But then again, as we can be pretty sure that's not one of your relatives who won it, then I guess you might prefer the £400K. Perhaps it's one of the famous missing ones. I wonder how grandad came by it? Poker game? Found it in a field? Theft? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 But then again, as we can be pretty sure that's not one of your relatives who won it, then I guess you might prefer the £400K. Perhaps it's one of the famous missing ones. I wonder how grandad came by it? Poker game? Found it in a field? Theft? John Steady on John! Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Could be Sam Harveys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Could be Sam Harveys Or Duncan Home's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max (UK) Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Just want to say I'm really enjoying this thread ! How exciting !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Or Duncan Home's. I knew his brother Barrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Or Duncan Home's. Andy, I knew his cousin. Donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthergw Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 Am I alone in hearing, soft on the evening air, the ghostly sound of fairy hammers and the faint echo of a hollow laugh from under the humpbacked bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 26 March , 2007 Share Posted 26 March , 2007 I see, from past posts, that "easily confused" comes from stout stock. Great Uncle Jary was a DCM winner and now bravery on the Ryan side of the family. As far as I know, none of my three relatives who served did anything particularly brave (or if they did, they never got a medal for it). John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 27 March , 2007 Share Posted 27 March , 2007 If you have not seen the inscription, it might have been awarded to a previous generation and the family story has just skipped the correct attribution; the only way to know is to read it. Then you have to find if it is the genuine original, I think you will need to go to Hancocks for that as I would not trust any of the other alternatives that's the point when you can start finding out what to insure it for. Is it a completely sealed cabinet, no way in through the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easily_confused Posted 27 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 27 March , 2007 Hi all Sorry i've not replied sooner, Thanks again for replying to my post. I've had a good chat to the family and it's been decided that the box has to be opened, there are quite a few other medals in there so we can also check whether these are part of the family or just part of a collection someone was putting together. I am guessing that reproduction medals have been available for a long time? as this box has been sealed like this since, well my dad says since he was a kid. I have only been spurred on by this since when I starting researching my family history I found out my grandad was on the HMS Prince of Wales when it sunk and was made POW, my nanna then said oooo I've got some medals somewhere that u might like to see and voila, half are supposed to be my grandads from WW2 and the other half my great grandads from WW1. Regarding Sydney Jary hes actually my Great Great Uncle as i'm using my aunts computer, it was her finding out so much about him (she followed Steve Fullers advice and spoke to Nigel Lutt who helped her loads) thats given me the encouragement to find out more about my grandad and great grandad. I'm sorry if you think I have wasted your time with a fake request but it was a genuine question for genuine reasons. If it's ok I will keep you posted as to what we find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auimfo Posted 27 March , 2007 Share Posted 27 March , 2007 It's not only o.k. but I think most here will be biting their fingernails in anticipation waiting for the results!! Any chance of a photo of the entire group? Cheers, Tim L. (And if it's genuine, can I be your new best friend ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 27 March , 2007 Share Posted 27 March , 2007 This begins to remind me of a long-ago thread on the discovery of a box full of medals ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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