Ice Tiger Posted 3 August , 2007 Share Posted 3 August , 2007 Jerimiah See entry for J Donovan above. It could be John or Jerimiah or infact neither. Do you know the place of birth? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 3 August , 2007 Share Posted 3 August , 2007 Last Donovan on your list Tasha Michael Donovan There is only one Michael Donovan listed who was born in Carshalton, as this is next to Croydon i hope it's the right one. Volume 49 page 19 Royal West Surrey Rgt Age 38 years 1 month height 5' 5 3/4'' Weight 138lb chest 37'' Expansion 2'' Complection dark Eyes Grey hair Brown Distinctive marks Scars+ Occupation Labourer Birthplace Carshalton County Surrey Attestation Date 18/08/14 Where Attested kingston Remarks None Tasha I hope this has been of help to you. As for the address (where listed) in the remarks, don't assume anything! They could be the address of: Birth Home Work Next of kin Friend All of which were used. It doesn't record which one it is. Good luck with your research & welcome to the forum Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnys Posted 3 August , 2007 Share Posted 3 August , 2007 Jerimiah See entry for J Donovan above. It could be John or Jerimiah or infact neither. Do you know the place of birth? Andy both born in croydon cornelius and john were twins i do no they lived in croydon for quiet sumtime before the wars and after what about a micheal. the thing is we got a picture of micheal just no regiment lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnys Posted 3 August , 2007 Share Posted 3 August , 2007 none of them apart from george match could they have entered into another regiment cornelius and john were born in 1896 or could they have lied about their age? jeremaih was born 1863 micheal was born 1866 or could they have been split up this is cunfusing me ha ha as i no they were in the battle of somme i have 3 picture of them and 1 is on croyon online i found that 1 by acciendent the man tried to tell me it wasnt michael but i studied the picture all i found was on 1 of the mens arm was a croos with i thought was medic but i cant c my ggg grandfathers arm all i no is it was taken at war hospital eccelston rd croydon now i am lost its like my family disaper during the wars but we no they were there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 3 August , 2007 Share Posted 3 August , 2007 both born in croydon cornelius and john were twins i do no they lived in croydon for quiet sumtime before the wars and after what about a micheal. the thing is we got a picture of micheal just no regiment lol Tasha The Cornelius I have posted is the only Cornelius Donovan registered as having enlisted in Surrey and The J donovan is the only Donovan with the initial J to have been born in Croydon & enlisted in Surrey. If these or any others are not your men then the ones you are looking for did not enlist in Surrey. As Croydon was only just over the border form the London administrative district the men oyu are looking for may have enlisted there. Unfortunatley I do not have the london records. Perhaps someone else on the forum can assist. Also remember that at this time many people swapped their first and middle names around. An example is a great uncle of mine who was Thomas Leslie Goulter. It says Thomas Leslie on his birth certificate but he was always known in the family as Leslie & Leslie is the first name on his school records and death certificate. Good luck Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnys Posted 3 August , 2007 Share Posted 3 August , 2007 Tasha The Cornelius I have posted is the only Cornelius Donovan registered as having enlisted in Surrey and The J donovan is the only Donovan with the initial J to have been born in Croydon & enlisted in Surrey. If these or any others are not your men then the ones you are looking for did not enlist in Surrey. As Croydon was only just over the border form the London administrative district the men oyu are looking for may have enlisted there. Unfortunatley I do not have the london records. Perhaps someone else on the forum can assist. Also remember that at this time many people swapped their first and middle names around. An example is a great uncle of mine who was Thomas Leslie Goulter. It says Thomas Leslie on his birth certificate but he was always known in the family as Leslie & Leslie is the first name on his school records and death certificate. Good luck Andy thanks for all ur help andy i managed thanks to u get george now i gota find some1 who will help me with londons recuits good luck me thanks for ur time xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 7 August , 2007 Share Posted 7 August , 2007 Chris. having made your kind offer I hope you don't think I was trying to steal your thunder. Hope you find the cd as interesting as I have. Although it gets frustrating as I know at least two of my men attested at these recruitment centres but they are not in these records. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrflnet Posted 16 August , 2007 Share Posted 16 August , 2007 Hi Any chance of a lookup for Arthur Joseph Edwards born c1896 and living in Norwood? He served in the Royal West Surreys, but other than that I have little details. Much appreciated Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 17 August , 2007 Share Posted 17 August , 2007 Hi Any chance of a lookup for Arthur Joseph Edwards born c1896 and living in Norwood? He served in the Royal West Surreys, but other than that I have little details. Much appreciated Chris Chris I know you say living in Norwood but do you know where he was born? Let me know if you think he is one of the ones in the screen shot though & I will look him up for you. Having said that, unless you have the Rgt wrong it doesn't look like he's here. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrflnet Posted 17 August , 2007 Share Posted 17 August , 2007 Hi Andy Many thanks for the information. He was born Q4 1895 In West Norwood, but the registration district looks like it was Lambeth. Therefore the Arthur Edwards born in Lambeth looks likely. However I have rather a fine photo of him in 1918 / 1919 in the West Surreys. See thread Great Great Uncle. Medal cards etc have been elusive to find, so perhaps he changed regiment? Is this likely? Many thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 19 August , 2007 Share Posted 19 August , 2007 Arthur Edwards born in Lambeth looks likely Chris Am at work at the moment, will post the details later today Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 19 August , 2007 Share Posted 19 August , 2007 As promised Arthur Edwards attestation record Hope he is the right one Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 19 August , 2007 Share Posted 19 August , 2007 Chris Couple of things to note, the remarks entry, "J Bloodworth, 30 Robert Road" could be a friend or employer etc. It is not guaranteed to be next of kin although this is a possibility and yes, a number of men did change Unit/Rgt etc during the course of the war. A number of men on the memorial I am researching did this. Best of luck with your research Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 20 August , 2007 Share Posted 20 August , 2007 Andy, Wondered if you could check the men I posted in the thread earlier. Thanks, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrflnet Posted 20 August , 2007 Share Posted 20 August , 2007 Thanks Andy Sadly the image not showing. Not sure if thats me. Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 21 August , 2007 Share Posted 21 August , 2007 Thanks Andy Sadly the image not showing. Not sure if thats me. Thanks Chris Try this..... Chris. if it doesn't work, PM me your email addres & will send it to you. Jim always happy to help, will look them up tomorrow Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrflnet Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Many thanks Andy, much appreciated. Need to do some more investigating to see if he is the right one. Many thanks. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Jim Sorry, have not had time to do your look ups today, will try again tomorrow. Chris, best of luck with your research Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Andy, No worries. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Jim You're in luck. Got frustrated with dead ends in my research tonight so have done your look ups. John Arthur Pighills - Sorry no record. Ernest W Adams & Herbert Tugwell are below. Both of these men are on the same register and the same page although Herbert enlisted three after Ernest, or at least that's how it's recorded. Best of luck with your research Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_davies Posted 22 August , 2007 Share Posted 22 August , 2007 Andy, Thank you for looking these men up. Its interesting that they were both salesmen. I wonder if the whole surrey group were all employed with the same firm. The Surrey lads, numbered 12670 thru 12700ish, all appear to have initially served in 7th Lincs. I wonder if the were kept in the same company? Of the 30 men, 12 were commissioned, several more becoming NCOs and sadly at least 6 died during the war. Tugwell would become a Sgt, be wounded in Dec 1915, and later serve with the Labour Corps, while Adams was killed on 20 Sep 1915. Thanks again, much appreciated. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 23 August , 2007 Share Posted 23 August , 2007 Jim Could well be the same firm. Both Salesmen, both joined up at the same time, both born Dulwich, both living in Kingston on Thames, all rather coincidental Anyone else need look ups from these registers? Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 23 August , 2007 Share Posted 23 August , 2007 Andy/Jim Don't want to step on anyone's toes but I think this is John Arthur Peghill (not Pighills as suggested)... Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 23 August , 2007 Share Posted 23 August , 2007 Don't want to step on anyone's toes No problem Steve Thanks for the help Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 23 August , 2007 Share Posted 23 August , 2007 Jim There are, in addition to the three you listed, another 27 men listed in the same Lincolnshire 'batch'. All are listed as salesmen, with the exception of two clerks, all born in Dulwich and attested at Kingston-on-Thames on 07/09/14. They are: Francis George DRIVER Frank BIRKETT John Alexander JARROLD Reginald Percy GREY Francis William CROSSLAND John Henry HARDING John Alexander MORGAN William STROUD Michael STOKE George William GREEN Edwin Herbert KENT George Bernard HALSEY James Hubert GOODMAN Henry Albert FULLER Henry William Hotten GEORGE Reginald Arthur BENNETT Oscar Blyth TAYLOR Donald Edmund BARRANCE William HOLE Harold Eustace WALDRON Josiah HURREN Arnold Henry CHIPPERFIELD Herbert Ed. GODDARD George Harold WALKER Charles NORRIS Ed. Charles BATEMAN Edward Yorke LOCKE The images are too big to post here so if you would like the details PM me your email address and I'll send them. Sorry again Andy if I'm treading on toes. Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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