Partial Casualty Lists

[brianmorris547]

Thanks again Charlie

[brianmorris547]

This partial list dates to April 1916. Most of the men from the Labour Bns are named on H 7379 in Casualty Lists p 33.

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[brianmorris547]

Today I started to do FMP number checks on wounded Royal Engineers from the Times OCL January to June inc 1916.

96920 Hart T J is named in the Times OCL 01/01/1916 under RE wounded. This partial list however dates to 24/09/1917. 

EDIT: Re posted on Casualty Lists p 62.

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[brianmorris547]

22463 Dvr A Baker is named in the Times OCL 08/01/1916 under RE wounded. He is shown on this partial list which dates to 1918 The service record of 167559 William Clarke records that he joined 54 FC from Base (4 GBD) on 19/02/1917 and was admitted to hospital on 05/03/1918.

[brianmorris547]

59617 Spr T Wardle is named in the Times OCL 11/01/1916 (Med) under RE wounded. 

EDIT: Re posted on Casualty Lists p 62.

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[brianmorris547]

EDIT: Dates to February 1916 Salonica. Sprs Francis and Ireland both have hospital admissions MH 106/1305 28 GH and Cpl Reynolds was adm 28 GH on 16/02/1916.

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[brianmorris547]

EDIT: Dates to April 1916. 

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[brianmorris547]

EDIT: Spr Bowyer is named in the Times OCL 25/01/1916 under RE wounded, Mediterranean, 2nd St Helens W Lancs FC (TF). He was evacuated to Egypt on HS Assaye arriving at Alex on 23/12/15. Spr Moss was wounded on 18/12/1915 and evacuated to Egypt on HS Assaye on 23/12/15. 

 

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[brianmorris547]

EDIT: Dates to April 1916.

The service record of 84525 Spr Richard Thomas Harrould shows that he arrived at the RE Base Depot on 07/03/1916 from Deganwy and was posted to 5 Bn Special Brigade on 18/03/1916. He was admitted hospital on 16/04/1916. The service record of 98162 Spr Ernest Waghorn 141 ATC shows that he admitted to hospital on 17/04/1916.

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[brianmorris547]

The RE Details on this partial list are:

1292        L/C      Waugh, W                   1 N'brian FC          GSW Buttock

21465      Spr      Welch E                       5 FC                      GSW L Thigh

204006    L/C      Casey M                      10 Labr                 Emmas

 

1292 W Waugh in named on List H 5888 (post 350 on Casualty Lists in Other Forum) Adm Mil H Chatham 13/02/1916.

21465 E Welch is named in the Times OCL 07/02/1916 under RE wounded.

Correct number 124006 M Casey SWB record shows discharged 05/09/1916.

The list probably dates to January 1916.

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[brianmorris547]

22280 Spr A Grant is named in the Times OCL 26/02/1916 under RE wounded. This partial list however dates to October 1917. The service record of 461295 William Henry Wright shows that he embarked at Devonport on 19/09/1916 and arrived at Basrah on 15/10/1916. Posted to 448 FC he was admitted to hospital on 06/10/1917 with an abscess on the knee.

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[brianmorris547]

EDIT: This list dates to June 1916. Sgt Shaw and Spr Dunwoody both in MH 106/311 for groin and ankle respectively.

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[researchingreg]

Brianmorris47

A relation of mine in 1/1 South Midlands Field Coy (later renumbered 474 Coy) was wounded on the Somme near Ovilliers on 14 Aug 1916 and these men serving in his unit were also wounded in and around Skyline Trench on the Somme as follows:

Cpl Mitchell and Sapper Blythe 15 Aug 1916. 

Sappers David, WoodWard and Tucker on 16 Aug 1916

and

L/Cpl Lewis and Sgt (?) Thomas on 17 Aug 1916.

Are there any of these men on your lists and if they are which Filed Hospital did they go to? 

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[brianmorris547]

Reg

I have checked my lists and there are 11 named Mitchell, 1 Blyth, 10 Davis (not David), 4 Woodward, 4 Tucker, 9 Lewis and 18 Thomas. I checked all of them and none are 474 or 1 S Mid FC. My notes tell me that 48 Div RE WDs name names so I looked again but the 474 WD only gives surnames, no service numbers or initials. I tried to find the main bulk of names in the 1914-15 rolls but without success. The 474 WD 26/05/1915 reports Spr Titly died. This was Harry Tittley 1147 who died on 23/05/1915. I searched the rolls for that number but he seems to be in a batch in WO/329/2589 (starting Ancestry p 134/342) who were k in a. If you know the initials or service numbers of these men I will check them on FMP.

Brian 

Edit: I think I have identified them in the Times OCL under RE wounded as follows

15/09/1916    1204 Spr Blythe S J W (Samuel J W) and 1043 2/Cpl J S Lewis (James S)

16/09/1916    3569 Spr S H Davis (?), 1576 Cpl Mitchell, C (Charles). FMP check shows London Gazette 1916 1/2 S Mid FC, 632 Sgt Thorne E J (Edward J). Look again at the WD it is Thorne not Thomas, 1197 Spr Tucker A H (Arthur H) and 2019 Spr Woodward A H (Albert H).

I did FMP checks in March this year but the only hit was on 1576 C Mitchell.

Brian

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[charlie962]

Brian,  might be way off but

what about 1576/496320 a/cpl Charles Mitchell, wounded mid Aug 1916, awarded MM as 1/2 SMid RE

what about 2019/494472 spr Albert Harold Woodward, wounded19/8/16, SMRE

and possibly 1197/494190 Spr Arthur H Tucker (don't know his unit) wounded mid aug 1916, (same CasList as the 2 above)

 

Charlie

 

[brianmorris547]

13 minutes ago, charlie962 said:

Brian,  might be way off but

what about 1576/496320 a/cpl Charles Mitchell, wounded mid Aug 1916, awarded MM as 1/2 SMid RE

what about 2019/494472 spr Albert Harold Woodward, wounded19/8/16, SMRE

and possibly 1197/494190 Spr Arthur H Tucker (don't know his unit) wounded mid aug 1916, (same CasList as the 2 above)

 

Charlie

 

Charlie

I was adding an edit to the post when you replied. I think that I have found them all.

Brian

[charlie962]

Ah, so I was on the right line. Note that both Woodward and Lewis have FMP records for pension claims showing wound history under their second service number.

 

Also Lewis is James John, 1043 and 496164, wounded 17/8/16

 

Charlie

[brianmorris547]

468 Spr W Harper is named in the Times OCL 25/03/1916 under RE wounded 1st E Riding FC (TF). He is one of nine men from that Unit named in the list.

My notes tell me that the WDs of 529 FC of 3 Div (WO 95 1404/1), previously 1/1 East Riding FC, only start at August 1916. In fact, on the cover of the WD someone has written, "To France Sep 1915. Where are the Diaries prior to Aug 16". The WD of the 3 Div CRE records that on 18/02/1916 the E Riding Co moved to join 76 Infantry Brigade at the Bluff. The WD of 76 IB has a good account of the Operations on 02 and 03/03/1916 in re-capturing the Bluff (spoil from the cuttings was built up into a high bank on the north of the Ypres - Comines canal, the main feature being a high knoll known as The Bluff). One Section of the E Riding FC was attached to 2/Suffolks for the attack and although the RE casualties get no mention it seems probable that that is where the nine men in the list were wounded. 

EDIT: Re posted on Casualty Lists p 62.

 

[brianmorris547]

EDIT: Dates to October 1917.

[brianmorris547]

32983 Spr F Trebes is named in the Times OCL 05/04/1916 under RE wounded. 7524 Spr L Baines and 753 L/Cpl Elphick P (correct name Percy C) are named in the Times OCL 10/04/1916 under RE wounded.

EDIT: Re posted on Casualty Lists p 62.

[brianmorris547]

139312 2/Cpl J Allen is named in the Times OCL 10/04/1916 (Second List) under RE wounded. This incident, however, was in July 1916, SDGW shows 130463 (correct number is 139463) Cpl James Pilling of 184 TC k in a on 13/07/1916. The three gassed Sappers are named in the Times OCL 26/08/1916. Their correct details are139312 James Allen, 155867 Emanuel Stockdale and 121574 William Barnes.

 

[brianmorris547]

EDIT: Dates to about late 1916 to early 1917. 

 

[brianmorris547]

EDIT: Dates to September 1917. Sprs Glen and Vickers were invalided from Basra to India on 19/09/1917 on the same two hospital ships.

 

[brianmorris547]

Only one Sapper on this partial list. 2321 (correct number 23221) L/Cpl Mitchell R of 15 FC. My notes tell me that the WD of 15 FC, 8 Div, has Field Returns from 27/11/1915 to 17/06/1916. The Field Return dated 19/02/1916 records that 23221 A/L/Cpl Mitchell R was appointed Lance Corporal. The Field Return dated 10/06/1916 records that he was raised to Blacksmith's rate of pay. He is then named in the WD on 19/07/1916 as being wounded in an action on that date. The date on the list is therefore 23/07/1916. This is corroborated by the service record of 24884 Pte John Reynolds of 8 Dublin Fusiliers. He was "dangerously wounded" in 33 CCS on 20/07/1916. He survived and was discharged on 13/04/1917. 

[brianmorris547]

This partial list dates to October 1916.

The service record of 48437 Spr E Draper shows that he died of diabetes in 2 Can Sty Hosp on 24/10/1916.

90596 Dvr Whybrow E G is named in the WD of 77 FC of 17 Div. "16/10/1916 Dvr Whybrow E G sent to hospital (Sick)". I can find no mention of 59219 Spr E A Barrett in the WD but his MRIC had a disembarkation date of 15/07/1915 which is the date that 77 FC disembarked at Havre. The WD of 77 FC has Field Returns in 1915 and for 1916 names casualties both sick and wounded but does not show numbers. It also shows injured horse numbers but not names. Reinforcements are not named e.g 29/02/1916 Re-Infs 28 men arrived.