mva Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 5 minutes ago, The Prussian said: Salut Martine! Oops... I´ve never heard that word before... So it exists. Thanks for the info. But anyway, I still read "Frau" Dir auch ein frohes Weihnachtsfest und einen guten Rutsch! man lernt nie aus ! one can always learn by the way, I read 'Frau' too, but : we have here in the Somme a postcard sent by a German soldier with the address : "wohlgeborene ...." : this surely was humor ... just as I could write to you as, for instance,"A. Graf Hubbelrath" (einen anderen Stadtteil kannst Du Dir auswählen !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 That´s possible... Hubbelrath is a part of Düsseldorf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 2 hours ago, mva said: man lernt nie aus ! one can always learn by the way, I read 'Frau' too, but : we have here in the Somme a postcard sent by a German soldier with the address : "wohlgeborene ...." : this surely was humor ... just as I could write to you as, for instance,"A. Graf Hubbelrath" (einen anderen Stadtteil kannst Du Dir auswählen !) Wohlgeborene Martine, It wasn‘t humour but a honorific used to address influential persons of a higher social status within smaller communities such as doctors, teachers, priests, postmasters etc. https://heraldik-wiki.de/wiki/Hochwohlgeboren https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honoratioren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, charlie2 said: Wohlgeborene Martine, It wasn‘t humour but a honorific used to address influential persons of a higher social status within smaller communities such as doctors, teachers, priests, postmasters etc. Sorry, Charlie2, I don't think this applies to this case : the soldier was a painter (Malermeister) writing to his wife in Berlin ... I have researched (he still lived at the same address in 1940), but I can"t find the card now - if I do, I'll show it here kind regards from the Somme - und guten Rutsch ! PS - actually not a Malermeister, but a Schlosser - here is the card & the Adressbuch 1940 : Edited 23 December , 2018 by mva added pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 (edited) Dear GreyC, The wife? Isn't that adressed to 'Freiin' (an aristocratic 'Miss')? Kindest regards, Kim. It´s definitively "Frau". That used to be the way married women were addressed officially: as "Frau" and then the name of their husband (here with title "Dr"). Freein would be an unmarried Freifrau so no male name involved. The address would have to be "von" then, too. GreyC Edited 23 December , 2018 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 14 minutes ago, GreyC said: The address would have to be "von" then, too. Not so sure about the 'von' ; think of : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Gräfin_Dönhoff ... no 'von' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 (edited) Sorry, but since when do you believe in Wikipedia as a reliable source? The correct address is always "von". If you are of the same status or higher the omission of "von" is possible, as both are "von", just like doctors in Gemany address each other as "Herr" or "Frau" without title. GreyC Edited 23 December , 2018 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 (edited) Dear mva, Thanks for that. Yes, if (for example) Freiherr (Baron) von Richtofen had survived and married, his wife would have been Freifrau (Baroness) von Richthofen; and had they produced a daughter, she would have been Freiin (Baroness) von Richthofen! Kindest regards, Kim. Dear Prussian, Having said that, I am now inclined to agree with you that the word is actually 'Frau' - underlined by the fact that the Schlinks were not aristocratic. Nichts für ungut! Kindest regards, Kim. Edited 23 December , 2018 by Kimberley John Lindsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mva Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 1 hour ago, GreyC said: Sorry, but since when do you believe in Wikipedia as a reliable source? I rely to 50% on Wikip, but the name Marion Gräfin Dönhoff I know very well, without wikip, having read, e.g. "Namen, die keiner mehr nennt" - look here eg : http://www.eimsbuetteler-tonstudio.de/hoerbuch-seiten/hoerbuch29.html - or : https://www.zeit.de/2016/08/marion-graefin-doenhoff-hans-werner-sinn ; sie war ja Chefredakteurin der ZEIT .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 23 December , 2018 Share Posted 23 December , 2018 (edited) Hi, just because people do not adhere to protocol in this case (Dönhoff), doesn´t make it right or the norm, particularly not in view of the fact that the card to Frau Schlinck was written in a time in which theses things were still important and respected. Today they are not. With this I´d like to end the discussion around this point from my side. Merry Xmas. GreyC Edited 23 December , 2018 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 Jäger Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 Jäger with Ersatz felt helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 Jäger, before WW1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 On 23 December 2018 at 01:20, GreyC said: Hi, second to last photo shows the Dragoner Kaserne in Karlsruhe with roll call to inspect the horses. That´s what it says on the front and the stamp (Karlsruhe). The guy marked with an x is sender of the card. His name is Richard. So he is a soldier of 1. Badische Leib-Dragoner-Regiment Nr. 20. The building still exists. Backside a thank you note for mail received. Address is a very posh neighbourhood in Hamburg, Germany, to the wife of this guy (if you can read German): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Schlinck His product is still available today. GreyC Many thanks GreyC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 43 minutes ago, Cnock said: Jäger Cnock Hello! Tshako, guard-Litzen and brandenburg cuffs? strange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 Frontschwein with extra capacity magazine for his Gewehr 98 and trench knife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 Machine gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 (edited) On 10/04/2018 at 04:52, 4thGordons said: A new one: and a test for your eyes Chris I have been so busy with this and that that this was possibly / probably the last one I looked at here! So catching up to do and at the end I'll add some I picked up in Ankara, of all places - first decent ones I have seen ever on the Antique market here! Edited 24 December , 2018 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 On 29/05/2018 at 22:31, Sturmmann1918 said: Can anyone help me with some info on this one? I can't see any immediate reply and I am catching up on 6 months worth of posts here - if nobody has replied then I'll have a go later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 Hi Julian and all, for those with difficulty deciphering the back: The sender states that you can see the whole of MG company 3 of RIR14. Other than that he thanks the addressee for letter and parcel. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 (edited) With regard to the last photo (help requested) it might be a Bavarian fieldpost soldier.Need to check my books currently not at hand. Ask the Prussian for verification. GreyC Edited 24 December , 2018 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trajan Posted 24 December , 2018 Share Posted 24 December , 2018 On 23/12/2018 at 03:54, GWF1967 said: Anti mosquito nets? Bulgaria. They look awfully ike the funny hair-hemet-nets issued to Israeli army soldiers to prevent " a clear sniper shot to the head" - well, that's the explanation I have heard! Perhaps they are sniper head gear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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