michaeldr Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 John (Joe) Kelly married Maisie Kelly (same surname but not a relation) in Malta, in (I think) April 1915 Maisie Kelly was the sister of Frederick (Cleg) Kelly who was serving with the Hood Battalion, RND, at the Dardanelles at that time and who would go on to serve with the Hoods on the WF (killed at the Battle of the Ancre). Cleg Kelly was a famous rower, pianist and composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 I think it was Joe Kelly who gave his name to the HMS Kelly that Louis Mountbatten captained in the early part of WW2. She sank off Crete in 1941 and was the inspiration for 'In Which We Serve'. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 54 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: I think it was Joe Kelly who gave his name to the HMS Kelly that Louis Mountbatten captained in the early part of WW2. She sank off Crete in 1941 and was the inspiration for 'In Which We Serve'. Pete. I had not thought about that as a possible association. According to Fabulous Admirals another brother was killed in 1915, yet another brother became a general and there was at least one equally formidable sister. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 Cleg (Frederick Septimus) has definitely appeared on W.I.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rolt968 said: I had not thought about that as a possible association. According to Fabulous Admirals another brother was killed in 1915, yet another brother became a general and there was at least one equally formidable sister. RM RM It only occurred to me when I read JP's post back. It is confirmed (if you use the word loosely) on Wikipedia; of course the usual caveats apply. The entry about me being the inventor of the vacuum cleaner is clearly incorrect; Albert Electrolux's patent pre-dates mine by some months. The Kellys sound like a family of what we would now call over-achievers. A classic WiT? by the way; you could have chained me to a typewriter in the company of an infinite number of monkeys feeding me bananas and I still wouldn't have got it this side of the end of the universe. Pete. P.S. I help out at Everton's over 75's group occasionally (we have competitions, I give them a talk on a worthy subject and the last one to fall asleep wins a slice of swiss roll). My friend Eric was a matelot on board either HMS Roberts or Abercrombie after the late unpleasantness and met Mountbatten, he thinks the world of him. I must ask him about Noel Coward's portrayal in the movie. Edited 22 October , 2018 by Fattyowls apostrophe outrage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 Contra, I had a friend who met Mountbatten and couldn't stand him ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 12 minutes ago, seaJane said: Contra, I had a friend who met Mountbatten and couldn't stand him ... Marmite. I'm starting to doubt myself now as Eric either liked Mountbatten and really disliked another senior naval figure, or maybe it was the other way around. He's good value waxing lyrical about his life on the ocean wave so I'll ask him. Providing I can wake him up after talking about the origins of Merseyside place names that is. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 56 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: A classic WiT? by the way; you could have chained me to a typewriter in the company of an infinite number of monkeys feeding me bananas and I still wouldn't have got it this side of the end of the universe. Yes you would - this is how I found the Kelly bothers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_1931 I started at 31 December, worked back, and the Petersfield was the first HMS that I came to. That link led me to William and his link to John. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassenach Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 2 hours ago, Fattyowls said: I think it was Joe Kelly who gave his name to the HMS Kelly that Louis Mountbatten captained in the early part of WW2. She sank off Crete in 1941 and was the inspiration for 'In Which We Serve'. Pete. These days it would no doubt be referred to as "What we serve in," as in "They shall not grow old." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 22 October , 2018 Share Posted 22 October , 2018 1 hour ago, helpjpl said: Yes you would - this is how I found the Kelly bothers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_1931 I started at 31 December, worked back, and the Petersfield was the first HMS that I came to. That link led me to William and his link to John. JP That's because your clever, organised and methodical JP; unlike what I am. There wasn't much call for deductive reasoning down pit when I were a lad. However I am really pleased with your confidence in me, however misplaced. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 Who might this be??? Clue: Famous grandfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 Miss! Miss! , nf is smoking his funny stuff again😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 11 minutes ago, neverforget said: Who might this be??? Clue: Famous grandfather. That's easy! I thought to myself. 'Tis Alexander Yakovlev. But he was not born until 1906. So, as you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 8 minutes ago, Knotty said: Miss! Miss! , nf is smoking his funny stuff again😁 I haven't, but I'm pretty sure that he would have done so. Another hint would be C.E.F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 9 minutes ago, Uncle George said: That's easy! I thought to myself. 'Tis Alexander Yakovlev. But he was not born until 1906. So, as you were. Took a while for that one to sink in U.G. but I got there in the end 😊 His grandfather had a celebrated encounter with a well known blond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 Granddad: Oh come on! This is far too easy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 Allenby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 2 minutes ago, Knotty said: Allenby? No. In both cases, (grandson and grandfather) it's a case of "say what you see". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 I wonder who will get the feather in their cap for solving this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 2413310 Private Joseph Standing Buffalo, Kia September 29, 1918 Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment) Division:78th Battalion Date and Place of Birth:June 3, 1897 Indian Head, Saskatchewan, Canada Date and Place of Enlistment:June 11, 1917 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Cemetery: BUCQUOY ROAD CEMETERY; Pas de Calais, France Grave Reference:IV. B 34. Joseph Standing Buffalo was the grandson of Chief Sitting Bull of the famous battle of the Little Big Horn where 'General' George Custer (the blond) and his men were annihilated. He was the son of Julius Standing Buffalo, Chief of the Sioux Tribe of Indians, of Fort Qu'Appelle, Saskatchewan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 14 minutes ago, Knotty said: 2413310 Private Joseph Standing Buffalo, Kia September 29, 1918 Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment) Division:78th Battalion Date and Place of Birth:June 3, 1897 Indian Head, Saskatchewan, Canada Date and Place of Enlistment:June 11, 1917 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada Cemetery: BUCQUOY ROAD CEMETERY; Pas de Calais, France Grave Reference:IV. B 34. Joseph Standing Buffalo was the grandson of Chief Sitting Bull of the famous battle of the Little Big Horn where 'General' George Custer (the blond) and his men were annihilated. He was the son of Julius Standing Buffalo, Chief of the Sioux Tribe of Indians, of Fort Qu'Appelle, Saskatchewan. 100% spot on answer John. Nothing I can add to that.👍 https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Standing_Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 (edited) Now putting feather in cap, it was the last clue that gave me the inspiration “Sitting Bull” Sorry missed off that I used a site www.American-Tribes.com for the info. Edited 23 October , 2018 by Knotty Site information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 2 hours ago, Knotty said: Joseph Standing Buffalo was the grandson of Chief Sitting Bull of the famous battle of the Little Big Horn where 'General' George Custer (the blond) and his men were annihilated There is an interesting thread here http://amertribes.proboards.com/thread/2177/joseph-standing-buffalo-necropilis-france which, if I have understood it correctly, indicates that there is some debate about the veracity of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 Excellent find Michael. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 23 October , 2018 Share Posted 23 October , 2018 WIT? Not his namesake. (just photographed this myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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