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Remembered Today:

The Crimson Field - BBC drama series


NigelS

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"It's a bit unfair to freeze the recording, but the high-value postage stamps on the Right Honourable's box of bulbs were imperforate (presumably photocopies or scans cut to size) and today would be worth a great deal of money."

This is a good spot. They couldn't even be bothered to obtain tiny pinking scissors or similar to do the perforations - might they have called in Tetley technical specialists?

Is it illegal to photocopy stamps - even vintage ones?

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I think some countries may have a rule about reproducing stamps that are still valid, but there are countless images of older stamps on eBay and in dealers' on-line and printed catalogues.

And I did have to look very closely at the freezed (or should that be frozen?) frame - in fact frames, as I had to peer at quite a few to get a reasonable look!

I'm generously inclined to allow the TCF production team this one.

Moonraker

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I assume that the QM Sgt was wearing the right South African War medal ribbons.....

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I assumed that it would be dreadful, so haven't watched any of it but it's produced 653 comments on the forum and I feel excluded. Should I clamp a leather strop between my teeth, insert cocktail sticks between my eyelids and go for it or should I revel in the blissfulness of my iggerance?

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Might it be worth someone starting a thread on what they have got right?

Mike

The Cast Iron wood burner which stands in the Ward is actually a ' Petit Godin' .

The design hasn't changed since 1840 and I have one heating my living room !

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Yes ... but it is part of the BBC's Centenary works, so a little reality might be wise; additionally, it's rotten drama.

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there is a thing called a remote control I've not watched one as the first five minutes told me that it was not my cup of tea

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there is a thing called a remote control I've not watched one as the first five minutes told me that it was not my cup of tea

As Steven said, it's dressed up as part of the Centenary. We have also paid for the production as part of the BBC license fee, we can criticize if we please?

Mike

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The Cast Iron wood burner which stands in the Ward is actually a ' Petit Godin' .

The design hasn't changed since 1840 and I have one heating my living room !

Thanks! I'm listening to 'what they did right'! How about the medical equipment on the show and the layout of wards? Thumbs up or down? (Please be specific : )

~Ginger

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Just a couple of observations from Sundays episode. The Belgian Refugee got beaten up by young men from the village and the parcel was addressed to the Rt Honourable Rosalie Berwick. Spot the mistakes.

Michelle

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I don't know the circumstances of the Belgian Refugee in the program because I didn't see it, but the beating of a Belgian man in the UK would certainly be possible, from the beginning of the war there were issues with Belgian refugees taking employment and young fit Belgian men taking residence in the UK when it was thought they should have been serving in the Belgian Army. There were also concerns that German spies could be hidden amongst them.

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My point was that there were no young men left, it was all old men children and women.

Michelle

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Regarding this abysmal piece of television - imagine what the response would be were the BBC to have ste anything quite so banal in a Concentration Camp. The fact that the bright young things at the Corporation feel they can trivialise the Great War by shoddy research, shocking script-writing and some basic howling errors of costume design fills me with horror. I will continue to criticise this pile of horse manure as long as I feel like.
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No one is being forced to read this thread or to respond to it, if you are then I'm sure Esther Rantzen has a helpline for you.

Exactly the same point applies to those who can't resist watching this programme.

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The Belgian refugee was being beaten up in a French village, not in the UK.

Or have I missed some important fact?

Martin

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There's nothing wrong with commenting on or criticising the programme - but can we please do so without drifitng into off-topic nonsense? Skindles is the place for that....

Thanks

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There is another drama running concurrently on BBC2 called GENERATION WAR, which is supposed to depict the horrors of the Second World War from the German point of view.

This too features the experience of nurses trying to cope with things - this time it's the Russian Front, in circumstances which make the hospital of the Crimson Field seem tame by comparison.

I wonder if there are German people reacting in the same way to this as the Pals are - by and large - to the CF.

Phil (PJA)

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There is another drama running concurrently on BBC2 called GENERATION WAR, which is supposed to depict the horrors of the Second World War from the German point of view.

This too features the experience of nurses trying to cope with things - this time it's the Russian Front, in circumstances which make the hospital of the Crimson Field seem tame by comparison.

I wonder if there are German people reacting in the same way to this as the Pals are - by and large - to the CF.

Phil (PJA)

It's certainly a powerful drama, it has 'oomph' that the 'the 'The Crimson Field' doesn't, and possibly, because of some of the more sensitive issue covered, couldn't have been made until now, and I suspect it might well be ruffling a few feathers; I can't pass comment on either reality of the storyline or the technical aspects, but I'm not watching it for that - plus the fact that having to read sub-titles doesn't allow for too much time to study the finer points of uniforms, weapons and props etc!

NigelS

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The Belgian refugee was being beaten up in a French village, not in the UK.

Or have I missed some important fact?

Martin

See Michelle's post 666 (gulp!)

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In 'A Nurse at the Front' Edith Appleton relates an incident from No.3 Casualty Clearing Station in 1915. There were so many wounded and dead, and an orderly was trying to sort them for burial according to religion etc. 'Then he found a fresh difficulty - one man, who he thought was an officer, had nothing to mark him as such. 'And 'ow am I to bury. 'im? As a' officer - or man?' Sister said, 'Surely they all get buried the same?' 'No they don't,' said the bewildered corporal, 'Men is 'ammered - officers is screwed.' Poor sister, who was worn out as well as everyone else, suddenly went hysterical and laughed and laughed ...

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Well no one said it was a Belgian village.

The Belgian refugee was being beaten up in a French village, not in the UK.

Or have I missed some important fact?

Martin

Well no one said it was a Belgian village, I can only work with what I have been given.

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It's very plausible that the character of Sister Livesey did have a German boyfriend.

In episode one when the nasty, mean Sister questioned whether Sister Livesey was actually a 'Sister', she replied that she had trained and worked in the 'Liverpool Royal Infirmary'.

At that time there was a large German community living in the Brownlow Hill area, not far from Pembroke Place where the old Royal Infirmary stands.

In the mid 19 century there was a large influx of German workers to Liverpool who came to work in the Sugar refining industry . These workers stayed and married into the local community so by the time of the Great War there would have been a second generation of German descent.

In my husband's family there was a Great Uncle who served and survived with the 'King's Liverpool Regiment' who still had German Grandparents in Liverpool.

Also Sister Livesey's German boyfriend could have been visiting relatives in Liverpool as did Adolf Hitler who came to visit his half brother in 1912/1913 ( Allegedly).

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