GWF1967 Posted 27 March , 2023 Share Posted 27 March , 2023 12 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: They are Junior Division Officer Training Corps, or possibly sponsored army cadet corps depending upon the status of their school. Their badge appears to be based on a shield and if we know the photographers location it ought to be possible to identify it. Photoghaph by "Stickells & Son, Cranbrook" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 27 March , 2023 Share Posted 27 March , 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Photoghaph by "Stickells & Son, Cranbrook" Brilliant, Cranbrook School OTC then, a famous establishment. See: https://www.oldcranbrookians.com/CadetForce Still going strong now. @GWF1967 I see that the old school association doesn’t have a copy of your photo and there’s a distinct gap between 1905 images and 1920. I imagine the school would love a digital copy of your image. Edited 27 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 8 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Brilliant, Cranbrook School OTC then, a famous establishment. See: https://www.oldcranbrookians.com/CadetForce Still going strong now. @GWF1967 I see that the old school association doesn’t have a copy of your photo and there’s a distinct gap between 1905 images and 1920. I imagine the school would love a digital copy of your image. Many thanks once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Many thanks once again. I’m glad to help, I wonder if those two boys ended up on the school’s Roll of Honour / Sacrifice. Edited 28 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poona guard Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 Great photo and definitely a family group. Dad has cloth titles suggesting with the cap badge a a volunteer unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 22 minutes ago, poona guard said: Great photo and definitely a family group. Dad has cloth titles suggesting with the cap badge a a volunteer unit. Could be Labour Corps too unless the size of the cloth title dictates otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 A few randoms from my collection I just found. A wounded Light Infantryman wearing unusual warm clothing. Is this official or something privately purchased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Raster Scanning said: A few randoms from my collection I just found. A wounded Light Infantryman wearing unusual warm clothing. Is this official or something privately purchased? He’s wearing “hospital blue” Raster. They were blue woollen flannel uniforms first issued during the Crimean War and not much changed subsequently other than in the length of the upper garment. They were issued in a limited range of sizes and had a white cotton lining that showed at the lapel and where shorter soldiers turned up their arms and legs. They were generally accompanied with a white shirt and bright red tie. He’s also wearing issued leather hospital slippers. Edited 28 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 An older gentleman wearing the uniform of a home service establishment of some sort. I would appreciate an understanding of the uniform and the medal ribbon if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 2 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: He’s wearing “hospital blue” Raster. They were blue woollen flannel uniforms first issued during the Crimean War and not much changed subsequently other than in the length of the upper garment. Thanks very much. I was aware of the Hospital Blue and in fact have a few of the matching red ties in my collection I just thought this looked a bit 'fatter, like it was padded. On closer look I guess he is just wearing thick clothes underneath. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Raster Scanning said: An older gentleman wearing the uniform of a home service establishment of some sort. I would appreciate an understanding of the uniform and the medal ribbon if possible. This time it’s an officer (probably a doctor) of the British Red Cross society, I believe. Note the cuff rings rank marking worn with khaki service dress. “In 1909 the British Red Cross Society became involved in the VAD scheme. It was decided that volunteers should wear an official uniform to reflect this role. In 1911 a uniform sub-committee recommended the adoption of a standard uniform ‘having regard to economy, utility and the practical duties the Red Cross detachment would be required to perform on mobilisation’.” “The men’s uniform consisted of a blue tunic, breeches, wrap around leggings called ‘putties’ and a peaked cap. A greatcoat with the Red Cross emblem sewn on the breast was worn outdoors. At the outbreak of the First World War this uniform was issued to Red Cross volunteers in standard British army drab khaki.” Edited 28 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 Three cards of The Hampshire Regiment in India I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Raster Scanning said: Thanks very much. I was aware of the Hospital Blue and in fact have a few of the matching red ties in my collection I just thought this looked a bit 'fatter, like it was padded. On closer look I guess he is just wearing thick clothes underneath. Thanks again Yes I was going to add that he appears to have layered clothing beneath (probably a woollen cardigan). Notice the similarly bulky appearance of these convalescents below. Nurses encouraged outdoor activity but fussed to make sure men were warmly dressed and did not “catch a chill” which was widely considered back then. The emphasis was much more upon personal care in the absence of antibiotics and penicillin. Reliance was placed on human antibodies and rest. Edited 28 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 2 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: This time it’s an officers of the British Red Cross society I believe. Thanks I guessed there was a medical connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Raster Scanning said: Three cards of The Hampshire Regiment in India I guess. Cracking photos, the Wolseley helmet flashes suggest the 5th Battalion Hampshire Regiment (Territorial Force). From the ‘wartime memories project’: “5th Battalion, Hampshire Regiment was a unit of the Territorial Force, serving with the Hampshire Infantry Brigade, Wessex Division. They had their HQ at Carlton Place, Southampton and was made up of Companies A to H. They were part of the Hampshire Brigade, Wessex Division. Just before war broke out in August 1914 the units of the Division gathered on Salisbury Plain for their annual summer camp and ordered arrived for precautionary measures to be taken. On the 3rd of August they broke camp and moved to take up defensive positions at the ports. The division was mobilised for full time war service on the 5th of August and by the 10th had returned to Salisbury Plain to prepare for service overseas. The Wessex Division was ordered to India to replace British and Indian regular army units who were to be deployed to the Western Front. They sailed from Southampton on the 19th of October, via Malta and Suez, arriving at Karachi on the 11th of November. They remained in India throughout the war. In May 1919 they joined 46th Mobile Indian Brigade at Kohat and saw action in Third Afghan War for a brief period. They returned to England arriving at Southampton on the 8th of November 1919.” Edited 28 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 I believe this is Gallipoli and the caption states "Building a hospital" At least one man appears to be RAMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 1 minute ago, FROGSMILE said: Cracking photos, the Wolseley helmet flashes suggest the 5th Battalion Hampshire Regiment (Territorial Force). In the last one I love the carelessly discarded helmets to the right of the group. One on the ground another in the bushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 Just now, Raster Scanning said: In the last one I love the carelessly discarded helmets to the right of the group. One on the ground another in the bushes. Territorials, God bless ‘em… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 Two ASC Territorial Bandsmen, sadly I cannot make out the curved part of the shoulder title. I suspect this is a pre war annual camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 An informal group of Bedfordshire Yeomanry men at camp along with assorted tack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Raster Scanning said: Two ASC Territorial Bandsmen, sadly I cannot make out the curved part of the shoulder title. I suspect this is a pre war annual camp. Looks like T-ASC-CORNWALL to me, but my phone screen is limiting. Note the Boy Entrant peeking from behind the bandmaster just beyond the tent, and the band sergeant is seated on the left. Two SNCOs were allocated to share a tent whereas a ‘warrant officer’ (regular and special reserve only then) had a tent to themselves. @CorporalPunishmentmight well be able to see better the title better. I agree it’s almost certainly a prewar annual summer camp. Edited 28 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Raster Scanning said: An informal group of Bedfordshire Yeomanry men at camp along with assorted tack. An evocative photo, again taken at camp. Notice the leather gaiters issued instead of puttees and another Boy Entrant seated far right. Edited 28 March , 2023 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 1 minute ago, FROGSMILE said: An evocative photo, again taken at camp. Notice the leather gaiters issued instead of puttees and another Boy Entrant seated far right. Some unusual (at least to me) footwear in the second row from front? 3 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: An evocative photo, again taken at camp. Notice the leather gaiters issued instead of puttees and another Boy Entrant seated far right. Good to see some 'in the flesh' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 4 minutes ago, Raster Scanning said: Some unusual (at least to me) footwear in the second row from front? Being carried piggyback on the right, I assume. He appears to be wearing long stockings tucked over his breeches and leather soled slip on, full foot slippers of some kind. Not an issue pattern I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 28 March , 2023 Share Posted 28 March , 2023 5 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Being carried piggyback on the right, I assume. He appears to be wearing long stockings tucked over his breeches and leather soled slip on, full foot slippers of some kind. Not an issue pattern I think. Yes that's the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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