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Collar badges on SD jacket collars.


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Notts and Derby 02 Tunic with two pleats and collars worn post WW1.

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5th Kings Liverpool an unusual collar badge!

Epaulette badges worn as collar badges is not uncommon when worn on Kitchener blue uniforms, which didn't always have epaulettes. But seeing them worn like that on ordinary SD which clearly does have them is certainly odd, especially as the Trench Cap puts this as 1916 or later... :blink:

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I have posted this before I think but here's a picture that covers several bases mentioned in this thread.

Clearly postwar group of veteran sgts. some with collar badges some not, all with cloth HD Divisional patches and some intriguing shoulder titles that look to be T (something other than a number) Gordon and in 3 parts?

Lots of other badges too if Grumpy is around.

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wee woo!

thanks, a very rare LG without wreath as issued to TA post-war .......... tiny badge left cuff. Right flank man sitting.

The collars/ no collars might be TA/ Regulars distinction?

seated right flank to left:sgt MM BWM VM, ist class LG shot; sgt MM, trio; sgt BWM VM; sgt asst instr sigs, trio.

rear: c-sgt TA with efficiency stars, trio; ? MM, BWM VM,; sgt attached, Lincs regt?;, BWM VM, sgt ??; CSM trio, wondering why he is not seated ........!!!!!

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You can add the 6th Bn Royal Scots Fusiliers....am travelling but will post photo (grandfather James Maxwell) on return to UK.

MG

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Update of Infantry REGIMENTS known to have had at least one battalion [often a TF or Service battalion] wearing collar badges in the Great War in one order of dress or another.

Use of a collar badge of some sort [often a shoulder title in gilding metal] was surprisingly common in the war period.

In no particular order, and not distinguishing between SD or 'Kitchener Blues', the following REGIMENTS have been noted above as having a collar badge for at least one of their battalions:

E Surrey
Essex
NF
Herts
Cheshire
Kings Liverpool
Buffs
DLI
RF
Inn. F
Welsh
KOYLI
MG Guards
Leicester
Ox and Bucks
Y&L
W Yks
Yorks
9th Suffolk and at least one other Suffolk

Queen's

KSLI

Cameronians

and, of course, Pioneer battalions of almost all regiments.

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Here are another couple of examples.

Two Kitchener men (6th Londons, perhaps?) wearing collar dogs. No names or photographer, I'm afraid.

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And here's a Suffolk man (un-named, photo taken in Brighton, so not 9th Suffolk?):

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I also have several examples of ASC men in France during 1915/16 wearing collar badges.

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Thank you, so more than 9th Suffolk for the list

Apologies, it looks like I led you up the garden path there - the 9th Suffolks WERE in Brighton, so looks like my man was in fact 9/Suffolks. Sorry! And what do you make of the 2 Kitchener men that I posted in post#58 - with the 'grenade' collars?

Here's a few more:

8th Y&L, sometime during May-Aug 1915

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West Yorks, in the UK just before joining 2/West Yorks in France, early 1918 (he was a Drummer, I'm not sure if that's relevant)

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Infantry REGIMENTS known to have had at least one battalion wearing collar badges in the Great War in one order of dress or another.

On that basis, does this sort of thing count? (photo taken May 1916)

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He was in the A&SH, of course.

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What about Yeomanry/Cavalry units?

MIC's show this man as being North Devon Yeomanry in 1915, but this was taken in the UK in 1917 and although the collars looks right I'm not 100% certain about his cap badge (looks a little too big for the typical NDY badge - was there a 2nd version consisting of intertwined letters?):

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Note that he's carrying a revolver.

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Are you interested in the Corps?

I have several images (both in the UK and in France) of ASC men wearing collar badges. Here are 3 from different periods - all confirmed ASC rather than colonial versions of the same:

1915

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1916 (taken in Waltham Cross)

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1917 (taken in Leeds - note the 'solid' cap badge)

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Some more cavalry.....

17th Lancers, on leave in 1918:

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8th Hussars, on leave in July 1915:

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Here's an interesting one; he's confirmed RAMC attd Scottish Horse, badged as Scottish Horse:

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Royal Welsh Fusiliers bandsman, photo taken in Cairo in 1918, haven't checked his medal roll details but probably 6th Garrison battalion:

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9th (Reserve) Argyll & Sutherlands, probably taken early 1915:

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ASC again, photo taken in the UK in 1915:

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The next 2 are RAMC (presumably pre-war TF?)

taken November 1914:

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a member of 88th Field Ambulance, taken early 1915:

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ASC again, photo taken in the UK in 1915:

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The next 2 are RAMC (presumably pre-war TF?)

taken November 1914:

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a member of 88th Field Ambulance, taken early 1915:

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Particularly like the last two RAMC men, one in home service frock with cord shoulder straps and the other in full-dress tunic with TF shoulder titles. Unusual to see side-by-side like that. Thank you for posting them.

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Particularly like the last two RAMC men, one in home service frock with cord shoulder straps and the other in full-dress tunic with TF shoulder titles. Unusual to see side-by-side like that. Thank you for posting them.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I hadn't really noticed to be honest. Would the home service frock indicate anything regarding his service, or is it just a Kitchener volunteer affectation? The cuffs (not visible in the cropped image) have the same 'Austrian knot' design as the full-dress tunic. I didn't look too closely at the photo initially. I now notice that he's wearing what appears to be a Police issue 1911 Coronation ribbon (at which point he would have been only 18 years old).

Here's another RAMC man (a bandsman, of course) with collar badges (apologies for the shaky image - the photographer must have been a bit nervous). He was serving with "Provisional Co., RAMC" at Aldershot when this photo was taken (July 1915) and he appears to be wearing a similar frock with collar badges, but he has a pale cap band and an unusual belt-buckle - or is he wearing a St. John's Ambulance uniform?

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I just love the RWF bandsman ....... superb!

Forum member Lars has very kindly informed me that this man served with 2/Garr Bn, RWF, elements of which relieved 6/Garr Bn RWF at Cairo just after the armistice. I tried to send you a copy of the full photo (rather than the crop that I posted on this thread) but your in-box is full, apparently...!

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