Cnock Posted 26 August , 2005 Share Posted 26 August , 2005 How must Emma MC DOWELL have felt? I sincerely hope that she was a strong woman. Cnock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 26 August , 2005 Share Posted 26 August , 2005 I wonder if any strength would be enough to bear this double burden. It is frustrating not to know what happend to them all! Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 27 August , 2005 Share Posted 27 August , 2005 DOZINGHEM MIL CEM Gunner Joseph HATCHER, 144th Siege Bty, +6/11/1917 WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT PAIN HE BORE WE ONLY KNOW HE NOBLY FELL AND COULDN'T SAY GOODBYE Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 28 August , 2005 Author Share Posted 28 August , 2005 Yes, thinking of Emma and her burden. What an enormous weight of grief this dreadful conflict produced. Thanks to those who left us these inscriptions that pass down to us a memory of the texture of that grief and loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF Kelly Posted 28 August , 2005 Share Posted 28 August , 2005 Private Morrissey came from Kilkenny and is buried in Cabaret Rouge Souchez. The inscription reads " HE DIED FOR ENGLANDS GLORY AWAY FROM ERIN'S ISLE" . I've always found that sad. Does anyone recognise the quotation? I've been told it may be from a song or poem current at the time but maybe his parents or relatives composed it themselves. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Bull Posted 12 September , 2005 Share Posted 12 September , 2005 en niemand schrikt meer wakker in de nacht, en niemand vreest nog voor een nieuwe morgen <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fabrice What does this mean in English - sorry I am a poor linguist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Bull Posted 12 September , 2005 Share Posted 12 September , 2005 Steve is right about the payment. 'Debts' were not vigourously chased and after a while the charges became voluntary. During WW2 all charges were voluntary. However, it certainly was a barrier for some n-o-k early in the process as the charge was significant. It was partly instituted so that the n-o-k would feel an increased 'ownership' of the grave. Hardly necessary, I would have thought. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Terry Was there any charge after WW2? It is my impression that gravestone inscriptions from relatives are much more common on WW2 gravestones, which I assume is either down to it being free to have such an inscription or to greater prosperity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 12 September , 2005 Share Posted 12 September , 2005 Another consideration must be that more people were literate in the late 1940s. Many WW1 epitaphs were lost opportunities simply because the next of kin could not read or write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plummed Goose Posted 12 September , 2005 Share Posted 12 September , 2005 "How lucky all you UK folks are being so close to battlefields!!! " Yes we are ... but our ancestors weren't ... Eric (A Belgian in Turkey) PS : Belgium has the MOST battlefields per square km ... subsequently the civilians have suffered alot as well in the last 2000 years ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plummed Goose Posted 12 September , 2005 Share Posted 12 September , 2005 en niemand schrikt meer wakker in de nacht, en niemand vreest nog voor een nieuwe morgen And nobody wakes up terrified anymore in the middle of the night and nobody is frightened any longer of a new morning eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plummed Goose Posted 12 September , 2005 Share Posted 12 September , 2005 en niemand schrikt meer wakker in de nacht, en niemand vreest nog voor een nieuwe morgen And nobody wakes up terrified anymore in the middle of the night and nobody is frightened any longer of a new morning eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Bull Posted 13 September , 2005 Share Posted 13 September , 2005 Thanks to Eric for the translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plummed Goose Posted 22 September , 2005 Share Posted 22 September , 2005 A few ... just a few from Gallipoli. CASTLE Private George Philip, 2nd Battalion, AIF. Lone Pine Cemetery At Rest COLLETT Private Henry, 24th Battalion, AIF. Lone Pine Cemetery Could I Just Clasp Your Hand Once More Just To Say, Well Done COOLING Sergeant William Henry, 26th Battalion, AIF. Embarkation Pier Cemetery Peace Perfect Peace GORMAN Private Thomas Ernest Tasman, 12th Battalion, AIF. Shrapnel Valley Cemetery Elsewhere HECHLE Private George, 13th Battalion, AIF. Beach Cemetery Deeds Not Words LOWNDES Trooper Edward Whitaker, 3rd Light Horse Regiment, AIF. Beach Cemetery Well Done Ted NEWTON Sergeant Roland, 14th Battalion, AIF. Courtney's & Steel's Post Cemetery Our Anzac PETTIGREW Private Angus George, 14th Battalion, AIF. Courtney's & Steel's Post Cemetery Special Memorial 34. He Heard The Call Stood The Test. He Died A Hero, One Of The Best SMITH Private Thomas, 9th Battalion, AIF. Shell Green Cemetery His Country Called He Answered STRANG Private William Andrew, 10th Battalion, AIF. Shrapnel Valley Cemetery Some Day We Will Understand Jonathan the one at shell green is for CONNETT Private Herman Oswald, 11th Battalion, AIF and goes : Our Daddy Died For Britain And Us I was there today ... walking .... agaaaiin ... cheers eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 22 September , 2005 Share Posted 22 September , 2005 Jonathan the one at shell green is for CONNETT Private Herman Oswald, 11th Battalion, AIF and goes : Our Daddy Died For Britain And Us I was there today ... walking .... agaaaiin ... cheers eric <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes I visited Herman a couple times when I last visited - was my RBL cross still there (I dont suppose many Turkish children visit Shell Green). His service record is online on the AWM link. The children were Frederick (who claimed his father's Gallipoli Star in 1967) and Olive. His widow's was Christina and Herman was born in Cumberland in the north-west of England. Have a look at his record. http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 22 September , 2005 Share Posted 22 September , 2005 Loved the 'clasp your hand, well done' epitaph. Lovely. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 23 September , 2005 Author Share Posted 23 September , 2005 Yes Marina. I also like "Well Done Ted". I wonder if those that inscribed "died for Britain " would now modify it to end "and Australia". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 23 September , 2005 Share Posted 23 September , 2005 Never thought of that. I wonder... Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 23 September , 2005 Share Posted 23 September , 2005 Kaere Son Vi Modes Snaert Dear Son, we'll meet soon. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plummed Goose Posted 23 September , 2005 Share Posted 23 September , 2005 Thanks Marina, And would that be Danish or ... Indeed some were more "australialistic" LAWRENCE Trooper Jack Warren, 6th Light Horse Regiment, AIF. Shell Green Cemetery A True Australian Patriot MILLS Private Thomas Hamlyn, 24th Battalion, AIF. Lone Pine Cemetery He Died To Save Australia Our Anzac Hero And some more "idealistic" SCOTT Corporal George Phillip, 14th Battalion, AIF. Quinn's Post Cemetery For Democracy TAYLOR Private John Low, 24th Battalion, AIF. Lone Pine Cemetery I.C.34. He Died For Freedom cheers eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark f Posted 23 September , 2005 Share Posted 23 September , 2005 A quote from a headstone I was tracing in Belguim (Bedford House Cemetary). The poor soldier was a cousin of my Granddad. "REST DEAR SON THY BATTLE WON WE SHALL MEET AGAIN BELOVED ONE" I have a few photos of Bedford House and Tyne Cot if anyone is interested. They are digital and a high resolution. Too big to put on this forum but happy to email. Mark Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted 23 September , 2005 Share Posted 23 September , 2005 Life is a city of crooked streets. Death is the market place where all souls meet. Quite enigmatic, it was (from memory wish I'd photographed it) on a headstone in Zillebeek Churchyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 24 September , 2005 Share Posted 24 September , 2005 Life is a city of crooked streets. Death is the market place where all souls meet. Quite enigmatic, it was (from memory wish I'd photographed it) on a headstone in Zillebeek Churchyard. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is an interesting one - the more I think about it, the more I lilke it. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted 25 September , 2005 Share Posted 25 September , 2005 That is an interesting one - the more I think about it, the more I lilke it. Marina <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've done a bit of googling on the quote and it comes from the gravestone of John Gadsden in 1739 in a Buckinghamshire Churchyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marina Posted 25 September , 2005 Share Posted 25 September , 2005 I've done a bit of googling on the quote and it comes from the gravestone of John Gadsden in 1739 in a Buckinghamshire Churchyard. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks, Pooter. Marina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 27 September , 2005 Share Posted 27 September , 2005 Kleine Vierstraat British cem L/C Harry BROWNE, kia 24/4/1918 - age 50 he gave his life where it was needed most, one fearless soldier of a glorious host Regards, Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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