German names from Wolf's book

[Michael Lowrey]

Karl Neumann, born December 14, 1891, entered service October 1911, Leutnant zur See der Reserve September 16, 1916 and not to be confused with the well-known U-boat commander of the same name that commanded submarines out of Austria in 1918 (this guy: https://uboat.net/wwi/men/commanders/219.html)

The more junior Karl Neumann had a weird career path during the war, attending submarine school and then serving as the WO on UB 33 out of Flanders in 1917 and getting off that boat just before it was sunk, then on Schwaben, before coming to Goeben in September or October 1918 to the end of the war.

Out of service January 16, 1919. German decoration in early 1918 is just the EK2. Also likely to have gotten a U-boat War Badge at a later date.

[Michael Lowrey]

Konrad Neid, born February 3, 1885, entered service April 1, 1903, Obertorpeder (warrant officer rank) April 22, 1909, Torpeder-Leutnant likely in late 1914, Torpeder-Oberleutnant June 10, 1916. Sonderkommando Türkei August or September 1914 to June 1917.

Promoted to Torpeder-Kapitänleutnant March 1, 1920. Out of service on March 8, 1920 when he becomes a civil servant with the navy. 

German decorations in August 1916 are the EK1 and the Dienstauszeichnung 3rd Class; same in early 1918.

Edited 25 April by Michael Lowrey

[Michael Lowrey]

Emil Natz, born March 14, 1887, entered service October 2, 1911, Leutnant der Reserve der Matrosenartillerie November 15, 1913, Oberleutnant der Reserve der Matrosenartillerie May 13, 1916. Natz was in theater the entire war:

Wit the Sonderkommando Türkei to October 1916, then naval group in Constanza to May 1917, then back to the Sonderkommando Türkei for the rest of the war.

Out of service January 21, 1920. German decoration in early 1918 is just the EK2.

 

 

[Michael Lowrey]

Gerhard Neuhaus, born September 27, 1871, entered service January 1892, Marine-Stabsingenieur September 19, 1912, Marine-Oberstabsingenieur April 28, 1918. Neuhaus was Goeben’s chief engineer from May 1915 to the end of the war.

Promoted to Fregattenkapitän (I) on April 1, 1921. Out of service on June 30, 1921.

German decorations are the Order of the Crown 4th Class and the Dienstauszeichnungskreuz prewar, the EK2 and Oldenburg’s Friedrich August Kreuz 2nd Class by August 1916 and the EK1 and the Friedrich August Kreuz 1st Class by early 1918.

 

[Glenn J]

7 hours ago, Michael Lowrey said:

Torpeder-Leutnant likely in late 1914,

Obertorpeder Konrad Neid was commissioned on 20 May 1914. The 1914 naval Rangliste was effective as at 12 May, so he just missed being included in that as a commissioned officer. On being assigned to the Sonderkommando, he was granted the Ottoman army rank of a 1st Lieutenant. His rank on transfer to official status was that of a Marine-Ingenieur. He returned to active officer status in thirties. The 1936 naval list shows him as a Korvettenkapitän (W), (1.10.35) on the staff of the fortress commander Wilhelmshaven. He was promoted to Kapitän zur See (W) on 1.4.40. 

Died 8 August 1964.

Regards

Glenn

Edited 25 April by Glenn J

[Glenn J]

9 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Neinke    Lt    Group Signals officer Military Mediterranean Division MMD

That is Leutnant zur See Curt HEINKE. We discussed this chap in another contribution to this thread a while back:

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/309279-german-names-from-wolfs-book/page/8/#comment-3284152

Born 24 April 1888, crew of 09. Promoted to Oberleutnant zur See on 2 May 1915. SMS Goeben and principal fleet radio telegraphy officer of the MMD. In October 1916 on UB 7 where he is killed in action.

Regards

Glenn

[emrezmen]

Photo of the officer I believe is Natz (on the right). It was taken at Fort Hamidiye one or two days after 18 March. Location, his rank (Turkish 1st Lt.) and the heavy artillery badge on his collar give a clue as to his identity. On the left is a captain, probably Herschel.

Edited 25 April by emrezmen

[stevenbecker]

Cheers mates again nice pick up Glenn

Michael, he was lucky, not to be lost on UB 33, not so bad for Richard Maaß and Fritz Vanselow, who ever replaced him?

Todays

Nickelhausen     LtzS Marine    Flag Officer Military Mediterranean Division MMD    1915-    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 
 

Nickels Julius    LtzS to Kapt-Lt d.S Marine    Commander Ottoman Destroyer "Tasoz" RTG 1917 returned to Commander Depot ship "General" 1918    1916-17 1918-    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Nicolai     ObLt    unknown    unknown    shown in Klaus Wolf's Book

Nicolaus (Nikolaus) Karl    KaptzS (Maj) Marine    Admirals Stabsoffizier Military Mediterranean Division MMD Navy HQ     1914-15    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Maybe you can sort out the dates for this bloke?

Nicolai (Nikolai) August     Maj to LtCol (Col)    Deutsche Militär-Mission in der Türkei - CO 3rd Div (15th Corps) at Kum Kale Dardanelles 4-15 to 7-15 to CO 2nd Corps to Artillery inspector Ottoman 4th Army to duputy commander 16th Corps replaced by Kannengiesser - 3. Tümen komutani 2.Kolordu komutani 4.Ordu Müfettisi (3rd Division Commander 2nd Corps Commander 4th Army Inspector)    1913-18    (1873 to 1947 or Born 31-12-1868) died 1941) RTG to Artillery Western Front 1918 post war returned as Intell Officer 1924 retired Gen-Maj (not identified)? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book
 

Edited 25 April by stevenbecker

[Michael Lowrey]

Julius Nickels, born June 18, 1867, entered service October 1, 1889, Kapitänleutnant der Seewehr I. May 11, 1907. The Ehrenrangliste doesn't seem to show the first period in theater but is listed as the detachment head of General from July/August 1916 to the war’s end. 

Out of service July 29, 1919. German decorations as of early 1918 are the EK2 and the Landwehrdienstauszeichnung 1st Class.

[Glenn J]

20 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Nicolaus (Nikolaus) Karl    KaptzS (Maj) Marine 

Not sure what to make of this at all! No naval officer of that name, never mind an Admirals' staff officer. Heaven knows where that one came from? Nothing remotely nearing that name in a staff position with the MMD or Sonderkommando.

Regards

Glenn

 

[Glenn J]

20 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Nicolai (Nikolai) August     Maj to LtCol (Col)

Major Georg Friedrich August Nicolai, born 31 December 1861. A Saxon field artillery officer on the staff of Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr.  64. Officially retired from the Saxon army with the Charakter of an Oberstleutnant on 8 December 1913 and was a original member of the Liman mission with the Ottoman rank of colonel. Patent as a  Saxon Oberstleutnant on 1.12.14 and promoted to Oberst on 17.1.16 . Certainly back in the West in 1917 as Artillery Commander (ARKO) 241. Retired 24 March 1919 and Charakter as a Generalmajor on 28 November 1919. Died 25 January 1941.

Regards

Glenn

[Glenn J]

20 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Nickelhausen     LtzS Marine    Flag Officer Military Mediterranean Division MMD

Another hideous and ridiculous entry! In fact Oberleutnant zur See Alfons Wichelhausen, born 24 April 1885. Crew of 1906 With the MMD as  Flaggleutnant until September 1916. Promoted to Kapitänleutnant on 27.1.17 and left naval service on 1 January 1920. And most likely also the non-existent Nikolaus. 

Regards

Glenn 

[stevenbecker]

Mates, again nice pick up, the Nicolai name also throw me?

I had thought Nikolaus maybe this bloke, but who knows with Wolf/translator

Rohde Karl Nikolaus    KaptzS (Maj) Marine    CoCommander (replaced von Arnim sick) Ottoman Battleship  "Barbaros Hayrettin" (Barbaros Hayreddin) supported defence of Dardanelles 4-15 to Commander Naval Shore Det Naval MG Sects Marine-Landungsabteilung on Gallipoli 5-15 to Stab Military Mediterranean Division MMD    1914-16    Kaiserliche Marine RTG illness 1916 awarded EK I 7-15 (not identified)? shown in book by Klaus Wolf

Wolf does have that bloke, and what I found on him;

Wichelhausen Alfons Ludwig Kaspar    ObLtzS Marine    SMS Goeben (Yavuz) - Admiral (starboard) Officer (sancak) Subayi (Admiral (sancak) Subasi) - Flag officer to Admiral Souchon 1914    1914-16    (born 1885 died 1963) Kaiserliche Marine to Kapt-Lt awarded EK I 11-15 shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Todays I hope are not the same?

Nielsen    ObLt    VzFeuerwerker Munitionsfachkundigen &  die Munitionsräumung (EOD) - Ordnance Mathematician in the Armaments office     1915-16    shown in Klaus Wolf's Book

Niemöller Max    Lt (Maj)    Deutsche Militär-Mission in der Türkei - Coal officer Ottoman GHQ Genel Kurmayda kömür isleri baskani (Chief of General Staff coal ministry) Kömür saglama dairesi Baskani (Coal supply station Head) - shown Head Coal Ottoman GHQ 1-18     1915-18    (not identified)? to many to check? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book

Nillrich     Stabsarzt Dr Marine    Stabsarzt (Medical officer) of the Torpedo Boat Flotilla and Head of the Polyclinic to RMO depot ship "Olga" captured Russian ship "Koroleva Olga" 29-10-14 served during the war under the name of "Vourla" (or Urla)    1915-    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Nitzsche Martin    Kapt-Lt (Maj) Marine    Military Mediterranean Division MMD - Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando Coastal Artillery) Hamidiye redoubt commander of artillery 1915 to staff of the army in Dardanelles     1915-17    Kaiserliche Marine awarded EK II 12-15 & EK I 1-16 (not identified)? mentioned in Klaus Wolf's Book 
 

There was this man but you found him under Hiltmann

Niltmann (see Hiltmann)    Assistenzarzt Dr Marine    Assistenzarzt RMO Naval Shore Det on Gallipoli    1915-16    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 
 

 

[Michael Lowrey]

Martin Nitzsche, November 8, 1883, Crew 1900,  Kapitänleutnant March 22, 1910, Korvettenkapitän October 29, 1918. June or July 1915 commands the forts Anatoli Hamidie, then chief of staff of the commander of the Dardanelles, then staff officer to the commander of the higher command in charge of the straits.

Returns to Germany to become a submarine commander: https://uboat.net/wwi/men/commanders/228.html

Out of service November 22, 1919. German decorations in early 1918 are the EK1. A U-boat War Badge at some later date would be expected.

Died August 25, 1944.

[Michael Lowrey]

Karl-Nicolaus Rohde, born December 6, 1879, Crew 1898, Korvettenkapitän January 27, 1915. Staff officer, Mittelmeerdivision from December 1914 or January 1915 to June 1915, when he assumes command of the Marine-Landungsabteilung Gallipoli  to October 1915, when he return to being a staff officer with the Mittelmeerdivision through December 1916, when he returns to Germany.

Out of service January 28, 1919. German decorations by August 1916 is the EK1 plus a prewar Order of the Red Eagle, 4th Class. No change by early 1918.

[Michael Lowrey]

Not sure this is the Nielsen you're after but he was an officer and in theater:

Jacob Nielsen, born October 15, 1890, entered service October 1, 1913, Leutnant der Reserve der Matrosenartillerie February 18, 1916. Sonderkommando Türkei from April or May 1915 to the end of the war.

Out of service January 21, 1920. German decoration in early 1918 is just the EK2.

[Glenn J]

19 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Nillrich     Stabsarzt Dr Marine

Another misspelt and double entry blooper. He does appear under the correct name amongst those with the surname beginning with W.

Marine-Stabsarzt Dr. Georg Willrich, born 18 July 1883 at Nörten, Hannover Province. Passed the state medical examination on 26 July 1911. Initially served as a one year volunteer in 1905. Commissioned as an active naval medical officer on 2.3.13. Promoted to Marine-Oberassistenzarzt on 4 3.14 and to Marine-Stabsarzt on 16.7.15. On SMS Goeben until June 1915, then flotilla medical officer of the Ottoman torpedo boat flotilla. Simultaneously ships medical officer of the Steamer Olga in Stenia and the poliklinik in Emirghan near Stenia from 15 June 1915 to November 1918. Left active service on 28 November 1919. Holder of a host of Ottoman awards, including the Medschidie and Osmanie orders in the 4th class, a silver Liakat with swords, the war medal and Ottoman red crescent. Prussian EK1. Practiced in Frankurt am Main following the war.

Regards

Glenn

 

 

[Glenn J]

20 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Niemöller Max    Lt (Maj)    

Wrong branch of service given for Herr Niemöller.

Oberleutnant der Reserve (15.2.15) Max Niemöller, born 22 January 1882 of the naval infantry. Initially in Flanders until April 1915, then assigned to the 11th department of the Ottoman supreme headquarters. Promoted to Kapitänleutnant der Reserve on 16.7.17 with the accompanying rank of an Ottoman major. Demobilised 6 November 1919.

Regards

Glenn

 

[Michael Lowrey]

28 minutes ago, Glenn J said:

Wrong branch of service given for Herr Niemöller.

Oberleutnant der Reserve (15.2.15) Max Niemöller, born 22 January 1882 of the naval infantry. Initially in Flanders until April 1915, then assigned to the 11th department of the Ottoman supreme headquarters. Promoted to Kapitänleutnant der Reserve on 16.7.17 with the accompanying rank of an Ottoman major. Demobilised 6 November 1919.

Regards

Glenn

 

Slight correction: Niemöller was promoted to Hauptmann der Reserve der Marineinfanterie on July 16, 1917. (The Marineinfanterie used the rank of Hauptmann, not Kapitänleutnant). His German decorations in early 1918 are the EK2 and Oldenburg’s Friedrich August Kreuz 2nd class.

[Glenn J]

5 minutes ago, Michael Lowrey said:

Slight correction: Niemöller was promoted to Hauptmann der Reserve

Oops. Mea Culpa 

Thanks Michael.

Regards

Glenn

[GreyC]

56 minutes ago, Glenn J said:

Niemöller Max

Not to be confused with Martin Niemöller, officer on submarines in the Mediterranean, later pastor and put into a KZ. I do not know if they were related. Not directly, to my knowledge.

GreyC

Edited 27 April by GreyC

[stevenbecker]

Cheers Grey, yes I had 

Niemoller Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin    ObLtzS Marine    2nd officer (Navigator) U 73 Pola/Mittelmeer II Flotilla 2-16 to U 39 Pola/Mittelmeer II Flotilla 1-17 to 1st officer U 151 8-17 to U Boat School Crew 4/10 to Commander UC 67 Pola/Mittelmeer II Flotilla 6-18 to 11-18 (replaced Neumann) U boat     1918-    (born 1892 at Lippstadt died 6-3-84) Kaiserliche Marine with 3 ships sunk (9,903 tons) awarded EK II & EK I  retired 1919 and studying Protestant theology from 1919 to 1923 ordained 1924 and a pastor at Dahlem (suburb of Berlin) in 1931 later WWII anti nazi pastor ended up in the infamous concentration camps Sachsenhausen and Dachau from 1938 to 1945 wrote poems "And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up" wrote book “Vom U-Boot zur Kanzel“ 

Still not sure

Nielsen    ObLt    VzFeuerwerker Munitionsfachkundigen &  die Munitionsräumung (EOD) - Ordnance Mathematician in the Armaments office 

Is the same man as Jacob , than again the only other Neilsen I could not confirm in the records, as Verlustlisten list some 47 names of those Tot in 1915, but without a first name, it was not found?

Nielsen    Vizefeldwebel    served in Expedition Klein in Persia Mesopotamia 1914-15    1914-15    (KIA 1915) (not identified) First foray into Persia Mesopotamia The attack on Ahwas Sergeant Nielsen's feat and death book "Gegenspieler des Obersten Lawrence" by Hans Lührs

Todays

Nostitz Moritz Freiherr Von    Capt / Hptm    General Stabsoffizier in the staff of special forces - Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando)    1916-    shown as Professor Moritz (not identified)? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book

Obering    ObLtzS Marine    Stab Naval HQ at Istanbul to Iraq Flotilla in Persia under Kapt-Lt Ney    1915-16    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Ody Edmund     Zahlmeister Marine    Zahlmeister (Paymaster) SMS Breslau (Midilli)    1916-17    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Oels Paul    Zahlmeister Marine    Zahlmeister (Paymaster) SMS Goeben (Yavuz)    1916-17    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 
 

[emrezmen]

8 hours ago, Michael Lowrey said:

Martin Nitzsche, November 8, 1883, Crew 1900,  Kapitänleutnant March 22, 1910, Korvettenkapitän October 29, 1918. June or July 1915 commands the forts Anatoli Hamidie, then chief of staff of the commander of the Dardanelles, then staff officer to the commander of the higher command in charge of the straits.

Returns to Germany to become a submarine commander: https://uboat.net/wwi/men/commanders/228.html

Out of service November 22, 1919. German decorations in early 1918 are the EK1. A U-boat War Badge at some later date would be expected.

Died August 25, 1944.

As a side note, Nitzsche's transfer from the Dardanelles to Istanbul and later Germany was prompted by a dispute with a Turkish artillery officer. During a firing practice in November 1916, Nitzsche allegedly asked the officer, an experienced captain in heavy artillery, "Can you shoot?" The Turkish captain took offence to this kind of question and reacted strongly. Following the captain's protest and subsequent discussions at the higher command level, Nitzsche was reassigned elsewhere.

Of course, Nitzsche is one of the Germans I've been desperately trying to find a picture of.

[stevenbecker]

We of him because he sunk the Troop Ship HMTS Barunga, carrying returned men and Sick and wounded back to Australia.

Lucky no losses were recorded for the hundreds on board

Edited 28 April by stevenbecker

[Michael Lowrey]

Edmund Ody is another non-officer. Born February 13, 1896, entered service October 1914, On Breslau from about June 1916 to August 1917, followed soon there after by some time at the Engineering and Warrant Officers School. Marine-Zahlmeisteraspirant (warrant officer and officer candidate) May 1, 1918.

Out of service march 10, 1920.