German names from Wolf's book

[GreyC]

If you look for him here:

https://kaisers-blaue-flieger.de/

you´ll find a Siegfried Meuser. Don´t know if it is the guy you are  looking for, though.

GreyC

Edited 22 April by GreyC

[Glenn J]

2 minutes ago, GreyC said:

If you look for him here:

Well done Grey!

That appears to be him "bei der Seeflieger-Staffel Chanak". 

He is not listed in "Deckoffiziere der Deutschen Marine", although in fairness, they do say they "could not guarantee correctness".

Regards

Glenn

[Glenn J]

21 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Flugzeugobermaat

Steve,

just a thought. The rank of Flugzeugobermaat was utilized by non flying personnel other than aircraft mechanics . The ranks of the aircrew petty officers of the naval aviation career were:

Flugobermaat and Flugmaat.

Regards

Glenn

[Wigeon]

For what it's worth a Flugobermaat Meuser is recorded as pilot in mission reports in a date range from 18 July 1916 to 30 June 1917. See example below. 

 

 Image courtesy NARA , RG 42 T1022 Copies of Records of the German Navy. See also below

[stevenbecker]

Cheers

I though he maybe harder, Yes I had Meyer at SFS Varna but didn't make the conection, thanks again

Meyer Heinrich    Kapt-Lt Marine    pilot Airforce I. Seeflieger-Abteilung to Seeflugstation OC SFS Varna (from Korndorff & Kuntze) 12-16 to 1-17 to OC SFS Varna 4-17 to 10-17 to Stab Admin officer Nateko KofMarine Abt at Constanza 8-18    1916-17    (born 1882 ) Kaiserliche Marine awarded EK 11 and Bulgarian Order of Bravery Medal 4th class

There maybe many in my lists of over 8000 German and Austrian names in the forces in Turkey, who I doubled up.

Todays

Maybe another hard one if a Lt and not NCO pilot?

Mielenz    Lt    Pilot Airforce at Gallipoli possibly 1st Aircraft Company Tayyare Boluk *see Milens    1916-18    (not identified) to many to confirm? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Mielke Emil    ObZahlmeister Marine    Senior Paymaster OberZahlmeister of the Torpedo Boat Flotilla and Euphrates River Det (Tigris-Euphrates Flotila Det)     1914-16    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book

Modrow (Moderow)    Maj (LtCol to Col)    Deutsche Militär-Mission in der Türkei - Arty Comdr 8th Army 1917-18 - de Önce Çanakkale'de sonra Filistin'de Topçu Birlikleri Komutani (In 1915-1917, first in Canakkale, then in Palestine Artillery Units Commander) - shown Artillery commander Dardanelles and Artillerieinspekteur der S. Dsm. Armee Palestine    1915-17    (not identified)? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book and mentioned in book by Capt Simon-Eberhard
 

There also this man who we have mentioned before else where, but I could find no bio details on him?

Missuweit Heinz    LtzS to ObLtzS Marine    Adjt and Watch officer SMS Goeben (Yavuz) 1914 to Military Mediterranean Division MMD and Special Duties Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando) in Asia Minor shown Flag officer Stab MMD (Mittelmeer-Division) under Rebeur-Paschwitz 1918 (siehe letzte seite) RTG     1914-16    Kaiserliche Marine mentioned for his work transporting Artillery to the Island which helped in sinking the British monitor M30 at Kosten off Long Island Gulf of Smyrna 13/14-5-16 RTG to Stamm-Marine in Finland 1918 awarded Finland Medal of Liberty 3rd class 11-18 shown in Klaus Wolf's Book & by LvS in his 'Five Years in Turkey' pages 117/9 (not identified)?
 

* see Milens

Milens    Lt    Pilot Airforce 1st Aircraft Company Tayyare Boluk 9-15 to 5th Aircraft Company Tayyare Boluk 12-16     1915-    (not identified) (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen)
 

Edited 22 April by stevenbecker

[Michael Lowrey]

Emil Mielke, born October 25, 1882, entered service October 1901, Marine-Oberzahlmeister March 22, 1914. Arrives in theater in September or October as the paymaster for the Turkish torpedo boat flotilla to August 1916, then with the Euphrates River Detachment as its paymaster to May 1917.

Out of service September 8, 1920 with charakter of a Marine-Stabszahlmeister. German decorations in early 1918 just the EK2.

[Michael Lowrey]

Heinz Missuweit, born May 27, 1890, Crew 1910, Leutnant zur See September 27, 1913, promoted to Oberleutnant zur See March 22, 1916. Goeben to February 1918, originally as lieutenant and FT officer, then as a watch officer. During this period, he’s also listed as heading a radio post in Turkey. He was involved in the Finnish independence and ends the war as the commanding officer of the torpedo boat (= destroyer) S 36.

German decoration in early 1918 is the EK1. Out of service September 10, 1920. Charakter as Kapitänleutnant November 29, 1920.

[stevenbecker]

As to Mesuer, I was inclinded to go with you, but for the action mentioned in March 1916

The only other names around that date are;

Meißner (George)     Flugmeister deR Marine    pilot Airforce German Naval Seaplane Group (GNSG) (Wasserfliegerabteilung) I. Seeflieger-Abteilung to Seeflugstation SFS Chanak 4-16 to 12-18
others not mentioned in that site are out of that date range also;

Mero    FähnrichzS Marine    Pilot Airforce German Naval Seaplane Group (GNSG) (Wasserfliegerabteilung) 12-15 SFS    1915-18    (spelling in Ole Nikoljsen) (not identified)? 
Meinke    LtzS Marine    Pilot Airforce German Naval Seaplane Group (GNSG) (Wasserfliegerabteilung) SFS    unknown    (not identified)? 
Martin Arnold    VzFlugmeister deR Marine    Observer (Beobachter) Airforce I. Seeflieger-Abteilung - Seeflugstation to SFS Varna 1-16 to SFS Constanza 11-16 att SFS Duingi (Romania) 2-17 to 4-17     1916-17    (born 1892 at Passau KIA 29-4-17) at Romania awarded EK 11 and Bulgarian Order of Bravery Medal 4th class and Ottoman War Medal 
Meßtorff Hermann    VzFlugmeister deR Marine    pilot Airforce I. Seeflieger-Abteilung to Seeflugstation SFS Constanza 1-17 to SFS Duingi (Romania) 2-17 to 4-17     1917-
 

That said, the date of the action maybe incorrect, so who knows

[Michael Lowrey]

Arnold Martin, born May 27, 1892, entered service April 1914, (Marine) Vizefeuerwerker der Reserve July 1, 1916, (per the Ehrenrangliste, that’s a warrant officer rank on to the path to a commission), I. Seeflieger-Abteilung from January 1916 to his death on April 29, 1917 in an aircraft crash at Constanza

Edited 23 April by Michael Lowrey

[Michael Lowrey]

Hermann Meßtorf (one "f" per the Ehrenrangliste), born May 3, 1892, entered service army service December 1914, to the navy July 1915, with the I. Seeflieger-Abteilung from that date to the end of the war except for around December 1915, when with the II. Seeflieger-Abteilung. Promoted to (Marine) Vizefeuerwerker der Reserve (warrant officer rank on to the path to a commission) July 31, 1918.

[Glenn J]

17 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Modrow (Moderow)    Maj (LtCol to Col) 

Major Heinrich Modrow, born 1869. Active Prussian field artillery officer. Originally commissioned into Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 1 on 18.1.91. At the outbreak of war he had risen to the command as a Major (22.3.13) of II./Bergisches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 59 in Cöln. Promoted to Oberstleutnant on 18.1.18 and retired on 22 July 1919. Charakter as an Oberst on 3 November 1919 with seniority from 22 July 1919.

Died 9 April 1920

[stevenbecker]

Cheers, 

Those pesky Airforce blokes again

Todays 

Moritz    Lt Dr (Vet)    Stabsveterinar (Veterinary) Deutsche Militär-Mission in der Türkei - later Army group Yildirim     1916-17    shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Müller (Mueller) Erich von    KaptzS Marine    1st officer SMS Goeben (Yavuz) Yavuz gemisinin 1. Subayi (1st Substation of Yavuz (Goeben)     1914-15    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine mention by Souchon about his American wife and Mrs Knispel? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Müller Heinrich    Ingenieur (Ing) Marine     Ingenieur (Engineer officer) SMS Breslau (Midilli)     1915-17    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 
 

Do you have a date when born for these two?

Müller Rudolf Hugo    FähnrichzS to LtzS deR Marine    SMS Goeben (Yavuz) att SMS Breslau (Midilli) verpflegungsverband - Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando) - Naval MG Sects Marine-Landungsabteilung (Naval Shore Det) - Çanakkale'de makinali tüfek bölük komutani (Machine gun unit in Canakkale) - MG Platoon     1915-    (born at Erlbach Chemnitz ) Kaiserliche Marine leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 28-6-15 by British at Gully Ravine (Sigin Dare) near Krithia shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Müller Victor (Viktor)     Stabsarzt Dr Marine    Stabsarzt MO SMS Breslau (Midilli)  Physician MarStArzt Dr    1916-18    (born at Gumbinnen KIA 20-1-18) Tot when ship sunk off Imbros Gallipoli buried at the garden of German Embassy at Tarabya/Istanbul awarded EK II 4-16 Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 
 

and confirm what date he was born?

Mühlens Peter    OberStabszarzt Dr Prof Marine    Oberstabsarzt Military Mediterranean Division MMD - Tropenmedizin hygienist the Ottoman 4th Army on the Siez Canal to researched u. a. on malaria in Augusta Victoria Hospice Jerusalem and Interim service with Bulgarian Army 1915-18    1914-15    (1874 or 1873 at Bonn died 7-7-43) Kaiserliche Marine Tropenmediziner tropical doctor and hygienist to work in the Bulgarian army 1915 awarded EK II 5-15 & EK I 10-15 later WWII Kriegsmarine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 
 

[GreyC]

Peter Mühlens (* 12. Mai 1874 in Bonn; † 7. Juni 1943 in Hamburg) was quite important during his lifetime, author of standard literature. Unfortunately for others he was an unethical *******. Someone wrote a book about his work during WW1 (doctoral dissertation, I believe) :

Titel	Jerusalem - Aleppo - Konstantinopel : der Hamburger Tropenmediziner Peter Mühlens im Osmanischen Reich am Vorabend und zu Beginn des Ersten Weltkriegs / Stefan Wulf
Person(en)	Wulf, Stefan (Verfasser)
Verlag	Münster : Lit
Zeitliche Einordnung	Erscheinungsdatum: 2005
Umfang/Format	VII, 130 S., S. a - j ; 22 cm
ISBN/Einband/Preis	978-3-8258-7941-9 kart. : EUR 14.90 3-8258-7941-0 kart. : EUR 14.90
EAN	9783825879419
Beziehungen	Hamburger Studien zur Geschichte der Medizin ; Bd. 5 Here is his Wikipedia entry: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mühlens

Edited 23 April by GreyC

[Michael Lowrey]

Dr. Viktor Müller (note the correct spelling of the first name), born April 12, 1886, entered service April 1905, Marine-Stabsarzt March 22, 1914, on board Breslau from an unspecified date, killed when the cruiser was mined and sunk on January 20, 1918. German decoration at the time of death was indeed just the EK2.

[Michael Lowrey]

2 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Müller Rudolf Hugo    FähnrichzS to LtzS deR Marine    SMS Goeben (Yavuz) att SMS Breslau (Midilli) verpflegungsverband - Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando) - Naval MG Sects Marine-Landungsabteilung (Naval Shore Det) - Çanakkale'de makinali tüfek bölük komutani (Machine gun unit in Canakkale) - MG Platoon     1915-    (born at Erlbach Chemnitz ) Kaiserliche Marine leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 28-6-15 by British at Gully Ravine (Sigin Dare) near Krithia shown in Klaus Wolf's Book

Correct details:

Rudolf Müller, born February 24, 1889, entered service April 1912, Leutnant zur See der Reserve October 13, 1913, Oberleutnant zur See der Reserve March 10, 1917. On Goeben to June 1915, then with the landing detachment as a Zugführer to August 1915, when he looks to leave the theater.

Out of service March 27, 1919. German decorations in August 1916 are EK2 and Baveria's Militärverdienstorden. The February 1918 Rangliste listing is unchanged when it comes to his decorations.

[Michael Lowrey]

Erich von Müller, born September 18, 1877, Crew 1895, Korvettenkapitän June 13, 1912, Fregattenkapitän July 18, 1918. To the beginning of the war, von Müller was the German naval attaché in London. 1st officer on Goeben from August or September 1914 to July 1915, then leaves theater (attaché in The Hague for the rest of the war).

Promoted to Kapitän zur See March 8, 1920; out of service June 30, 1921.

German decorations in early 1918 are the EK1 and Baden’s Order of the Zähringer Lion plus prewar the Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class and the Order of the Crown 4th Class. His prewar foreign decorations are the Royal Victorian Order (UK), the Order of Orange-Nassau (Netherlands), and the Order of Naval Merit (Spain).

 

[Michael Lowrey]

It took some searching, but I finally found…

Heinrich Müller, born July 14, 1894, entered service August 1914. Not a commissioned or even a warrant officer while in theater.  Müller was on Breslau from October or November 1915 to September 1917, when he returns to Germany to attend the Engineer and Warrant officer School; he graduates as a Marine-Inenieurasprant (engineering warrant officer and commissioned officer candidate) on August 30, 1918 and was on a path to serve on submarines. 

Out of service on February 29, 1920. Charakter of Leutnant (I) on February 2, 1920.

[stevenbecker]

Cheers Michael,

Veriations in names comes from differant sources. Always good to get it right as much as possible so others will not have  the same mix ups

[Glenn J]

8 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Moritz    Lt Dr (Vet)    Stabsveterinar (Veterinary)

Veterinär Otto Moritz, commissioned from the veterinary academy shortly before the war on 19.6.14 and assigned to Jäger-Regiment zu Pferde Nr. 5. According to the regimental history of JRzPf 5, he was with the regiment at least to the end of 1915. Promoted to Oberveterinär on 26.8.17. With the police in Köln as a veterinary official after the war. Only shown as an Oberveterinär in 1917 and with the Irakgruppe.

Regards

Glenn

[Glenn J]

Kapitän zur See Erich von Müller was born in Berlin and attended school in Karlsruhe, passing his Abitur examinations. On relinquishing his appointment as the naval attaché at the Hague, he was appointed as a member of the German naval peace commission. The naval officers' association handbook of 1939 shows him in retirement and living in Berlin-Wannsee. Kapitän zur See von Müller died in Berlin on 31 January 1945 and is buried in Berlin-Wannsee.

Regards

Glenn

[Glenn J]

19 hours ago, stevenbecker said:

Mühlens Peter    OberStabszarzt Dr Prof Marine 

Professor Mühlens was promoted to Marine-Oberstabsarzt on 22.3.10 and granted permission to retire from active service on 7 January 1911. He was transferred to the status of a medical officer of of the Seewehr. He was promoted to Marine-Generaloberarzt der Seewehr (Fregattenkapitän) on 27.1.16 and was demobilised on 25 March 1919. He was granted the Charakter of a Marine-Generalarzt der Seewehr (Kapitän zur See) on 22 April 1921. He is shown as a Flottenarzt z.V. (Kapitän zur See) during WW2 in his entry in the Neue Deutsche Biographie although he is not listed in Lohmann's and Hildebrandt's register of officers who served in WW2.

Regards

Glenn

[GreyC]

 

13 minutes ago, Glenn J said:

he is not listed in Lohmann's and Hildebrandt's register of officers who served in WW2.

Hi,

from 1933 to 1943  he was head of the famous Bernhard-Nocht-Instituts für Schiffs- und Tropenkrankheiten.  During this time he was busy finding /developing medical treatment against malaria and typhus fever. He intentionally infected psychiatric patients and prisoners of concentration-camps with these illnesses to see if he could then cure him. Needless to say that he caused much pain in vain.

GreyC

[Glenn J]

32 minutes ago, GreyC said:

Needless to say that he caused much pain in vain.

Perhaps that is the reason they omitted his "service".

Regards

Glenn

[GreyC]

He was more useful  in the described capacity.

GreyC

[stevenbecker]

Cheers,

Todays

Natz Emil    ObLtzS Marine    Coastal Artillery att fort Kilitbahir (with 2 men) replaced Woermann KIA 18-2-15 shown 5Bty at Orhaniye Fort 2Bn/5th (Agir) Heavy Artillery Regt (Fortress) replaced Lt Mehmet Kemalettin RTG returned to Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando)    1914-16 1917-18    Kaiserliche Marine awarded EK II 3-15 and Ottoman Silver Liakat Medal 3-15 (not identified)? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Neid Konrad     ObLtzS Marine    Sdr-Kdo (Sonderkommando Usedom) - Mines clearance command - Mine and Torpedo officer at Dardanelles     1914-17    Kaiserliche Marine awarded EK II 7-16 and Ottoman Silver Liakat Medal 12-15 and War Medal 11-15 shown in Klaus Wolf's Book 

Neinke    Lt    Group Signals officer Military Mediterranean Division MMD    1915-16    shown in Klaus Wolf's Book (not identified)? 

Neuhaus Gerhard    Stabsingenieur (Ing) Marine    Senior StabsIngenieur (Engineeer Officer) SMS Goeben (Yavuz) 1918    1915-18    Kaiserliche Marine awarded EK I 8-16 shown in Klaus Wolf's Book (not identified)? 

Neumann Karl    ObLtzS Marine    SMS Goeben (Yavuz)    1918-    (not identified)? Kaiserliche Marine shown in Klaus Wolf's Book