stevenbecker Posted 13 January Share Posted 13 January While checking out a number of German officers show up but little on them given by Sanders in his book? (not identified)? shown his Artillery (an artillery battery of four 155-millimetre (6.1 in) and twelve 77-millimetre (3.0 in) guns sunk the British Seaplane carrier HMS "Ben My Chree" around Meis (Castello Rosso) Island 9-1-17 shown in book by von Sanders (1890 at Hungen DoD 10-10-18) Krankheit (illness) near Aleppo shown his Artillery sunk the British Seaplane carrier HMS "Ben My Chree" around Meis (Castello Rosso) Island 9-1-17 shown in Klaus Wolf's Book (1875 at Saargemünd died 15-10-57) from 1. Pommersches Fußartillerie-Regiment "von Hindersin“ No 2 shown his Artillery sunk the British Seaplane carrier HMS "Ben My Chree" around Meis (Castello Rosso) Island 9-1-17 to Maj 3-18 Von Sanders wrote town of Tiberias stout defence under Major Schmidt-Kolbow Sept 1918 awarded EK II & EK I later WWII Kommandant Kriegsgefangenen-Bezirk XI to Gen-Maj z.D Armeegebiets 590 (Korück 590) in Frankreich bei AOK 1 1940 to 43 to Gen-Lt 1942 to Führerreserve 1943 Retired shown in book by Klaus Wolf (not identified)? shown his Artillery sunk the British Seaplane carrier HMS "Ben My Chree" around Meis (Castello Rosso) Island 9-1-17 shown in book by von Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 13 January Share Posted 13 January 11 hours ago, stevenbecker said: While checking out a number of German officers show up but little on them given by Sanders in his book? (not identified)? shown his Artillery (an artillery battery of four 155-millimetre (6.1 in) and twelve 77-millimetre (3.0 in) guns sunk the British Seaplane carrier HMS "Ben My Chree" around Meis (Castello Rosso) Island 9-1-17 shown in book by von Sanders Steve, Joseph Hesselberger (Heßelberger), a Bavarian Landwehr cavalry officer. Born 27 May 1877 at Gunzenhausen. He had served pre-war (1896) as a one year volunteer in the 1. Chevauleger-Regiment but was not commissioned until after the outbreak of WW1. Serving on mobilisation with Prussian Reserve-Husaren-Regiment Nr. 5, he was promoted to Vizewachtmeister on 9 August 1914 and commissioned with seniority as a Leutnant d.L. (1st levy) on 4 October 1914. Transferred to the replacement squadron of 7. Chevaulegers-Regiment on 22 July 1915, he was further assigned to the German military mission in Turkey for the duration of the war on 1 October 1915. He served on the staff of several Turkish army corps was also employed as an orderly officer (assistant adjutant) to Oberstleutnant Georg von Schierstädt (5th Army). He was transferred back to the replacement squadron of 7. Chevaulegers-Regiment on 5. September 1918. He must have impressed while in Turkey as he was awarded the prestigious Knights' Cross of the Hohenzollern House Order as an "Ottoman" Oberleutnant assigned to the 5th Ottoman army on 15 September 1917. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 13 January Share Posted 13 January 12 hours ago, stevenbecker said: (1890 at Hungen DoD 10-10-18) Krankheit (illness) near Aleppo shown his Artillery sunk the British Seaplane carrier HMS "Ben My Chree" around Meis (Castello Rosso) Island 9-1-17 shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Steve, Max August Ittmann was a pre-war Prussian regular foot artillery officer. Commissioned into the Lothringisches Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 16 (Patent of 17.8.07 X), he was assigned to Reserve-Fußartillerie-Regiment Nr. 16 on mobilization. He was promoted to Oberleutnant on 27.1.15 and to Hauptmann on 25.11.16. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 13 January Share Posted 13 January 15 hours ago, stevenbecker said: (1875 at Saargemünd died 15-10-57) from 1. Pommersches Fußartillerie-Regiment "von Hindersin“ No 2 shown his Artillery sunk the British Seaplane carrier HMS "Ben My Chree" around Meis (Castello Rosso) Island 9-1-17 to Maj 3-18 Von Sanders wrote town of Tiberias stout defence under Major Schmidt-Kolbow Sept 1918 awarded EK II & EK I later WWII Kommandant Kriegsgefangenen-Bezirk XI to Gen-Maj z.D Armeegebiets 590 (Korück 590) in Frankreich bei AOK 1 1940 to 43 to Gen-Lt 1942 to Führerreserve 1943 Retired shown in book by Klaus Wolf The late Dr. Dieter Zinke at the Axis History Forum provided this useful career summary of General Schmidt-Kolbow, although it is light on his Ottoman service. The general's personnel file is at the Bundesarchiv but has yet to be digitized (PERS 6/39769) Karl Schmidt-Kolbow * 14.05.1875 Saargemünd/Lothringen (today Sarreguemines/France) † 15.10.1957 Wiesbaden 28.10.1893 Fahnenjunker 14.05.1894 Fähnrich 13.05.1895 Sekondeleutnant 01.01.1899 Leutnant (renaming of rank) 18.05.1905 Oberleutnant 18.10.1911 Hauptmann ohne Patent (i.e. non-substantive) 27.01.1912 Seniority as a Hauptmann 00.00.1916 Ottoman Major 22.03.1918 Major 01.10.1923 Oberstleutnant 01.08.1928 Oberst 30.09.1929 Charakter (brevet) as Generalmajor 26.08.1939 char. Generalmajor z.V. 01.02.1941 Generalmajor z.V. 01.04.1942 Generalleutnant z.V. Parents: Constantin Schmidt & Sophie neé. Fickeisen 28.10.1893 Entry in the Garde-Fußartillerie-Regiment; Spandau 00.00.1895 Battery officer in the Garde-Fußartillerie-Regiment 01.10.1897 Assigned to the combined artillery and engineer school (Vereinigten Artillerie- und Ingenieurschule), Charlottenburg. 01.10.1904 Assigned to the War Academy (Kriegsakademie) Summer 1907 returned to the Garde-Fußartillerie-Regiment 01.10.1908 Assigned to the military technical academy, Berlin-Charlottenburg 18.10.1911 Company commander in the 1. Pommerschen Fußartillerie-Regiment “von Hindersin“ Nr. 2, Swinemünde 1914/ 1915 Foot artillery company/battalion commander 00.00.1916 - 00.00.1918 in Ottoman service; commander of a heavy divisional artillery detachment of Heeresgruppe F 18.12.1918 in the 1. Pommerschen Fußartillerie-Regiment “von Hindersin“ Nr. 2 01.10.1919 Artillery officer of the fortress and chief of the ordnance office of the commandant of Pillau 01.01.1921 Artillery officer of fortress Pillau 01.04.1922 On the staff of the commandant of troop training ground Grafenwöhr 01.02.1925 Artillery officer on the staff of Fortress Königsberg 01.02.1927 Commander of III. (Instructional-)Detachment of 3. (Preußischen) Artillerie-Regiment, Troop training grounds Jüterbog 01.02.1929 Commander of 3. (Preußischen) Artillerie-Regiment, Frankfurt an der Oder 30.09.1929 Retired 26.08.1939 z.V. (placed at disposal) on the staff of 1st Army 06.09.1940 Commandant of prisoner of war district XI 15.12.1940 Führerreserve; on the staff of 1st Army 20.12.1940 Commandant of lines of communication area 590) Korück 590), in France under command 1st Army 01.02.1943 Führerreserve 31.03.1943 Mobilsation assignment cancelled 31.08.1943 At disposal status cancelled Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 13 January Author Share Posted 13 January Glenn, Cheers fills in the gaps. Schuler Yes to many to be sure which one he is, and Sander gives so little I did notice this man (not identified)? to many to confirm? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 13 January Share Posted 13 January 17 minutes ago, stevenbecker said: I did notice this man (not identified)? to many to confirm? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Hi Steve, the clue is in the rank: Rechnungsrat. Gustav Schuch was a civilian official of the military administration in the Prussian War Ministry prior to being assigned to the military mission. His actual rank was that of a "Geheimer expedierender Sekretär" . It is is pointless trying to translate into English. Sufficient to say, he was a clerical official with rank with the broad equivalency to that of a captain. However, the courtesy or Charakter title of Rechnungsrat awarded to the more senior grades of this rank, equated to a rank of a senior captain or better a "half Major"! While in Ottoman service he was accorded the local rank of Ottoman Major. Born 17 November 1868. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 14 January Author Share Posted 14 January Cheers well done How about the Navy, if you have no problems then there are many more Navymen (not identified)? shown in Klaus Wolf's Book both (not identified) shown in Klaus Wolf's Book (died 1918 in Boult aux Bois France) Mesopotamia RTG to CO Engineer Bn 376 (not identified) shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 14 January Share Posted 14 January (edited) 13 hours ago, stevenbecker said: How about the Navy, if you have no problems then there are many more Navymen Steve, this chap was starting to worry me No naval officer of that name whatsoever! However, a thought occurred to me regarding spelling, so I checked out Schlubach, a name I have encountered before. Korvettenkapitän Eric Schlubach, born 25 July 1878. Navigating officer of S.M.S. Deutschland at the beginning of the war and "I. Admirals-Stabsoffizier" or ASTO of the Mediterranean Division from June 1915 until the end of the war. Retirement and Charakter as a Fregattenkapitän on 14 July 1919. Afterthought: he is a double entry in Wolff's book. listed correctly as Schlubach and then a couple of pages later as Schulbach! Regards Glenn Edited 14 January by Glenn J Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 14 January Author Share Posted 14 January Buggar your right, he has done that before with others I found, (1878 in Valparaíso Chile died 20-10-62) Ex Navigator SMS Deutschalnd to Staff I. Admiralstabsoffizier beim Stab der Mittelmeerdivision 6-15 shown examined the papers sent to Constantinople from the wreck of the French Submarine Turquoise which gave details of her rendezvous with British HM Submarine E 20 which was destoryed 5-11-15 awarded Royal House Order of Hohenzollern and EK II & EK I and Hanseatic Cross post war joined the company Schlubach & Thiemer & Co later WWII Frig-Kapt fortress and local commandant Windau Latvia Russia 1941 shown in book by Klaus Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 14 January Share Posted 14 January 16 hours ago, stevenbecker said: (died 1918 in Boult aux Bois France) Mesopotamia RTG to CO Engineer Bn 376 (not identified) shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Steve, Oberleutnant (18.8.10) Rudolf Althaus, peacetime adjutant of the 1. Pionier-Inspektion in Berlin (with the uniform of Pionier-Bataillon Nr. 2). Promoted to Hauptmann 8.10.14. Pionier-Bataillon Nr. 376 was the engineer battalion of the 76. Reserve-Division. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 15 January Author Share Posted 15 January (edited) Cheers, Do you have a date for his death? The Verlustlisten only gives Tot Krankheit (illness) on the list 18 Nov 1918 possibly another Flu death? No luck with the other two? Edited 15 January by stevenbecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 15 January Share Posted 15 January 5 hours ago, stevenbecker said: Do you have a date for his death? The Verlustlisten only gives Tot Krankheit (illness) on the list 18 Nov 1918 Morning Steve, died 15 October 1918 as commander of Pionier-Bataillon 376 according to the Ehrenmal des preußsischen Offizier-Korps. Will see what I can do with the other two today. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 15 January Share Posted 15 January On 14/01/2024 at 04:24, stevenbecker said: both (not identified) shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Steve, here is Edgar Georg Ernst Adelmann. Not helped by the assertion in the book that he was an army officer! Born of all places, Bakhmut in the Ukraine on 6 March 1887. Performed his one year volunteer service with 1. See-Bataillon. Graduated from Heidelberg on 10 December 1913. Appointed a Feld-Unterarzt on 2 August 1914. Commissioned as a Marine-Assistenzarzt der Reserve on 13 May 1915. Following fleet and fortress assignments, assigned to the Sonderkommando in April 1916. Demobilised on 28 February 1919. Practiced medicine in Hamburg following the war and died there on 1 December 1934. Adel/Adle is problematic. I am not convinced either spelling is correct so will check out Adlers or Abels although both names are rather common. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 15 January Author Share Posted 15 January Glenn, Thank you very interesting, Bakhmut, well its in the news again still fighting around there. These new tow are again a bit short on both again (not identified) shown in Klaus Wolf's Book I did have two other Ahrens, but they were later then the man shown with Legal services? (1887 at Hildesheim ) in Gefschaft (in prison) PoW 20-9-18 or (1880 at Hamburg ) vermißt MIA possibly PoW 20/22-9-18 at Nablus-Besan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 16 January Share Posted 16 January Morning Steve, a mixed bag, this lot. I have drawn a blank so far with Dr. Ahrens. One assumes a military justice official would hold the rank of a Kriegsgerichtsrat (literally court martial counsellor) which equated to a captain/major. Military justice was the province of military officials and not officers. However, there was no serving military justice official of that name serving prior to the war and I can find no one so appointed during the war. Again, I think I would need to see the original German version. Akermann is a rather unusual name and at first I thought it might be a misspelt Ackermann. However luckily there was a serving Württemberg field artillery officer of that name and he is in fact our man; one Otto Akermann, born 15 May 1888 in Stuttgart and died 19 December 1969 in Stuttgart. Entered the Royal Württemberg army as a Fahnenjunker on 30 June 1906 and commissioned on 18 November 1907 with seniority from 22.5.06. Promoted to Oberleutnant on 8.11.14 and to Hauptmann on 15.12.15. Major in March 1920 and finally Oberst in WW2. A very nice portrait courtesy of the Landesarchiv Stuttgart: The other two Ahrens are both senior non commissioned officers fulfilling officer/official posts and bear no relationship with the justice official Ahrens. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 16 January Author Share Posted 16 January Thanks again Yes these legal Officers (shown with there ranks) are new to me, others shown by Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 16 January Share Posted 16 January Steve, Dr. Hermann Graf Fugger zu Gloett (Glött) (12 October 1872-20 June 1936) was a member of the very senior Bavarian noble house of Fugger. He was not an officer of the Kaiserliche Marine (an hence not a Leutnant zur See) but a former Bavarian infantry officer who served in the Infanterie-Leib-Regiment, the premier infantry regiment of that contingent. He was commissioned into the ILR on 12 February 1895 with a Patent of seniority granted on 4 March 1895. His military service was relatively short as he left the army on 16 December 1896 and was thus a Leutnant a.D. He entered the Navy on 9 April 1910 and was confirmed as a Kriegsgerichtsrat on 29 April 1913. Gerhard August Flenck, (25 October1880-17 July 1940) was again not a naval officer but a Prussian Leutnant der Reserve in Grenadier-Regiment Nr. 11, commissioned as such on 19.2.10 at that time a legal official (Gerichtsreferendar) in Breslau. He entered the navy in May 1914 and was confirmed as a Kriegsgerichtsrat on 23 May 1914. He served between the wars in the Reichsmarine as a naval justice official and was serving at the time of his death (heart attack) as a Marine-Oberkriegsgerichtsrat on the staff of the court of the naval coast commander Western Baltic Sea. I shall check out the other two shortly. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 16 January Share Posted 16 January Steve, Friedrich Karl Grützmacher was a career Prussian military justice official and Hauptmann der Reserve in Füsilier-Regiment Nr. 80. Born 15 December 1872 in Kreuznach, he died on 3 October 1918 in Damascus. 25.11.98: Leutnant d.R. 17.9.09: Oberleutnant d.R. 20.11.13: Hauptmann d.R. Seniority as a Kriegsgerichtsrat from 18.10.00. He had the military official rank of a counsellor of the 3rd class which would have entitled him to wear the shoulder boards of field officer pattern (i.e. that of a Major). Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 16 January Author Share Posted 16 January (edited) Clenn, Interesting Friedrich Karl Grützmacher is listed as missing (vermißt) He is amoung a number of men captured during the last days of the war in Palestine I have the details on all these (verlustlist) other then Fred Karl G Only Wegerhoff is shown died the rest captured all over the place DoD 26-10-18) Krankheit (illness) Erstbestattung in 'West-Anatolien' - später nach Istanbul/Türkei umgebettet commemoration at Tarabya Istanbul - Deutscher Soldatenfriedhof Istanbul (German military cemetery Istanbul) This now clears up Grützmacher exept how he died? Possibly like Wegerhoff of illness, common amoung the men at that time Then again he is shown as being with the 55Div Ottoman IR 170 in Thrace not Palestine and Damascus Was I looking at two different men? PS I did find another possibly the same man in Von Sanders book Edited 16 January by stevenbecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 17 January Share Posted 17 January 9 hours ago, stevenbecker said: This now clears up Grützmacher exept how he died? Steve, the Ehrenmal just states gestorben (died) as a Kriegsgerichtsrat, 1. Ottoman Division. With regards to Hauptmann Herz. there was not a military justice official of that name. However, notwithstanding the possibility of a misspelt name, I am of the opinion it refers to Hauptmann der Reserve Dr. jur. Franz Herz of Infanterie-Regiment 142/Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment 109 who was in civilian life a lawyer with the district court in Berlin Mitte. He could well have been employed as a Militärhilfsrichter or auxiliary judicial official in the field. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 17 January Share Posted 17 January 16 hours ago, stevenbecker said: Was I looking at two different men? Steve, difficult to imagine a military justice official serving in an infantry regiment. Having said that, he was a reserve infantry captain. There was only one other possible infantry officer in the Prussian army (none in the other contingents); one Oberleutnant (20.5.17) Wilhelm Grützmacher of Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 51. He would, if serving with Ottoman forces have held the Turkish rank of captain but I cannot confirm he was serving in that theatre. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 17 January Author Share Posted 17 January Mate, Its the problem chasing down men over 100 years ago converting from German to English. I try to give all types of there names I find, as Ottoman, German and English, all write differently and names can and do change by each nation Todays name shown treated for Typhus in German Hosp 9-15 RTG? (not identified) shown in Klaus Wolf's Book I did wonder if he was also this man (not identified)? mentioned in report by Krülls 8-15 I have gathered the names of over 8000 German and Austrians serving with Ottoman Forces during the war, some are shown with different spellings and some I will never know or be sure of. Such is this game of names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 18 January Share Posted 18 January Morning Steve, 9 hours ago, stevenbecker said: Its the problem chasing down men over 100 years ago converting from German to English. I think often more a problem from Ottoman Turkish to English. Gerhard Aly is relatively simple; a Prussian regular field artillery officer only commissioned on 9 June 1914 into Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 27 (and after the publication of the last peacetime army list in May of that year) with seniority of 23.6.12. He was promoted to Oberleutnant on 16.9.17 and survived the war. Permission granted on 24 January 1921 to wear the uniform of FAR 27. No navy officer of the name Aly or Aliy served in WW1 so probably a misspelt transliteration? Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenbecker Posted 18 January Author Share Posted 18 January Cheers, both not identified in Wolf Anderten is also mentioned in Ottoman sources, but finding who they were I hit a brick wall. I was also wondering about your sources here, is there a ranglist, like those of the KUK for the Germans, or is there a book your cross checking with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted 18 January Share Posted 18 January Steve, Ernst Anderheggen (2 October 1875–1959) was a mining official in civilian life. He was commissioned into the Marine-Infanterie as a Leutnant der Seewehr on 12 March 1915. He was assigned to the military mission in March 1915 as leader of the Kriegskohlenzentrale (Head office for coal in war). Demobilised on 21 January 1920. Will come back on Herr Anderten and sources in the morning. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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