charlie2 Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 5 minutes ago, GreyC said: portrait taken with his work-pals Thanks GreyC, I was struggling with that! The phonetic way it is written is similar to „Harzer Mundart“ which made me think it could be a dialect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 Even for a native speaker hard to crack. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 1 February , 2023 Author Share Posted 1 February , 2023 Thank you both I had run it by a native speaker here at work when I got nothing apart from the first and last bits and she struggled too. Much appreciated. As I said this was in a small lot of pics - scans of some of the others below This last one is very clearly stamped Maschinen-Gewehr -Zug, Reserve-Infantrie Regiment Nr 204 These appear to have roman and arabic (22) numerals on their collars None of these have anything on the reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 1 February , 2023 Share Posted 1 February , 2023 (edited) The ones with Roman and Arabic numerals are members of Landsturm-units. If you give us the numbers (too small for me, I am afraid) we will give you the units ;-) GreyC PS The last photo is of an Ulan or maybe a Chevauleger with a Fechterabzeichen, a proficiency badge for expert use of the Lanze. Unit not quite sure. Too late to look it up. Sorry. GreyC Edited 2 February , 2023 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 2 February , 2023 Author Share Posted 2 February , 2023 It looks like it is 22 XIII And is the lower cockade Lubeck and Hamburg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 XIII. 22 = Württembergisches 2. Landstrum-Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon XIII Armee Korps. Raised 15.02.1915, disbanded 15.09.1918, it remained in Germany throughout the war. In 1917-18 the companies were based at the following locations No. 1 Coy - Hall, No. 2 Coy - Heilbronn, No.4 Coy - Crailsheim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 6 hours ago, GreyC said: The last photo is of an Ulan Ulanen Regiment König Wilhelm I (2. Württembergisches) Nr. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, 4thGordons said: And is the lower cockade Lubeck and Hamburg Landwehr/Landsturm. They looked almost identical to Hamburg, varied in size and colour scheme. Best GreyC Edited 2 February , 2023 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 On 07/01/2023 at 23:27, GreyC said: Hi GWF, your card is by Philipp Stuckert to his father picturing his group (Korporalschaft) during their X-mas celebration. He might have been wounded and captured in 1918. Hi @GreyC, many thanks for the information, I’m not sure how I missed your post. My apologies for the slow reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 1st Photo, some of the shoulder strap monograms are visible on the soldiers at the front. If you can zoom in to them it may be possible to ID the regiment 2nd Photo, as above, the 3 soldiers sat round the table Photo 3, more Württemberger - XIII above a I is visible on the collar of the NCO on the right. Perhaps @GreyC knows if they are Landsturm Infantry or Cavalrymen Photo 4, Manoli was a cigarette manufacturer, surely the MG Zug wasn‘t sponsored by the company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 2 February , 2023 Author Share Posted 2 February , 2023 7 hours ago, charlie2 said: 1st Photo, some of the shoulder strap monograms are visible on the soldiers at the front. If you can zoom in to them it may be possible to ID the regiment 2nd Photo, as above, the 3 soldiers sat round the table Photo 3, more Württemberger - XIII above a I is visible on the collar of the NCO on the right. Perhaps @GreyC knows if they are Landsturm Infantry or Cavalrymen Photo 4, Manoli was a cigarette manufacturer, surely the MG Zug wasn‘t sponsored by the company Thanks for the suggestion It looks like : Pic 1 -- looks like 5 Pic 2 -- maybe 15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 19 hours ago, 4thGordons said: A pound to a penny (old style!) says the top one in Bavarian - to judge from those large and highly reflective cockades! They all seem to have first company troddels, and cavalry buckles, but I am not sure of the sabres... If model 91, cld be Chevalaulegsr or ulanan, but not sure of cap band colour, so cld be 'Train'. Only certain thing - IMHO - is Bayern and mounted! Bottom one - these look to be ersatz helmets, and is that a S.98a/A on the right with grooves all the way round on the grips? White epaulettes are not that common, but sadly quite a list is possible... Clearly a rear echelon unit - Ersatz (or Depot?), perhaps Landsturm or Landwehr from the 'obsolete' cartridge pouches and those helmets - and the men's ages! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 7 minutes ago, trajan said: cld be Chevalaulegsr or ulanan, No, not Chevaulegers or Uhlanen - wrong jackets.... Silly me... Shouldn't try to do this just before bed time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 13 hours ago, GWF1967 said: My apologies for the slow reply. No problem! GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 2 February , 2023 Share Posted 2 February , 2023 12 hours ago, charlie2 said: Perhaps @GreyC knows if they are Landsturm Infantry or Cavalrymen The Feldwebel to the far right looks to be Landsturm infantry, quite definitely. XIII/1 - württ. Landsturm-Infanterie-Bataillon Calw. The rest I am not so sure. They don´t wear the Landsturm numbers. The sidearm looks like cavalry, but I am by no m eans an expert in pointy things. With regard to 3 hours ago, trajan said: Only certain thing - IMHO - is Bayern and mounted! It is not Train, quite certainly (light blue) and I wouldn´t be too certain about Bayern, by the way. It could be Sachsen, too. - But isn´t ;-) I´d go with Bavarian Field-Artillery Regiment No 5 (bFAR5). Though the Prussian and Saxon field-artillerymen had either a monogram, a pictogram or a number under a flaming grenade on the flaps, the Bavarians dared to differ - once again. They only had the number of the unit (or monogram) on the flaps. The belt is typical for artillery, too. Best, GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 3 February , 2023 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2023 Another small bundle - three pre war (1909) - but also a very nice clear/sharp portrait dated 1915. I am continually surprised (I know I should not be) by the quality of many of these 100+ year images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 7 hours ago, GreyC said: The Feldwebel to the far right looks to be Landsturm infantry, quite definitely. XIII/1 - württ. Landsturm-Infanterie-Bataillon Calw. The rest I am not so sure. They don´t wear the Landsturm numbers. The sidearm looks like cavalry, but I am by no m eans an expert in pointy things. With regard to It is not Train, quite certainly (light blue) and I wouldn´t be too certain about Bayern, by the way. It could be Sachsen, too. - But isn´t ;-) I´d go with Bavarian Field-Artillery Regiment No 5 (bFAR5). Though the Prussian and Saxon field-artillerymen had either a monogram, a pictogram or a number under a flaming grenade on the flaps, the Bavarians dared to differ - once again. They only had the number of the unit (or monogram) on the flaps. The belt is typical for artillery, too. Best, GreyC Thanks GreyC - serves me right for trying to do this too late at night! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6RRF Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 9 hours ago, 4thGordons said: Another small bundle - three pre war (1909) - but also a very nice clear/sharp portrait dated 1915. I am continually surprised (I know I should not be) by the quality of many of these 100+ year images. Its the quality of the lens that does it - and absolutely superb image of a landser in that finalphotie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 6RRF said: Its the quality of the lens that does it Not only, if at all. Size of negative matters, too. Not 24x35mm with analog 35mm photo-film but at least 9x12 cm, probably 13x18cm. Professional equipment with studio camera (outdoors, too: 18x24cm or even 30x40cm). So whereas the photo prints from the Leica era onwords (mid 1920s) are enlargements (and therefore come with loss of quality / detail / resolution) the prints then (WW1 )where (by and large) contacts (same size as negative) or miniaturizations (print smaller than negativ). Lenses in amateur cameras then where often not very good quality with regards to f stop possibilities, level of resolution and distortion. Third factor is the quality of the films used that where not very sensitive, but some had a fine grain. So if enough light was to be had and exposure time was limited to a bearable fraction of a second, results were ok to better than ok to excellent depending (among further factors) on the combination of lenses, papers and formats used. GreyC Edited 3 February , 2023 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 On 02/02/2023 at 01:11, 4thGordons said: It looks like it is 22 XIII And is the lower cockade Lubeck and Hamburg? In the photo, the roundel is for the Landsturm of Württemberg (and for the Reserve too) In the photo, the colors of a cockade are black/red/black. Here is a small sample of roundel from my collection. You can see the difference between her. michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 15 hours ago, 4thGordons said: That is a nice one! an active server by the look of things - note that twisted cartridge box strap on the left, so not a 'pretty picture perfectly posed' photograph! Note also his 'Nahkampfmesser' stuck in his boot! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 3 February , 2023 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2023 17 hours ago, 4thGordons said: Another small bundle - three pre war (1909) - but also a very nice clear/sharp portrait dated 1915. I am continually surprised (I know I should not be) by the quality of many of these 100+ year images. Yes I really like this image (I bought the small lot because this one was in it!) He also appears to have corduroy trousers on - which I know were used but I think this might be my only picture of them. Here is the reverse which might provide a little more information: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 (edited) I stand always ready to be corrected, but if this is the 4th Bavarian Infanterie Division, as the post mark imples, then it looks like he is from the Kgl. Bayer. 5. Infanterie-Regiment Großherzog Ernst Ludwig von Hessen and if I am wrong, then GreyC will correct me! Other than the fact it 'Begins my dear! Greetings and ... ' I am stumped! Julian Edited 3 February , 2023 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 He writes he is well and hopes same of addressee. As Trajan quite rightly wrote he is from the Bavarian 5th infantry regiment. 2nd battailon, I might add. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 3 February , 2023 Share Posted 3 February , 2023 Good evening By enlarging the photo, we can see the Bavarian lion. This regiment is in Artois at the time of writing this postcard. this regiment held the front line on Hill 70 at Loos from November 1915 to August 22, 1916. Kind regards michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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