Steve1871 Posted 27 November , 2020 Share Posted 27 November , 2020 What bayonet is that, the sword bayonet?? I have a few the “T” back, Breda I guess, and Gras/ Greek, but you show slim regular sword blade. I do not know what it is. I have 1903/14 Mannlicher and a M1930 ( think) Greek Mauser. Does both T-back. And this sword type go to the 1903/14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 27 November , 2020 Share Posted 27 November , 2020 On photo are the short M1903 greek bayonets, delivered by Steyr, the rectangular fuller after short resistanse could be rotate the blade in scabbard, then is no resistance as the spring lips are in fuller not on blade edge, problem is the mouth lip is going over the edge and it should be blunted when sharpened. Possible young soldier could made it. sometimes are better looking sides attached for photo shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 28 November , 2020 Share Posted 28 November , 2020 Some excellent photos from the book of Mr. Panagiotis Vasilopoulos about Greek Manlicher rifle and the bayonets fitted on it by the Greek Army, during 1912 until 1949. The book is written only in Greek language. Regards D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasemuseum Posted 29 November , 2020 Share Posted 29 November , 2020 Hi Zulu, please post the coverpage to the Vasilopoulos book Cheers Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 29 November , 2020 Author Share Posted 29 November , 2020 Thanks Dimitrios, - is this a recent publication? Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 29 November , 2020 Share Posted 29 November , 2020 Thanks for sharing it, it would be great to compare the Gras 1874 delivery with H.Hintermeier information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 29 November , 2020 Share Posted 29 November , 2020 Hello again Ross, Julian, Andy, Here are the front and back cover of the book. My wife got the photos as I am in bad condition to do anything, except from writing, some times. Regards D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 29 November , 2020 Author Share Posted 29 November , 2020 Thanks Dimitrios, not the one I know which is Sazanidis - images attached. Your accident seems to have been a very bad one - as we say in Turkish, Gecmis olsun! May it pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasemuseum Posted 3 December , 2020 Share Posted 3 December , 2020 Hi Dimitrios, Thanks, very much appreciated. My prayers for a speedy and full recovery. Cheers Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 Good morning to all Another photograph from Balkan wars. Greek Infantry ready to attack with bayonets. Clearly visible the manlicher bayonets, both models, long and short. Regards D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 Greek evzones (tsolias) in a ceremony, 1920. Look at the left of the photograph thevevzones who have manlicher long model bayonets attached on the rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 19 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 December , 2020 (edited) Great photographs there! The second one reminded me of one day when I walking in Athens and heard this measured and repeated 'crunch, crunch, crunch,' behind me, and turned round to see four/five evzones in full uniform and hob-nailed tsarouchi on their way to changing the guard - and it was quite obvious they were not going to stop for me so I hopped of the pavement quick! Never seen so many tall guys in a single group - they towered over me and I am 1.80 m! Edited 19 December , 2020 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 1 minute ago, trajan said: Great photographs there! The second one reminded me of one day when I walking in Athens and heard this measured and repeated 'crunch, crunch, crunch,' behind me, and turned round to see four/five evzones in full uniform and hob-nailed tsarouchi on their way to changing the guard - and it was quite obvious they were not going to stop for me so I hopped of the pavement quick! Never seen so many tall guys in a single group - they towered over me and I am 1.80 m! Julian good morning To join the evzones, your height must be at least 1.90 and more!!! Since 1945 is not a military force but only execute duties as guard of the president of Greek republic. Regards D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 Nice photos, the first one from balkan war looks like only short M1903 models there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 27 minutes ago, AndyBsk said: Nice photos, the first one from balkan war looks like only short M1903 models there. Andy yes, my mistake Here is a photo with long model manlicher bayonets, as Andy indicated correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 Very nice picture,what is there in right side for short barelled MG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 Andy, Is the Chauchat machine gun. The Chauchat was the standard light machine gun or "machine rifle" of the French Army during World War I (1914–18). Effective firing range: 200 metres (220 yd) Maximum firing range: 2,000 metres (2,200 yd) Rate of fire: 240 rounds/min Barrel length: 470 millimeters (19 in) A usuless machine gun which Greek army reconstructed before Ww2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 Dont looks so, note where is the buttstock, and long cylindrical tube over butt and no 2 handles and doubble leg is not mounted on barell . I believe left one could be variation of LMG Chatellerault M24/29 wout magazine and with lower handgrip, right one hard to say . https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 The right one is absolutely Hotchkiss, an excellent machine gun. The Hotchkiss M1922 light machine gun was a commercial venture from famous French company Hotchkiss et Cie, which previously developed a highly sucessful M1914 medium machine gun. The Hotchkiss M1922 machine gun was offered in a variety of calibres, including 6.5mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer (Greek), 7×57 Mauser (Spain), 7.7x56R (.303, UK) and 7.92×57 Mauser (China). It was also produced in limited numbers in the French 7.5×54 calibre for the French army as the Mle.1934. Some export versions of this Hotchkiss light machine gun also bore designations of M1924 or M1926, and there were many minor differences among guns made for different contract and countries. The M1922 is a gas operated, air-cooled, automatic-only weapon, which fires from an open bolt. The gas piston is of the long-stroke type; it is located below the barrel inside a gas tube of relatively large diameter. Locking is achieved by tipping the locking piece (hinged to the rear of the bolt) downwards to engage the recesses in the receiver. The locking piece is linked to the bolt carrier / rear gas piston extension by a swinging link. The M1922 fires in automatic mode only, and it features a rate-reducing mechanism located in the trigger unit housing, in front of the trigger guard. There were two different types of feed available for Hotchkiss M1922 light machine guns – strip feed and magazine feed. Each type of feed required its own receiver with appropriate feed arrangements on the top. The version with strip feed has a separate feed cover that is hinged at the front. Feed strips are inserted from the right, with cartridges located below the strip. The feed is operated by an oscillating arm, which is operated by the reciprocating bolt. Apertures, made for the feed strip on either side of the receiver, have hinged dust covers. The magazine feed system is much more simple and reliable. It involves a curved box magazine which is inserted from the top. In either case, spent cartridge cases are ejected down through an aperture in the base of the receiver. The sights are of the open type, and sighting line is offset to the left on guns with magazine feed. Standard furniture includes a conical flash hider on the barrel, a wooden butt with an integral pistol grip, and a folding lightweight bipod which attaches to the barrel in front of the gas block. Other options may include a folding carrying handle at the front of receiver and a small vertical foregrip for “assault firing” from the hip. Alternatively, a short wooden forend was installed under the rear part of the gas tube. Hotchkiss also offered a heavy barreled version of the same gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 20 December , 2020 Share Posted 20 December , 2020 Yes it should be so thanks for designation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 22 December , 2020 Share Posted 22 December , 2020 Dear friends, For Christmas, some photos from Greek soldiers with manlicher, or converted gras bayonets for the manlicher rifle. Regards D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasemuseum Posted 22 December , 2020 Share Posted 22 December , 2020 Hi D Thanks some great photos. Very best wishes for Christmas Cheers Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 23 December , 2020 Share Posted 23 December , 2020 Mery Christmas to all, nice pictures, on second one i assume are too french rifles one Berthier and some with Lebel bayonet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluwar2006 Posted 24 December , 2020 Share Posted 24 December , 2020 Merry Christmas to all!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 28 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 28 December , 2020 A bit late - but to you as well, and a Happier New New Year! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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