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4 hours ago, Black Maria said:

'Jottings by a Gunner and Chaplain' by John A Boullier , Charles H. Kelly London 1917 ( 96pp ) . I've been looking out for a copy of this book for about twelve years so it was nice to finally find one and a bonus that it included it's original jacket ! The author served in the R.F.A and later as a chaplain ( The Retreat from Mons to The Battle of the Somme ).

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New one to me. Hope it doesn’t take 12 years!

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2 hours ago, other ranker said:

Happy Christmas and New Year Black Maria! I haven't seen the 'Jottings' book before. Well done with a DJ. I have never really looked hard at the books written by the Clergy. Are there any that are a must have? I await your thoughts.

Happy Christmas and New Year to you as well . To be honest i wasn't aware that he later joined the clergy when i put it on my wants list , i just assumed he was a gunner as the only title i had for it (incorrect as it turned out ) was 'Jottings of a Gunner ' ( i can't even remember where i first saw it listed ) . Books by the clergy aren't my favourite reading material to be honest , but there are a few classics obviously which you probably already have like 'The Church in the firing line ' and Happy days in France and Flanders' .

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11 minutes ago, Dust Jacket Collector said:

New one to me. Hope it doesn’t take 12 years!

Keep your fingers crossed Alan , another may turn up soon if the rare book and buses theory works !

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Not a rare book on its own, but the proof copy of one of the most important books from the 60s on British Military history. 
 

Picked up from one of the New Year Guildford bookfairs. Oh how I miss bookfairs. I attach a photo of you know what for you know who (the last photo).

Anyway enjoy, I guess someday it should go to a museum, it’s wasted on an Official History collector. I can still remember the book dealer apologizing it’s disbound, and only charging circa 15 quid.

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Very nice indeed. It wasn’t cheap in 1965 at 5 guineas.

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12 minutes ago, Dust Jacket Collector said:

Very nice indeed. It wasn’t cheap in 1965 at 5 guineas.

It certainly was not, and was a labour of love, it started putting order into knowledge about Regimental Histories and other units. IRC the book dealer knocked 2or 3 or 5 quid off because it was disbound.

Alan did you enjoy the photo of the proof copy of the DJ, ever seen the proof of DJ? This is the only one for a miltary book I have seen.

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3 hours ago, MartH said:

It certainly was not, and was a labour of love, it started putting order into knowledge about Regimental Histories and other units. IRC the book dealer knocked 2or 3 or 5 quid off because it was disbound.

Alan did you enjoy the photo of the proof copy of the DJ, ever seen the proof of DJ? This is the only one for a miltary book I have seen.

Interesting. Was it folded up inside the book? Clearly printed as one large sheet but never put round the book. No, not seen one before.

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So yes it was folded in the book, with a rusty paper clip, removed and IRC a Francais Edwards note.

As you say printed on one large sheet, used for proofing but never fitted to a bound copy.

Would you like a better photo for your website? I too have never seen one. Pity its not illustrated. 

I bet the War Office Library was good!

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3 hours ago, MartH said:

So yes it was folded in the book, with a rusty paper clip, removed and IRC a Francais Edwards note.

As you say printed on one large sheet, used for proofing but never fitted to a bound copy.

Would you like a better photo for your website? I too have never seen one. Pity its not illustrated. 

I bet the War Office Library was good!

Thanks Martin. That picture should be ok. Doubt you could get a better one without a large sheet of glass!

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Purchased from Tom Donovan Books a few months ago.  A "Proof Copy" of a book that appears to never have been published. It lists the names of all Royal Artillery officers who up to 31 December 1915  (1) received honors and awards or who were mentioned in dispatches; (2) who were killed or died (with short biographies); and (3) who were wounded; and all Warrant Officers and NCO's promoted to 2nd Lieutenant.

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Wow, special!

 

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So this is a very interesting book I bought a while ago, and put to one side to research when I had the time.

On the face of it, its the restricted mongraphs of the Second World War, on the Indian Ordance Services, it is written to preserve the lessons learn during the war before any offical histories on the subject. There was only one or two Indian OH's of the GW, they were determined to have a series for the Second World War, and before partition appointed amongst others Compton Mackenzie who wrote one volume Eastern Epic. 

India and Pakistan then had a combined Historical Section, and this was its first issue, It's not just WW2 but covers the history of the Indian Ordnance Services and the GW.

Finally, its the reference copy sold from the Ministry of Defence libray, a sad loss, one of a prinnt run of 500. Never seen another copy sold in 40 years.

I think the card cover was orignally pink.

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A rare survivor indeed. Well done. Looks like someone’s driven over it!

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3 hours ago, Dust Jacket Collector said:

A rare survivor indeed. Well done. Looks like someone’s driven over it!

Alan they did indeed! And then had it quarto bound in leather:

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For those of you interested why I think it was a pinky (grey), it's sort of grey below the pink.....

Here is another volume of Indian Armed Forces OHin paper wrappers

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Not seen a copy of this before still in its jacket. L. F. Robinson’s account of his command of a 6-inch gun on an armoured train at 1st Ypres, Neuve Chapelle & the Yser. Published by Constable in 1920, its survival is probably explained by the fact that it’s never been read - half the pages remained uncut! IMG_0894.jpeg.f2ecd86870ca1bcee6cd8357a24fa457.jpeg

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Was this from the Harrington list? Seemed remarkably cheap for them!

Well done if so.

 

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21 minutes ago, other ranker said:

Was this from the Harrington list? Seemed remarkably cheap for them!

Well done if so.

 

It was indeed. Certainly less than I’d have expected. Maybe they’ve realised that we collectors aren’t that rich. Wonder where the books came from? Quite an interesting bunch. Hope they have more.

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On 02/03/2024 at 20:08, Dust Jacket Collector said:

It was indeed. Certainly less than I’d have expected. Maybe they’ve realised that we collectors aren’t that rich. Wonder where the books came from? Quite an interesting bunch. Hope they have more.

Pom Harrington thinks collectors aren't rich  :D Still he gets the books!

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7 minutes ago, MartH said:

Pom Harrington thinks collectors aren't rich  :D Still he gets the books!

It’s a strange world indeed. Here we are prepared to pay a few hundred pounds for books that are extremely rare whereas at the other end of the scale there are collectors who’ll pay tens or hundreds of thousands for ones that really aren’t that rare at all. I’m thinking ‘Farewell to Arms’, ‘Casino Royale’, ‘Great Gatsby’ etc. that all turn up in auction farely regularly.

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I have a technical question whats a Second Proof.

 

I was looking a my proof copy of 1916 Vol.1 signed by Edmonds and Becke picture below, and it says Second Proof, what'sa Second Proof?

 

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3 hours ago, MartH said:

I have a technical question whats a Second Proof.

 

I was looking a my proof copy of 1916 Vol.1 signed by Edmonds and Becke picture below, and it says Second Proof, what'sa Second Proof?

 

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Not come across the term before. I can only assume that they made significant corrections to the first proof and were then sent this corrected version to see if they were now satisfied.

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1 hour ago, Dust Jacket Collector said:

Not come across the term before. I can only assume that they made significant corrections to the first proof and were then sent this corrected version to see if they were now satisfied.

Could be and the two signatures suggests approval.

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So I done some more searching in the book and compared it to a published version. Every set of octavo prints that has Second Proof and the printers name at the bottom R & R Clarker Limited Edinburgh on the first page is on slightly different paper and the all map sketches are slight smaller and without the print number etc, and some maps sketchers are ticked in ble pen.

So my thoughts are that the second copy is a corrected proof copy, with new sections bound in, and the map sketches added, the date of publication is 1931 not 1932.

I think its the corrected proof prior to publishing, signed off by Edmonds and Becke!

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I think you’re right. Fascinating to have a proof of one of the ‘Officials’. Never seen one myself. Wonder what Harrington’s would price it at!

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