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On 08/12/2018 at 15:05, Bardess said:

Excellent research, Peter. Many thanks

 

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Index No

 

Regt/Bn/Corps

 

Sqdn/Bty/Co

 

Regtl No

 

Rank/Name

 

Diseases/

 

Wounds/Injuries

 

Admission

 

Discharge

 

Entrained

 

Detrained

 

21479

 

RE

 

2/2 Lond

 

F Coy

 

3130

 

L/Cpl Stannard, C H

 

GSW thigh R

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21480

 

1 Leicesters

 

B

 

10662

 

Cpl Spicer, W

 

Bronch pneumonia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21481

 

TMB *

 

71

 

9787

 

Pte Jackson, A

 

Influenza

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21482

 

6 Beds

 

A

 

32247

 

Pte Pedder, H

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21483

 

9 London

 

D

 

7119

 

Rfn Rumble, C

 

GSW face

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21484

 

11 Essex

 

C

 

33957

 

Pte Thompson, H S M

 

Gas poisoning [shell]

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21485

 

11 Essex

 

B

 

40924

 

Cpl Lawson, S

 

ICT arms

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21486

 

11 Leicesters

 

B

 

23156

 

Pte Mould, L

 

Appendicitis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21487

 

1 N Staffs

 

A

 

25045

 

Pte Chambers, A

 

Trench foot

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21488

 

13 KRR

 

C

 

10180

 

Rfn Phillips, R

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21489

 

1 R Fus

 

D

 

15504

 

Pte Boyd, A

 

GSW thigh L

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21490

 

1/4 London

 

C

 

3363

 

L/Cpl Neame, D C

 

Trench feet

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21491

 

12 London

 

B

 

C/7365

 

Rfn Eason, A

 

Trench feet

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21492

 

13 London

 

A

 

6506

 

Pte Styles, H

 

GSW shldr L

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21493

 

12 London

 

C

 

5919

 

Rfn Dredge, S J

 

GSW arm L

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21494

 

RFA

 

126 Bde

 

95685

 

Gnr Chapman, W H

 

Ac bronchitis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21495

 

12 London

 

 

 

5968

 

Rfn Grossmith, H R W

 

Myalgia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Merville

 

Etaples

 

21496

 

6 Beds

 

C

 

28262

 

Pte Shaw, F H

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21497

 

16 L N Lancs

 

B

 

23895

 

Pte Greenwood, A

 

Myalgia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

Ward L

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21498

 

6 Beds

 

A

 

12082

 

Pte Austin, A

 

Albuminuria

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21499

 

8 Linc

 

D

 

14775

 

Sgt Beach, D

 

Myalgia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21500

 

RE att

 

1 RND

 

5463

 

Spr Cassleden, A L

 

Bron & DAH

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21501

 

11 Warw

 

B

 

11564

 

Pte Archer, H

 

Myalgia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21502

 

1 DCLI

 

B

 

27412

 

Pte Snelgrove, W

 

Tonsillitis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21503

 

6 Beds

 

B

 

32006

 

Sgt Lawrance, F J

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21504

 

MGC

 

110

 

5854

 

Sgt Haigh, V

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21505

 

15 Warw

 

B

 

1644

 

Cpl Thompson, R

 

Bronchitis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21506

 

RFC

 

25 Sq

 

5937

 

2/AM Fry, B

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21507

 

7 Leicesters

 

B

 

36057

 

Pte Bamford, F

 

VDH

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21508

 

9 KOYLI

 

B

 

43630

 

Pte Mills, R

 

Influenza

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

 

 

* ex Leicesters?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update

 

Patient 21481 Private 9787 A Jackson, 71 Trench Mortar Battery. You had him as possibly ex-Leicesters and I thought he was probably 9787 Albert Jackson. That mans' service records confirm he was hospitalised at this point with influenza while serving in France.

 

Patient 21484 Private 33957 H S M Thompson, 11th Essex. I thought he was probably an 11th Battalion man Henri Stanhope Thompson. His surviving service record confirms they are one and the same. They don't included medical docs, but his service summary has him back in the UK from the 7th February 1917 and discharged as a result on the 6th December 1917.

 

Before and after.

 

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On 11/12/2018 at 12:18, Bardess said:

Index No

 

Regt/Bn/Corps

 

Sqdn/Bty/Co

 

Regtl No

 

Rank/Name

 

Diseases/

 

Wounds/Injuries

 

Admission

 

Discharge

 

Entrained

 

Detrained

 

21509

 

RFA

 

A/94

 

55332

 

Dvr Handley, W P

 

Trench fever

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21510

 

RFA

 

D/95

 

46681

 

Gnr Morgan, J

 

Abscess axilla R

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21511

 

RFC

 

25 Sqn

 

38994

 

2/AM Lawder, W

 

Mastoiditis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21512

 

ASC att

 

186 S Bty

 

222727

 

Pte Armstrong, R I

 

Albuminuria

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21513

 

15 DLI

 

B

 

318

 

Pte Croft, G W

 

Influenza

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21514

 

6 Leicest

 

C

 

36034

 

Pte Stokes, G

 

Bronchitis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21515

 

RFC

 

25 Sqn

 

34476

 

2/AM Dudley, W

 

Tuberculosis ?

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21516

 

RFA

 

21 DAC

 

64296

 

Cpl Wilcox, G A

 

Urethral fistula

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21517

 

RE

 

129 Fld

 

63788

 

Spr Dutton, W

 

GSW head

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21518

 

1 Ches

 

A

 

49089

 

L/Cpl Riley, R K

 

Septic hd

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21519

 

2 Y & L

 

A

 

38086

 

Pte Williams, N

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21520

 

RFA

 

X 24 TMB

 

639

 

Gnr Holt, H C

 

Pleurisy ?

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21521

 

RFA

 

D/15

 

70922

 

Gnr Johnson, G

 

GSW thigh R

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21522

 

8 Beds

 

B

 

33255

 

Pte Colgan, L C

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21523

 

2 Y & L

 

D

 

31144

 

Pte Keigan, G

 

Incon urine

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21524

 

8 R W K

 

C

 

7282

 

Pte Boniface, B

 

GSW foot L

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

Ward M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21525

 

6 Beds

 

 

 

31562

 

Pte Hebington, W

 

Piles

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21526

 

1 Chesters

 

 

 

49367

 

Pte Edwards, W

 

Boils

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21527

 

15 R War

 

 

 

23448

 

Pte McCarthy, J

 

PUO

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21528

 

8 Buffs

 

 

 

1444

 

Pte Walters, W

 

Bomb wd acc

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21529

 

1 DCLI

 

 

 

18560

 

Pte Rogers, W

 

Tachycardia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21530

 

15 R War

 

 

 

19227

 

Pte Smith, T

 

Lumbago

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21531

 

1 DCLI

 

 

 

27771

 

Pte Gregory, A

 

Hernia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

St Venant

 

Etaples

 

21532

 

12 Glosters

 

 

 

14983

 

L/Cpl Hunt, H

 

Abscess neck

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21533

 

RFA

 

124 B

 

152080

 

Gnr Gibbons, J

 

ICT leg

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21534

 

RGA

 

9 HB

 

58859

 

Dvr Conley, A

 

NYD renal calculus

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21535

 

1 E Yorks

 

 

 

33296

 

Pte Baxter, T

 

NYD pyrexia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21536

 

RGA

 

140 HB

 

2124

 

Gnr Cunnington, J

 

Ac conjunctivitis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21537

 

RFA

 

106 B

 

65081

 

Gnr Percival, F J

 

Synov knee L

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21538

 

ASC

 

608

 

161572

 

Pte Newstead, F

 

Ischiorectal abscess

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

 

 

Update

 

Patient 21513 Private 318 G W Croft, 15 DLI. His service record shows his service number as 21/318.

 

Before and after.

 

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On 13/12/2018 at 12:15, Bardess said:

Final page

Index No

 

Regt/Bn/Corps

 

Sqdn/Bty/Co

 

Regtl No

 

Rank/Name

 

Diseases/

 

Wounds/Injuries

 

Admission

 

Discharge

 

Entrained

 

Detrained

 

21539

 

2 DLI

 

 

 

26873

 

Pte Ward, A

 

ICT legs

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21540

 

RE

 

254 T C

 

132439

 

Spr Dellow, F

 

Inf mid ear

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21541

 

10 KOYLI

 

 

 

1588

 

L/Cpl Warhurst, J

 

NYD pyrexia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21542

 

2 N & D

 

 

 

47436

 

Pte Elliott, C

 

Laryngitis

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21543

 

8 Queens

 

A

 

128

 

L/Cpl Cox, W

 

NYD pyrexia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21544

 

12 Glosters

 

 

 

16526

 

Pte Tugwell, A

 

Disloc thumb

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21545

 

RE

 

2 Durham Fld

 

1778

 

Spr Gray, R

 

Stricture

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21546

 

RGA

 

180 Siege

 

102934

 

Gnr Holt, W A

 

Hernia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21547

 

9 Norfolks

 

 

 

40168

 

Pte Chapman, S

 

Osteoma humerus

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21548

 

ASC att

 

1 A Sup C

 

30115

 

Dvr Disney, W

 

Spr ankle

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21549

 

1 Norfolks

 

 

 

40008

 

Pte Cousins, W H

 

Hernia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21550

 

1 E Surrey

 

 

 

31173

 

Pte Bianchi, C H

 

Ischiorectal abscess

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21551

 

MGC

 

15

 

60230

 

Pte Nield, H

 

Haemorrhoids

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lillers

 

Etaples

 

21552

 

14 DLI

 

C

 

14439

 

Pte Todner, H

 

ICT groin

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21553

 

RFA

 

94 B

 

34895

 

Gnr Nixon, R

 

Diarrhoea

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21554

 

RE

 

ROD

 

197717

 

Spr Mehegan, M

 

ICT groin

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21555

 

ASC

 

55

 

M2/

 

054327

 

Pte Hopkins, W

 

DAH

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Lapugnoy

 

Etaples

 

21556

 

7 E Surrey

 

 

 

6066

 

Pte Bexfield, G F

 

Pyrexia & NYD

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21557

 

1 Leicester

 

 

 

27017

 

Pte Burt, G W

 

Trench fever

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21558

 

1 Leicester

 

 

 

407912

 

Pte Hudson, E

 

Hammer toe

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21559

 

8 Queens

 

 

 

2339

 

L/Cpl Hardy, H J

 

GSW forearm L

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21560

 

RE

 

22 Special

 

156589

 

Cpl Saunders, H

 

GSW scalp

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21561

 

1 Buffs

 

 

 

37

 

Pte Stallwood, C

 

Carbuncle

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21562

 

2 Y & Lancs

 

 

 

1970

 

Pte Watts, F L

 

Aneurysmal varix

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21563

 

14 DLI

 

 

 

1537

 

Pte Handisides, A W

 

GSW heel R

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21564

 

8 Queens

 

 

 

7094

 

Pte Earl, G W

 

Deafness NYD

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21565

 

1 R W K

 

 

 

12873

 

L/Cpl Davis, P

 

Abscess Axilla

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21566

 

7 N F att

 

10 Yorks

 

33050

 

Pte Angrave, E

 

Myalgia

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21567

 

1 DCLI

 

 

 

2292

 

Pte Dalton, S

 

Epilepsy

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

21568

 

1 E Surrey

 

 

 

31161

 

Pte Nash, P J

 

ICT leg R

 

23/1/17

 

24/1/17

 

Chocques

 

Etaples

 

 

 

Page 23

 

Updates.

 

Patient 21540 Sapper 132439 F Dellow, 254 T.C., Royal Engineers. His Service Record, MiC and Service Medal Roll shows the service number as 132429.

Patient 21555 Private M2/54327 W Hopkins, 55 A.S.C. His MiC and the related entry at the National Archive show the service number as M2/054327.

 

Patient 21558 Private 407912 E. Hudson, 1st Leicesters - one of the unidentified. I thought he was possibly Private 40712 Ernest Hudson. That soldier was discharged on the 10th August 1917 as no longer physically fit (sickness). There are no service records that would tie it in further.

 

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Bardess

Superb! All pages have now been worked on and correct details added. A fine team ^_^

 

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So after the initial run through and then the updates run through that still left 54 names for which no obvious Medal Index Card \ Service Roll or Service Record could be found. It was time to put on the deerstalker and cape :)

 

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Patient 20958 Private 7579 Sturridge, 92 Siege Battery, Royal Garrison Artillery.

 

I checked the adjacent service numbers to see if there was any renumbering or transfer pattern that might hint at who this man was.

 

7576 Bombardier Walter J. Abbitt was renumbered 282576

7577 & 7578 – no matches

SR-7580 Gunner Adam Barclay was renumbered 282580

 

Therefore I checked the MiC for 282579 and found it relates to a Gunner George A Standige, who would go on to serve  with the Labour Corps as 532004.  There are surviving pension records for that soldier which show his initial service number as SR/7579 when he had previously served – 1902-1908.

 

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Patient 20987 Private 10801 E. Cowgill, 12th Royal Fusiliers.

 

Private G57423 Edward Cowgill died in Sheffield War Hospital on the 27th August 1917 as a result of wounds. The Army Register of Soldiers Effects records him as 57423 / 10801. The detail available on the Royal Fusilier Service Medal Roll for the Victory Medal (VM) and British War Medal, (which only shows him as G57423) is that he served overseas with:-

12th Battalion………….15th August 1916 to 16th February 1917.

2nd Battalion……………14th June 1917 to 1st July 1917.

1st Battalion……………2nd July 1917 to 20th August 1917

 

I suspect the period from mid-February 1917 to mid-June 1917 was spent being treated for the condition that saw him aboard 31 Ambulance Train.

 

Patient 20996 Private 18651 J. Henry. 17 MGC.

 

A check of the adjacent service numbers reveals that he was part of a batch of Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers who were transferred to the MGC. With their original unit they had five digit service numbers running between 155** and 157**, although the order doesn’t run in parallel – 18650 was 15587 Joseph Harper, 18652 was 15606 William John Holmes and 18653 was 15574 William Hamilton.

 

A check of the MiCs in the National Archive catalogue brought up a potential match. There is a card for a 15599 John Henry which only shows him as serving with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. However that man is recorded as having died on the 1st July 1916.

So do we have a mystery, a spy or someone using a fake id to gain access to medical services?

 

Patient 21002 Private 40961 G. Laker, 11th Essex – condition Laryngitis.

 

A check of the adjacent service numbers with the Essex Regiment showed a theme of men being transferred to the Northamptonshire Regiment. A flash check showed five digit service numbers falling between 249** and 252**. Looking at MiC’s for a G. Laker who served with the Northamptonshire Regiment led to a MiC for a Private 25100 George Laker. There is no mention of a previous unit, but he did go on to serve with the Labour Corps, (S/N 255325). As Labour Corps Service Medal Rolls tend to be low on details, I didn’t take that as confirmation either way. Fortunately the service records for this man have survived – in particularly the ‘Casualty Form – Active Service’.

 

Originally with the Northants for training, he was transferred to the 11th Bn. Essex Regiment on arrival at 17 I.B.D. in France on the 23rd October 1916, joining up with this Bn on the 26th in the field.

 

 On the 7th January 1917 he was admitted at 1 “C.R.S.” from 18 Field Ambulance suffering from Laryngitis.

On the 15th January 1917 he was admitted to 31 Ambulance Train from 1 C.C.S.

On the 16th January 1917 he was admitted to 7 Canadian General Hospital, Etaples.

On the 30th January 1917 he was admitted to 6 Con Dep, Etaples

On the 6th February 1917 he was admitted to 5 Con Dep, (location illegible)

On the 23rd February 1917 he was admitted to 16 General Hospital, Le Treport, with Mumps.

On the 19th March he was transferred to England for his ‘debility’

In June he was assigned to 435th Agricultural Company and never returned to a Theatre of War.

 

The service number of 28100 does crop up in the records but with no clear indication of when it was in use.

 

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Patient 21199 Corporal T2/19489 J T Lees. ASC attached Royal Engineers, 1st Field Survey.

 

The neighbouring service numbers didn’t provide any clues so I used the National Archive catalogue search facility to look for a “J.Lees” who had a MiC and who had served in the Army Service Corps, and then used a Mk1 eyeball check for any who had a middle initial “T”. One of the two potential matches stood out – Corporal M2/17689 John T. Lees ASC who became Corporal 357637 Royal Engineers.

 

The associated service medal roll has the M2 prefix added afterwards. Given some of the common mis-readings to get from 17689 to 19489 isn’t that difficult.

 

The other possibility was a James Taylor Lees who had service number T2/015260. Right prefix but difficult to see how the two numbers could get confused.

 

Unfortunately service records have not survived for either man.

 

 

Patient 21201 Lance Corporal 7612 L H Gunner, 12th Londons

 

As it’s been possible to identify examples that were renumbered shortly after the events reviewed here, I took another look at this man. A run through of the adjacent S/N’s brought up the following.

 

7611 Richard Wiggins, 12th Londons, became 473764, 12th Londons.

7613 James Hirons, 12th Londons, became 473766 12th Londons

 

Logically this man should be 473765 but there is no MiC held for that number.

Going back one in the renumbering series gives 473763, 12th Londons was previously 7608 Herbert Brunner, 12th Londons. While there are no surviving Service Records, and the detailed London Regiment Service Medal Roll shows him in France until the 20th September 1917, I think Herbert Brunner would have to be considered as a candidate.    

 

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Patient 21214 Private 35168 G R White, 2nd Durham Light Infantry

 

I could not find this service number or nearby numbers in use by the DLI. While searching for adjacent numbers what I did come across was a group of men transferred to the Yorkshire Light Infantry who did have such numbers.

 

36166 YLI John S Richardson has been 3590 DLI

35167 YLI Frederick Ryan had been 3517 DLI

 

35169 YLI James Robinson had been 2266 DLI

35172 YLI James Collins had been 8180 DLI

 

However 35168 YLI turned out to be William Robson ex DLI 8062. Back to the drawing board.

 

Patient 21236 Private 32234 J Kentish 1/6th Bedfordshires.

 

I could not find any neighbouring service numbers that helped and the only match for the surname Kentish serving with the Bedfordshire Regiment was 7323 John T Kentish who became Royal Defence Corps 79084. The service medal roll for the Royal Defence Corps shows he served abroad with the 6th Battalion Bedfords from the 2nd December 1916 to the 4th May 1917. I could not track down any surviving service records. Would seem a co-incidence that there were two men called J Kentish who were serving with the 6th Battalion at the same time and for one the paper trail consists solely of one admin report from an Ambulance Train. However there are other men with a Myalgia diagnosis who are sent back to the UK almost straight away, so for now he remains just a possible.

 

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Patient 21388 Private 32156 H. Rainbow, 6th Bedfords

 

I tried looking at service numbers on either side to see if they had been renumbered, but they hadn’t. However they were almost in alphabetical order as a result of an earlier numbering so I tried the VM & BWM Service Medal Roll. There, where it should be, was Private 32156 Harry Rainbow, formerly 4429, both Bedfordshire Regiment. Abutting either side of the 32156 S/N are letter “H” in ink and in the Remarks there is an illegible comment about “Issue”. I suspect the issue of the Medal was on hold for some reason. The Medal Index Card has been prepared with the Service Number shown as 4439, and that is how it is catalogued at the National Archive. But looking at the card it looks like a separate hand has written at the top “ *4429”, with the asterisk also being shown against the VM & BWM issued. There is no obvious surviving service records.

 

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Patient 21398 Rifleman 4637 G. Stiles, 9th London.

 

I thought he was possibly 391630 9th Londons George E Stiles who had been renumbered.

 

A search of nearby service numbers to 391630 shows:-

 

391626 John Watkins, 9th Londons, was previously 4620, 9th Londons

391627 Frederick C Jones, 9th Londons, was previously 4621, 9th Londons.

 

391632 Frederick J. Haines, 9th Londons, was previously 4634 9th Londons

391633 James Pringle, 9th London, was previously 4635 9th Londons.

 

So while Georges’ new service number is slightly out of sequence, it would seem a very strong likelihood that his new service number was 391630. As he would go on to serve in the Labour Corps it would also explain why his earlier service number wasn’t captured on MiC’s and Service Medal Rolls.

 

 

Patient 21407 Rifleman 10060 J Horton, 5th Londons.

 

This is another one where I looked at neighbouring service numbers.

 

10056 William Ager, 5th Londons, became 303967, 5th Londons.

10057 Ernest H Belton, 5th Londons, became 303968, 5th Londons.

 

10061 Albert E.G Wright, 5th Londons became 303972, 5th London

 

Which would indicate that man we should be looking for is 303971. That 5th London man is a Joseph G Horton, who would also serve with the Rifle Brigade as 63952. His medals were issued by the Rifle Brigade.

 

 

Patient 21412 Private 6275 H H Bullivant, 1/14 Londons.

 

I thought this was likely be 512456 Hubert H. Bullivant who had probably been renumbered.

 

A check of the surrounding service numbers for 512456 shows:-

 

512455 Alexander R Arnott, 14th Londons, was previously 6274, 14th Londons.

512458 Montague G Ewing, 14th Londons.

512460 Murray Hamilton, 14th Londons, was previously 6280, 14th Londons.

512461 Hearse, 14th Londons, was previously 6281, 14th Londons.

 

That seems to support the renumbering theory.

 

 

Patient 21414 Private 1644 P. Mahoney.

 

I thought this was likely to be 200236 who I suspected had been renumbered.

 

A check of the surrounding service numbers for 200236 shows:-

 

200234 Walter B Willis, 1st Londons, was previously 1639 1st Londons

200235 Edgar William Austin, 1st Londons, was previously 1643 1st Londons.

 

200238 James C Hillman, 4th Londons, was previously 1630 1st Londons

200240 William Jones, 1st Londons, was previously 1654 1st Londons.

 

Again that seems to support the renumbering theory.

 

 

So that for now is as far as I go with identifying the unidentifiable :)

 

Cheers

Peter

 

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There is no doubting of your strengths in ferreting out the correct details for these individuals and I thank you so much for your time and effort in doing so. Your support is really appreciated.

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On 21/01/2019 at 02:01, Bardess said:

There is no doubting of your strengths in ferreting out the correct details for these individuals

 

I really should get out more :-)

 

Sadly I can't leave a good data source like this without a bit of interpretation and analysis. I'm starting with the

before and after information. I’m sure most of this is already available, notably locations for the CCS’s

https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/locations-of-british-casualty-clearing-stations/

and hospitals

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/british-base-hospitals-in-france/

but there is no harm in producing some supporting evidence as confirmation. It does however indicate that even the information taken from primary sources is not to be completely trusted.

 

First of all there is for those men where it has been identified, the medical facility they were at before they entrained.

 

1 CCS

 

10 casualties, (2 combat, 8 non-combat).

They came from units of the 6th, 20th and 24th Divisions.

LLT has it at Chocques at this time.

1 entrained Lapugnoy, (15/01/17), rest from Chocques.

(18 CCS was at Lapugnoy at this time so may be in an error in that soldiers records).

 

 

1 / 2 London CCS

 

13 casualties, (all non-combat).

They came from units of the 5th, 37th, 49th and 56th Divisions.

LLT has it at Merville at this time.

All entrained Merville.

 

 

2 / 1 West Riding CCS

 

9 casualties, (1 combat, 7 non combat).

They came from units of the 5th and 6th Divisions, plus Corps level.

LLT has it at Lillers at this time.

6 entrained Lillers, 1 at Bethune.

 

 

3 / 1 West Riding CCS

 

1 casualty, (non-combat).

Came from the 6th Division.

No match on LLT.

Entrained at Lillers – should this have been 2/1 WRCCS?

 

 

7 CCS

 

9 casualties, (3 combat, 6 non-combat).

Came from 5th, 37th, 56th and 61st Divisions.

LLT has it at Merville at this time.

All entrained Merville

 

 

12 CCS

 

1 casualty, (non-combat).

Came from 37th Division.

LLT has it at Hazebrouck at this time.

Entrained Merville – should this be 1 / 2 London CCS??

 

 

23 CCS

 

5 casualties, (all non-combat),

Came from 21st and 24th Divisions, plus 1 Corps level unit.

LLT has it at Lozinghem at this time.

All entrained Lapugnoy.

 

 

32 CCS

 

8 casualties, (all non-combat)

Came from 5th, 20th and 37th Divisions.

LLT has it at St. Venant until February 1917.

All entrained St. Venant.

 

 

33 CCS

 

9 casualties, (1 combat, 8 non-combat).

Came from 5th, 6th and 21st Divisions.

LLT has it at Bethune.

Three entrained Bethune on the 19th January 1917.

All the others, 15th and 23rd, entrained Chocques.

 

 

Where they went to:-

 

1 Canadian General Hospital, Etaples

 

8 casualties, (2 combat, 6 non combat)

Not listed on the LLT site.

All detrained Etaples

 

 

7 Canadian General Hospital, Etaples

 

18 casualties, (4 combat, 14 non-combat).

Three of the service records don’t show location.

One is for 7 General Hospital, Etaples, but the British unit of that name was at Boulogne.

LLT shows at Etaples.

All detrained Etaples.

 

 

8th Red Cross Hospital

 

1 casualty, (non-combat)

Location of hospital not shown on his service record.

LLT shows as Paris-Plage.

Detrained Etaples

 

 

11th General Hospital.

 

3 casualties, (all non-combat), two record hospital at Dannes, one at Camiers.

The two places are adjoining.

LLT shows at Camiers.

All detrained Camiers.

 

 

18th General Hospital.

 

121 casualties, (19 combat, 102 non-combat), three record hospital at Dannes, five at Camiers, the rest don’t specify.

The two places are adjoining.

LLT shows at Camiers.

Two detrained Etaples on the 15th.

All the rest detrained Camiers.

 

 

22nd General Hospital.

 

12 casualties, (all non-combat), five record hospital at Dannes, four at Camiers, three don’t specify.

The two places are adjoining.

LLT shows at Camiers.

All detrained Camiers.

 

 

24th General Hospital.

 

4 casualties, (all non-combat).

2 detrained at Etaples on the 16th and the hospital is shown at Etaples.

2 detrained at Camiers on the 20th. One soldiers records shows the hospital at Camiers, the other at Etaples.

LLT shows at Etaples.

 

 

26th General Hospital, Etaples.

 

7 casualties, (2 combat, 5 non-combat).

LLT shows Etaples.

All detrained Etaples.

 

 

39th General Hospital

 

1 casualty, (non-combat).

LLT shows known to have been at Le Havre June 1916 but with a section operating at Marseilles.

Detrained Etaples – Gonorrhoea infection.

 

 

51st General Hospital, Etaples.

 

4 casualties, (all non-combat, STD’s).

LLT shows Etaples – Specialist Venereal Disease Hospital.

All detrained Etaples.

 

 

57th General Hospital

 

1 casualty, (non-combat).

LLT has it at Marseilles but only from July 1917 onwards.

Detrained Etaples – Gonorrhoea infection.

 

 

St Johns Ambulance Brigade, Etaples

 

12 casualties, (all non-combat).

Two of the related service records don’t show a location for the hospital.

LLT has it at Etaples.

All detrained Etaples.

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

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Next part of the analysis – the military hierarchy.

 

There are 686 individuals identified as being patients aboard 31 Ambulance train between the 15th January 1917 and the 24th January 1917 involving three trips.

 

For all but 42 of the 686 names, (6%), it’s proved possible to identify the division of which they were part of at this time.

 

-        This includes the “n\a” (not applicable) where the unit concerned was a Corps, (RGA) or Army, (RFC Squadron) level one.

-        That 42 is made up of  - 16 RFA where there is either no brigade or it’s not clear where the unit is Battery or Brigade; 16 ASC where I can’t identify a Company or where the Company was attached; 4 Royal Engineers serving with the “ROD”; and 6 came from Infantry Units where either the Battalion is not stated or did not serve in France & Flanders. In those last cases it has not proved possible to identify the relevant battalion from the Service Medal Rolls.

 

The Divisions as far as I can tell were on the south face of the Ypres salient and along the line southwards towards Lens and Vimy at this time, (based on where they entrained from & cross referenced to a couple of Battalion War Diaries). Lots more work could be done on that.

 

It would appear 586 of the names were in units that were in the ORBAT for the opening day of the Battle of Arras, (and anecdotally several of the names listed would die in that campaign). That accounts for 85% of the names, and would provisionally put them in either First Army or Third Army. The Army information needs to be taken with caution – I could not find online an ORBAT for the British Army in France for January 1917 and at least two of the Divisions, (5th & 63rd), was in a different Army at the end of the Somme campaign in November 1916. Similarly the British Army ORBAT shows the 5th Division in 13th Corps, the First Army Reserve, while the Canadian Corps ORBAT for the attack on Vimy Ridge shows 5th Division attached from 1st Corps. The Battalion War Diary for the 1st Norfolks, part of 5th Division mentions them being in Fourth Army at the end of October 1916 in an operational order. There is no reference in the diary to this changing between then and the opening of the Battle of Arras.

 

I mentioned earlier when looking at the “before” and “after” steps in these mens medical treatment that the admissions and discharges book for the 18th General Hospital for the same period is also on FMP and has details of a number of Canadians who also arrived aboard 31 Ambulance Train during this period. A quick and dirty check shows most the units the men were coming from would be part of the Candian Corps that would storm Vimy Ridge at the opening of the Battle of Arras.

 

Lots more work could be done on this but it does seem to paint a consistent story.

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

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Finally the brief “medical” analysis

 

Of the 686 men who travelled aboard 31 Ambulance Train, 73 were combat injuries, (11%) and 613 were non-combat, (89%)

 

That’s based almost solely on the Diseases\ Wounds \ Injuries entry in the original source data. One of those I originally classified as a combat injuries was shown as “Old GSW knee”.

However the service records for that individual survived and show that the wound was as a result of an accidental rifle discharge by a fellow soldier and would seem to have more in common with the accidental woundings that have been identified for other soldiers.

 

Of course it’s arbitrary – I can recall at least one man I’ve researched previously who sprained his ankle while jumping down into a German Trench during the assault. I wonder how his injury would have been shown in this log? Meanwhile it has to be assumed that all the diagnosis of GSW \ SW \ Shrapnel Wound \ Gas unless stated otherwise were non-accidental \ non-friendly fire and not the opposite.

 

For the non-combat injuries I’ve used my laymans knowledge, supplemented by Google, to try and group them together into hopefully self evident categories to make analysis more insightful and to standardise some of the wording in the original document where different abbreviated forms \ spellings have been used for the same thing. There are some big assumptions – a sprain always results from an accident, for example.

 

The fuller analysis is in the document I’ll attach next, but for now I’ll concentrate on four areas.

 

Category: Sexually Transmitted Disease, (STD).

Covers original diagnoses of:-

? Gonorrhea \ Dysuria [gonorrhoea] \ Gonorrhea \ Syphilis \ V sore \ VD Gonorrhea \ Venereal disease \ Venereal NYD \ Venereal sore \ Venereal warts.

 

Chris Baker in his piece on the evacuation chain for wounded and sick soldiers on the LLT quotes that “The largest percentage of sick men were venereal disease cases at 18.1 per 1000 casualties.”.

https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/the-evacuation-chain-for-wounded-and-sick-soldiers/

 

That would equate to 1.81%. In fact for our sample we have 31 cases, making it 4.52% of all casualties and 5.06% of all non combat casualties.

 

Category: Trench Foot

Covers original diagnoses of:-

Double Trench feet \ Trench feet \ Trench foot.

 

The same article goes on to state, “trench foot was next with 12.7”.

 

That would equate to 1.27%. This sample of the British Army produces 24 cases, making it 3.50% of all casualties and 3.92% of non-combat casualties.

 

Category: PUO & Trench Fever

Covers original diagnoses of:-

NYD & pyrexia \ NYD fever \ NYD Pyrexia \ PUO \ PUO and ICT heel \ PUO impetigo \ Pyrexia \ Pyrexia & NYD \ Pyrexia NYD \ Trench fever

 

Not mentioned in that article and given the catch all ‘not a clue’ nature of the diagnosis that’s probably understandable. However the original diagnoses listed covers an amazing 116 individuals – that’s 16.91% of all casualties and 18.92% of non-combat casualties.

 

Category: VDH & DAH

Covers original diagnoses of:-

DAH \ Tachycardia \ VDH

 

I’d never even heard of VDH &DAH until I came across an article on the LLT a couple of years back.

 

VDH and DAH are two acronyms that are often seen in men’s army service records. They both relate to heart trouble.

 

VDH means valvular disease of the heart. It is the more serious of the two and implies some organic disease or heart malfunction;

 

DAH means disorderly action of the heart, sometimes called “effort syndrome” or “soldier’s heart”. Often the result of stress or fatigue, it does not imply there was any organic disease.

 

From “Medical Diseases of the War” by Sir Arthur F. Hurst (London: Edward Arnold, 1918):

“The importance of the effort syndrome can be gathered from the fact that 2,503 out of 33,919, or 7.4 per cent, of the soldiers and sailors invalided from the services from the beginning of the war up to May 31st 1916, were discharged on account of ‘heart disease,’ and by May 1918 the number had risen to 36,569. The problem of invaliding on account of ‘soldier’s heart’ became such a serious one that the War Office and Medical Research Council arranged for the segregation of heart cases at the Hampstead Hospital under Thomas Lewis. Later the work was transferred to Colchester, and finally centres were established for heart cases in each home command. At the same time it became recognised in France that many cases were being sent to England with an erroneous diagnosis of valvular disease of the heart and still more with trivial cardiac symptoms. In 1916 all cases sent to one base diagnosed as VDH and DAH were collected in a single centre under Colonel W. E. Hume, and in 1917 similar centres were started at four other bases. At these centres DAH was so successful that 50 per cent of cases were detained for duty in France, but far too many escaped diagnosis and reached England without having passed through any heart centre.”

Source: https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/what-were-vdh-and-dah/

 

Our sample has 15 men with one of those original diagnoses. (2.19%  all / 2.45% non-combat).

 

Lastly, what constituted a “Blighty”, or at least repatriation for treatment. Of the 686 men in the original document, it has been possible to glean something for 208 of them as to what happened after they were initially assessed \ treated at the hospital they were moved to. Note that’s a comparatively small proportion (30%) of the sample and so any conclusion could change dramatically if a fuller set of data was available.

 

I have also had to use a proxy in some cases for whether someone was treated in the UK. Long term sick would be moved onto the establishment of the regimental depot for pay, admin and discipline while they received their treatment. Where a individuals service records lacks medical details but shows he served on the Home Front from a date less than a month after he was aboard 31 Ambulance Train and he was posted to the Depot, then it’s assumed he was hospitalised.

 

Of the 208, 131 would go on to receive treatment in the UK, (63%) and 77 would be treated in France, (37%).

 

Of the 131 treated in the UK, 23 were combat casualties, (18%) and 108 were non-combat, (82%)

 

Of the 77 treated in France, 8 were combat casualties, (10%) and 69 were non-combat, (90%).

 

So if you had a combat injuries, based on this small sample of 31 casualties, you only had a 74% chance that it would see you treated in the UK, whereas for non-combatants the equivalent figure was 61%, (177 cases).

 

I’ll tidy up the spreadsheet and attach it shortly,

 

Cheers,

Peter

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Tidying up allowed me to find further treatment details on nearly 60 individuals!  The forum only accepts spreadsheet attachments in XML which has required a major re-work and several false starts. Hopefully what is there now is self-explanatory. Please PM me if anyone wants the spreadsheet in a more useful format.

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

Edit - after all that it has still stripped the statistical analysis out and that was only posted in as a picture - d'oh!

 

31 Ambulance Train January 1917 GWF.xml

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Good thread, although none of these named casualties are in the war diary.

 

Andy

 

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Andy,

 

Any idea what those abbreviations stand - OLW \ ORSS et al. I can probably guess but would be good to know if they are set out anywhere.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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