Bardess Posted 2 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 2 December , 2018 Page 18 Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/ Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained 21389 1/3 London C 4691 Pte Price, M Diarrhoea 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21390 9 London C 6486 Pte Leon, C Influenza 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21391 RFA B 57707 Cpl Moore, C PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21392 RE 285 107752 Spr Mills, F Tonsillitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21393 13 Lond HQ 2800 Pte Coles, V ICT toe R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21394 8 Somerset C 29977 Pte Tann, J PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21395 5 Lon C 2820 L/Cpl Munden, W Ac bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21396 RFA 52 21015 Bdr Haldenby, G Syn knee R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21397 13 R Fus 3 24213 Pte Frew, E Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21398 9 Lond D 4637 Rfn Stiles, G GSW thigh L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21399 8 Lincoln C 40844 Pte Preston, J Nephritis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21400 12 Lond D 6530 Pte Poyntz, A Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21401 12 Lond C 4662 Pte Seeley, A GSW both shldrs 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21402 RFA 123 124746 Gnr Harrod, J PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21403 13 Lond A 5517 Pte Bailey, C GSW shldr L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21404 13 R Fus 2 214059 Pte Horton, G PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21405 14 Lond D 5752 Pte Daniels, W Diarrhoea 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21406 2 KOSB B 25524 Pte Wilson, R Lac hand L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21407 5 Lond A 10060 Rfn Horton, J PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21408 14 Lond A 6548 Pte Gledhill, H Diarrhoea 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples Ward D 21409 7 Middx D 2753 Pte Higham, J E ICT feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21410 1/13 Lond C 6274 Pte Laker, E H GSW leg L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21411 4 Lond D 7218 Pte Graig, G GSW contusion of side 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21412 1/14 Lond B 6275 Pte Bullivant, H H Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21413 13 R B A 27419 L/Cpl Kirby, F H Rheumatism 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21414 1 Lond C 1644 Pte Mahoney, P Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21415 10 LNL D 25344 Pte Conboy, P Albuminuria 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21416 8 E Lancs A 36978 Pte Emmott, W NYD & vomiting 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21417 8 E Lancs B 34150 Pte Douglas, R Albuminuria 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21418 1 Leicest B 7989 Pte Wain, J W Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 2 December , 2018 Share Posted 2 December , 2018 On 29/11/2018 at 12:40, Bardess said: I'm really unsure where the information came from, whether it was orally from the patient or a written chart for each individual from the medic. Either way it's great that most of them have been found and thanks for your continued support I'm assuming that however the man breaks into the medical chain of evacuation there will be some scope for human error on the paperwork. Also, even after several decades of compulsory education, illiteracy rates were still significant amongst the men being drawn into the armed forces. So lots of scope for "garbage in, garbage out". Going back to the names on the list. Page 16. Private 19/1839 E Tebay, West Yorkshire Regiment – at first glance it seems this is probably 15/1939 Ernest Tebay, West Yorkshire Regiment. His card is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/19/186661. However the MiC says he was discharged medically unfit on the 29th December 1916. So unless either someone else used his name or the date on the MiC is incorrect then that would appear to rule him out. Private 10589 W Mathers, Royal Field Artillery – possibly Gunner 11587 William Mathers, Royal Field Artillery. MiC held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/13/167445 First landed in France on the 5th October 1915. He qualified for the 1915 Star, the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Private 6464 H E Roberts, London Regiment – may be a total co-incidence but there is a MiC held at the National Archive under reference number WO 372/17/24432 for a Private 6462 Hubert Roberts, The Queen’s Regiment who would also serve with the 19th Battalion London Regiment. The MiC gives no clues as to the order in which he served, not even which regiment issued his Victory Medal and British War Medal. My logic for considering him being that this man suffered gun shot injuries to his mouth and nose and so might have had trouble speaking. If he still had his old unit details on him, like an old I.D. tag, or shoulder titles, depending on which way round he served with those regiments, then the two sets of details may have been conflated as the medical clerks searched for details of who he was. Page 17. Bombardier 85257 P Byrne, Royal Field Artillery – worth considering is Acting-Bombardier 88275 Percy M Byrne, Royal Field Artillery. MiC held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/3/227483 He first landed in France on the 14th October 1915 but that MiC only shows him being issued with the 1915 Star. His Victory Medal and British War Medal are on a separate MiC,WO 372/3/148364, but his rank then is shown as Gunner. Private 21035 W Watson, Warwickshire Regiment – possibly Private 21055 Walter Watson, Royal Warwickshire Regiment. The catalogue entry for his MiC at the National Archive has him as “2105” Walter Watson and their preview scan attached to the catalogue shows a fifth digit that is lost into the blackening at the edge of the image. However via my free account on Ancestry I can see it is definitely 21055. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Private 7026 A Kearsey, London Regiment – possibly worth considering is Private 7026 John Kenealy, 18th London Regiment. He would also serve as 4703 13th London Regiment. His MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/11/130369 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Page 18 Private 4691 M Price, London Regiment - possibly 4691 Matthew Paice, 3rd London Regiment. He was also Private 265423 East Kent Regiment – the MiC does not give a clue as to which order or which regiment issued the medals. His MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/15/92274 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Private 6530 A Poyntz, London Regiment - probably the soldier whose MiC is shown as Private 493321 London Regiment in the name of Albert William Poyntz. Reference in the catalogue is WO 372/16/67667. His unit is shown as 13th London Regiment, he enlisted on the 12th December 1915 and was discharged on the 6th September 1917 as no longer physically fit for service. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge. The potential link to the man on the 31st Ambulance Train is on the card itself. Above the space for the Regimental Number is written “6520” preceded by a “X”. I believe the X relates to the fact that the medals were issued with this service number rather than the 493321 one. Poyntz is indexed on both the National Archive site and Ancestry with just the regimental number 493321. (Card attached) Private 5517 C Bailey, London Regiment - virtually the same story as Private Poyntz above. He is probably Private 492450 Charles William Bailey, 13th London Regiment whose MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/1/175950 His unit is shown as 13th London Regiment, he enlisted on the 12th December 1915 and was discharged on the 26th December 1917 for a reason I don’t readily recognise. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge. Again the link is what’s shown on the card. Above the space for the Regimental Number is written “5517” preceded by a “X”. While the National Archive only indexes him as 492450, Ancestry indexes him with both. (Card attached) Private 214059 G Horton, Royal Fusiliers – possibly Private 24059 George W Horton whose Medal Index Card is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/10/48320 He would go on to be Private 308377 Tank Corps. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal which appear to have been issued by the Tank Corps. Private 25524 R Wilson, Kings Own Scottish Borderers – possibly Private 25527 Robert Wilson, King’s Own Scottish Borderers whose MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/22/10898 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Private 6274 E H Laker, London Regiment I wonder if the details for Laker and “Graig” have become mixed up, if only because there is a Medal Index Card for a Private 7828 Ernest H Laker, 13th London Regiment which is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/11/223178 He also served with Regimental number 493753 in the same unit. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Private 6275 H H Bullivant, London Regiment - one to consider is a Private Hubert H Bullivant who served in the 14th London Regiment before transferring to the R.A.F. The ony service number shown for his time with the London Regiment is 512456 but as his medals were issued by the RAF, service number 318460, they may not have shown earlier service numbers on his MiC. The card itself is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/3/165631 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. As a quick check I had a look at a few of the service numbers surrounding 512456. Most drew a blank on MiC’s 512455 14th London had previously been 6274 14th London. (Alexander R.Arnott) 512458 14th London (Montague Ewing) 512460 14th London had previously been 6280 14th London. (Murray Hamiliton). 512461 London had previously been 6281 London. (Indexed at the National Archive only as “Hearse” – there is a thumb on the scan which obscures the relevant details, although his unit is definitely the 14th. Ancestry has first names as Arthur S.) Given the way the renumbering has been applied in the 14th Battalion I would have to say that Hubert Bullivant has to be a serious contender for the man on the train. Hope that helps, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 3 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 3 December , 2018 Thanks, Peter, and I hope it helps those looking for rellies in the future. Only 4 more pages to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 3 December , 2018 Share Posted 3 December , 2018 (edited) Apologies - forget to attach those MiCs in my haste to get to the dinner table :-) Edited 3 December , 2018 by PRC Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 5 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 5 December , 2018 Page 19 Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/ Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained 21419 ASC 491 Coy 223662 Pte Belwood, A Pleurisy 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21420 1/13 Lond C 4892 Pte Turbutt, F A GSW ankle R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21421 AOC 1035 S/Sgt Irwin, G Inf stomach 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21422 13 KRR D 5229 Rfn Watkins, C Synov knee 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21423 2 N & D D 50019 Pte Massey, J Laryngitis tonsillitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21424 1 Devons 5 38056 Pte Facer, A Supp : inflam 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21425 10 R Fus B 52119 Pte Schule, F ICT arm, PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21426 9 Norfolks A 15385 Pte Seaman, F Asthma 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21427 RFA 15 Bde 1893 Dvr Gillard, P PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21428 1 Devon B 6815 Pte Ward, R F Buried week ago in mine explosion 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21429 7 Northants C 17658 Pte Pond, W Pharyngitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21430 3 R B D 23766 Pte Monger, F Pyrexia NYD 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21431 1 DCLI C 18411 L/Cpl Taylor, A Inj ankle R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21432 2 N & D C 70418 Pte Gregory, F Laryngitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21433 14 R Wark A 15/297 L/Cpl Tierney, J Psoriasis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21434 9 Lond B 3757 Rfn Slough, E GSW thigh L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21435 2 Leins D 4948 Pte Cronin, P Pleurisy 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21436 12 Glos D 27348 Pte Townsend, O Pneumonia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21437 13 London B 4882 Pte Dewley, G PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21438 1 N Staff B 26612 Pte Edinborough, H W Nephritis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21439 11 Essex D 40586 Pte Rycraft, J Pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21440 RFA 56 DAC 82484 Dvr Hursthouse, W Abscess butt 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21441 15 DLI B 53324 Pte Jackson, S A Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21442 8 R W K D 4833 L/Cpl Warnett, F Tonsillitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21443 ASC MT ATS Col 225993 Dvr Simcox, S H Epilepsy 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21444 1 Buffs C 12862 Pte Willcox, C F PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21445 8 Queens C 21892 L/Cpl Plummer, F Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21446 MGC 167 32958 Pte Stephens, W PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21447 11 R Warks D 20373 Pte Willis, J H PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21448 9 R Sussex C 16617 Cpl Talbot, C A Pleurisy 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PRC Posted 5 December , 2018 Share Posted 5 December , 2018 (edited) Page 18. Rifleman 4637 G Stiles, London Regiment . Worth considering is Private George E Stiles whose actual Medal Index Card shows him as 9th London Regiment. Although he is shown as service number 391630, his medals were actually issued by the Labour Corps, with whom he was Private 575661. As this was only a MiC, the clerks preparing the MiC’s might not have been that bothered about earlier service numbers. MiC is held under reference WO 372/19/60403 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge. Private 5752 W Daniels, London Regiment. Possibly Private 5751 William S.J. Daniel, 14th London Regiment. He subsequently served with the Labour Corps as Private 353001. MiC is held under reference WO 372/5/160439 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Private 1644 P Mahoney, London Regiment. Worth considering is Private Patrick Mahoney whose actual Medal Index Card shows him as 1st London Regiment. Although he is shown as service number 200236, his medals were actually issued by the Labour Corps, with whom he was Private 665837. As that looks like a Territorial Force renumbering range for his service with the London Regiment and this was only a MiC, the clerks preparing the MiC’s might not have been that bothered about earlier service numbers. MiC is held under reference WO 372/13/84242 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Page 19 Private 4882 G. Dewley, London Regiment. Almost certainly Private 4882 George Bewley, 13th London Regiment. MiC held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/2/128890 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He also served with the Royal Defence Corps but it’s unclear from the MiC in what order and which issued his medals. Cheers, Peter Edited 5 December , 2018 by PRC Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 5 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 5 December , 2018 Wow. Is that the closest we've come with only one outstanding? Nice one, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 7 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 7 December , 2018 Page 20 Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/ Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained 21449 1/13 Lond C 4738 Pte Webster, C GSW chest wall L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21450 13 R B C 27468 Pte Foot, J Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21451 14 DLI C 26841 Pte Pearce, C Wds to eyes 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21452 13 R B A 203295 Rfn Richards, E Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21453 ASC MT M2/ 077625 Pte Dance, F M ICT feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples Ward E 21454 2 DLI D 45414 Pte Harrison, G Pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21455 11 Essex D 16757 Pte Moore, S Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21456 1 Cheshires 25578 Drum Parry, F Suffering from gas NYD 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21457 ASC 2 Aut Bus Coy 6804 Cpl Hedley, F C Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21458 11 Essex C 6543 Sgt Tye, F GSW arm R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21459 1 Bedfords D 40065 Pte Messenger, E A Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21460 1 Buffs B 13353 Pte Bacon, E NYD pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21461 2 DLI C 23973 Sgt Clasper, G E GSW hand L arm L & chest 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21462 1 Beds D 43000 Pte Baxter, A W Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21463 1 Beds D 32031 Pte De Gruchy, J Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21464 3 R B C 587 Cpl Lowe, S NYD pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21465 1 Beds D 31113 Pte Smith, S F Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21466 1 E Surreys att 95 TMB 10621 L/Cpl Hagger, J PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21467 RE 11 Corps HQ Sigs 74835 Spr Gray, A Myalgia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21468 12 R Fus 1 22619 Pte Tippen, B NYD pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21469 1 R W Kents D 6291 Pte Knowles, E Jaundice 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21470 1 Beds 33363 Pte Britton, C W Tubercle lung 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21471 1 KOSB D 28608 Sgt Gordon, R Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21472 12 London D 4256 L/Cpl Edwards, A PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21473 9 London D 6486 Rfn Dolbin, H R GSW head 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21474 1 Linc C 27038 Pte Baker, G W Pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21475 13 R Fus 4 16364 Pte Lawrence, F PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21476 RFC 10 Sec 2 Coy 42236 2/AM Rouse, B T Stric urethra 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21477 12 Lond Sig 7541 Rfn James, T GSW thigh L [acc] 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21478 13 L Fus HQ 22909 Pte Towers, A E Inflam stomach 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 8 December , 2018 Share Posted 8 December , 2018 Lance Corporal 4256 A. Edwards, London Regiment (12th) – one to consider is Corporal Ailwyn Lewis Edwards, 12th London Regiment. Although his card shows his regimental number as 471502, his medals were issued by the Labour Corps with whom he served as 586875. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal and was also issued with the Silver War Badge. I took a quick look at the surrounding London Regiment numbers to see if there was a consistant renumbering. 471494 was previously 4237 12th London 471499 was previously 4250 12th London 471500 was previously 4253 12th London --- 471504 was previously 4259 12th London 471505 was previously 4260 12th London (number from card not NA catalogue) 471506 was previously 4261 12th London Rifleman 6486 H R Dolbin, London Regiment (9th) – probably Private 6489 Henry R. Dollin, 9th London Regiment, later renumbered 39271 in the same unit. He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 8 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 8 December , 2018 Excellent research, Peter. Many thanks Page 21 Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/ Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained 21479 RE 2/2 Lond F Coy 3130 L/Cpl Stannard, C H GSW thigh R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21480 1 Leicesters B 10662 Cpl Spicer, W Bronch pneumonia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21481 TMB * 71 9787 Pte Jackson, A Influenza 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21482 6 Beds A 32247 Pte Pedder, H PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21483 9 London D 7119 Rfn Rumble, C GSW face 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21484 11 Essex C 33957 Pte Thompson, H S M Gas poisoning [shell] 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21485 11 Essex B 40924 Cpl Lawson, S ICT arms 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21486 11 Leicesters B 23156 Pte Mould, L Appendicitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21487 1 N Staffs A 25045 Pte Chambers, A Trench foot 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21488 13 KRR C 10180 Rfn Phillips, R PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21489 1 R Fus D 15504 Pte Boyd, A GSW thigh L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21490 1/4 London C 3363 L/Cpl Neame, D C Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21491 12 London B C/7365 Rfn Eason, A Trench feet 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21492 13 London A 6506 Pte Styles, H GSW shldr L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21493 12 London C 5919 Rfn Dredge, S J GSW arm L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21494 RFA 126 Bde 95685 Gnr Chapman, W H Ac bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21495 12 London 5968 Rfn Grossmith, H R W Myalgia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Merville Etaples 21496 6 Beds C 28262 Pte Shaw, F H PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21497 16 L N Lancs B 23895 Pte Greenwood, A Myalgia 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples Ward L 21498 6 Beds A 12082 Pte Austin, A Albuminuria 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21499 8 Linc D 14775 Sgt Beach, D Myalgia 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21500 RE att 1 RND 5463 Spr Cassleden, A L Bron & DAH 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21501 11 Warw B 11564 Pte Archer, H Myalgia 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21502 1 DCLI B 27412 Pte Snelgrove, W Tonsillitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21503 6 Beds B 32006 Sgt Lawrance, F J PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21504 MGC 110 5854 Sgt Haigh, V PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21505 15 Warw B 1644 Cpl Thompson, R Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21506 RFC 25 Sq 5937 2/AM Fry, B PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21507 7 Leicesters B 36057 Pte Bamford, F VDH 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21508 9 KOYLI B 43630 Pte Mills, R Influenza 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples * ex Leicesters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PRC Posted 10 December , 2018 Share Posted 10 December , 2018 Private 9787 A. Jackson, Trench Mortar Battery (possibly ex Leicesters) – Private 9787 Albert Jackson, Leicestershire Regiment does seem to be the best match. Private 33957 H S M Thompson, Essex Regiment – worth considering is Private Henri S.M. Thompson, Essex Regiment, although his Regimental number is shown on his MiC as 3482. He would also serve with the Middlesex Regiment as G/92578. MiC is at the National Archive under reference WO 372/19/224100 Ancestry has Pension Records in the name of Henri Stanhope Millor Thompson which might be the same man and so might resolve the Regimental number issue. The familysearch website has a record for a Henri Stanhope Mellor Thompson who was 33956, 3rd Battalion Essex Regiment. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBL-S76W They also have another record for him as 33957 11th Battalion, Essex Regiment. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB5-YJ74 Private 11564 H. Archer, Royal Warwickshire Regiment – the National Archive has a MiC catalogued for a “1156” Private Henry Archer, Royal Warwickshire Regiment who would go on to serve with the Labour Corps as “648277”. He qualified for the 1915 Star, as well as the Victory Medal and the British War Medal, plus was issued with the Silver War Badge. However looking at the card , despite the best effort of the penmanship of the clerk concerned to disguise it, it looks to me as though his RWK number was 11564. Ancestry seem to agree as that’s the number thay have indexed it as. Card is at the National Archive under reference WO 372/1/107770 regards, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 11 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 December , 2018 Another great post, Peter Page 22 Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/ Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained 21509 RFA A/94 55332 Dvr Handley, W P Trench fever 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21510 RFA D/95 46681 Gnr Morgan, J Abscess axilla R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21511 RFC 25 Sqn 38994 2/AM Lawder, W Mastoiditis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21512 ASC att 186 S Bty 222727 Pte Armstrong, R I Albuminuria 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21513 15 DLI B 318 Pte Croft, G W Influenza 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21514 6 Leicest C 36034 Pte Stokes, G Bronchitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21515 RFC 25 Sqn 34476 2/AM Dudley, W Tuberculosis ? 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21516 RFA 21 DAC 64296 Cpl Wilcox, G A Urethral fistula 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21517 RE 129 Fld 63788 Spr Dutton, W GSW head 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21518 1 Ches A 49089 L/Cpl Riley, R K Septic hd 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21519 2 Y & L A 38086 Pte Williams, N PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21520 RFA X 24 TMB 639 Gnr Holt, H C Pleurisy ? 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21521 RFA D/15 70922 Gnr Johnson, G GSW thigh R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21522 8 Beds B 33255 Pte Colgan, L C PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21523 2 Y & L D 31144 Pte Keigan, G Incon urine 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21524 8 R W K C 7282 Pte Boniface, B GSW foot L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples Ward M 21525 6 Beds 31562 Pte Hebington, W Piles 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21526 1 Chesters 49367 Pte Edwards, W Boils 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21527 15 R War 23448 Pte McCarthy, J PUO 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21528 8 Buffs 1444 Pte Walters, W Bomb wd acc 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21529 1 DCLI 18560 Pte Rogers, W Tachycardia 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21530 15 R War 19227 Pte Smith, T Lumbago 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21531 1 DCLI 27771 Pte Gregory, A Hernia 23/1/17 24/1/17 St Venant Etaples 21532 12 Glosters 14983 L/Cpl Hunt, H Abscess neck 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21533 RFA 124 B 152080 Gnr Gibbons, J ICT leg 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21534 RGA 9 HB 58859 Dvr Conley, A NYD renal calculus 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21535 1 E Yorks 33296 Pte Baxter, T NYD pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21536 RGA 140 HB 2124 Gnr Cunnington, J Ac conjunctivitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21537 RFA 106 B 65081 Gnr Percival, F J Synov knee L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21538 ASC 608 161572 Pte Newstead, F Ischiorectal abscess 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertBr Posted 11 December , 2018 Share Posted 11 December , 2018 Bardess Do you know the route the train took? I have noted some 56th Div men and know they were in the Laventie area in Jan 1917. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 11 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 December , 2018 I'm afraid not, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 11 December , 2018 Share Posted 11 December , 2018 (edited) Corporal 64296 G A Wilcox, Royal Field Artillery – probably Corporal 64298 George Wilcox, Royal Field Artillery. The MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/21/157413 First entered a Theatre of War on the 11th September 1914 so qualified for the 1914 Star as well as the Victory Medal and the British War Medal, plus he was issued with the Silver War Badge. Looks like he may have been originally with the 38th Brigade, RFA. regards, Peter Edited 11 December , 2018 by PRC Formatting issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 11 December , 2018 Share Posted 11 December , 2018 Also came across this earlier. Private 13411 Abner Holgate, North Staffs, was admitted to the 22 General Hospital, Dannes on the 20th January 1917 with 'L.Ing. Hernia Sev.' By the 24th he would be in the Norfolk War Hospital, Thorpe, Norwich. Looking on the map Dannes is the next town up the coast from Camiers. So that would be:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 13 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 13 December , 2018 Excellent! Final page Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/ Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained 21539 2 DLI 26873 Pte Ward, A ICT legs 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21540 RE 254 T C 132439 Spr Dellow, F Inf mid ear 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21541 10 KOYLI 1588 L/Cpl Warhurst, J NYD pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21542 2 N & D 47436 Pte Elliott, C Laryngitis 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21543 8 Queens A 128 L/Cpl Cox, W NYD pyrexia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21544 12 Glosters 16526 Pte Tugwell, A Disloc thumb 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21545 RE 2 Durham Fld 1778 Spr Gray, R Stricture 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21546 RGA 180 Siege 102934 Gnr Holt, W A Hernia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21547 9 Norfolks 40168 Pte Chapman, S Osteoma humerus 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21548 ASC att 1 A Sup C 30115 Dvr Disney, W Spr ankle 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21549 1 Norfolks 40008 Pte Cousins, W H Hernia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21550 1 E Surrey 31173 Pte Bianchi, C H Ischiorectal abscess 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21551 MGC 15 60230 Pte Nield, H Haemorrhoids 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lillers Etaples 21552 14 DLI C 14439 Pte Todner, H ICT groin 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21553 RFA 94 B 34895 Gnr Nixon, R Diarrhoea 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21554 RE ROD 197717 Spr Mehegan, M ICT groin 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21555 ASC 55 M2/ 054327 Pte Hopkins, W DAH 23/1/17 24/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 21556 7 E Surrey 6066 Pte Bexfield, G F Pyrexia & NYD 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21557 1 Leicester 27017 Pte Burt, G W Trench fever 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21558 1 Leicester 407912 Pte Hudson, E Hammer toe 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21559 8 Queens 2339 L/Cpl Hardy, H J GSW forearm L 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21560 RE 22 Special 156589 Cpl Saunders, H GSW scalp 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21561 1 Buffs 37 Pte Stallwood, C Carbuncle 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21562 2 Y & Lancs 1970 Pte Watts, F L Aneurysmal varix 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21563 14 DLI 1537 Pte Handisides, A W GSW heel R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21564 8 Queens 7094 Pte Earl, G W Deafness NYD 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21565 1 R W K 12873 L/Cpl Davis, P Abscess Axilla 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21566 7 N F att 10 Yorks 33050 Pte Angrave, E Myalgia 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21567 1 DCLI 2292 Pte Dalton, S Epilepsy 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples 21568 1 E Surrey 31161 Pte Nash, P J ICT leg R 23/1/17 24/1/17 Chocques Etaples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 15 December , 2018 Share Posted 15 December , 2018 Private 47436 C Elliott, Sherwood Foresters – poss Private 47434 Cyril Elliott, Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment. He would also serve as 43372 Leicestershire Regiment. although it’s not clear from the MiC in what order. The MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/6/186781 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. Private 407912 E Hudson, Leicestershire Regiment – poss Private 40712 Ernest Hudson, Leicestershire Regiment. The MiC is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/10/81830 He qualified for the Victory Medal and the British War Medal. He was also issued with the Silver War Badge. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 16 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 16 December , 2018 Thank you Peter. I do hope that transcribing this register is of benefit to rellies or researchers alike. Who knows, there might be another in the offing in the New Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 27 December , 2018 Share Posted 27 December , 2018 On 16/11/2018 at 00:55, Bardess said: The first of 23 pages accessed on the recent FMP free weekend. Red = MIC found Index No Regt/Bn/Corps Sqdn/Bty/Co Regtl No Rank/Name Diseases/ Wounds/Injuries Admission Discharge Entrained Detrained Ward L Trip No 59 20883 9 Norfolks C 40162 Pte Meadows, W J Trench fever 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20884 9 Norfolks C 29853 Pte Bond, H L TB 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20885 2 Y & L A 20170 Pte Warburton, J Pyrexia NYD 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20886 1 DCLI D 23118 Pte Lashbrooke, C Pneumonia 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20887 1 E Kents D 10293 Pte Brown, D PUO 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20888 7 Northants B 40053 Pte Gardener, J GSW Leg L 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20889 RAMC 72 FA 102976 Pte Hirst, J H NYD Pyrexia 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20890 8 R W Surr A 1757 Pte O’Mara, J L GSW Leg L [acc] 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples 20891 13 Middx D 43232 Pte Webb, J Diarrhoea 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lapugnoy Etaples Ward M 20892 8 Buffs A 4791 Pte Newman, E C Ptorrhoea [?] 15/1/17 16/1/17 Chocques Etaples 20893 11 Essex 20069 Pte Turner, W SW Chest 15/1/17 16/1/17 Chocques Etaples 20894 1 R Fus 42498 Pte Francis, H Rupture 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20895 11 Leicester 22948 Pte Machin, G R S Ing Neuralgia 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20896 RFA 38/B 71093 Bdr Witherford, H NYD Pyrexia 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20897 9 R Sussex 7293 Pte Miles, J GSW Hand L 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20898 3 RB att RE 104 Fld 13518 Rfn Godkin, A Conjunctivitis 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20899 2 N & D 20384 Pte Ellis, A Haemorrhoids 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20900 1 Buffs 10422 Pte Thurlepy, H E Old Wd. Eye 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20901 11 Essex 31112 Pte Sapsford, A Inf of Larynx 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20902 9 R F att RE 170 C 3899 Pte McPhie, J Wd fingers L [acc] 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20903 1 R W K 7608 Pte Blackman, J P Goitre 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20904 2 KOSB 22537 Pte Mason, C ICT fingers 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20905 RE 8 Rly 15893 Spr Wood, J Displaced Semilunar 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20906 11 Essex 14148 Sgt Gray, S J Inf Larynx 15/1/17 16/1/17 Lillers Etaples 20907 10 Y & L D 6266 Pte Nicholson, B ICT finger 15/1/17 16/1/17 Merville Etaples 20908 10 LNL C 24494 Pte Moon, H ICT ankle 15/1/17 16/1/17 Merville Etaples 20909 1 DCLI HQ 6413 Pte Hopkins, H ???? sole of foot 15/1/17 16/1/17 Merville Etaples 20910 1 E Lancs A 13691 Pte Heyes, W ICT legs 15/1/17 16/1/17 Merville Etaples 20911 6 Beds A 43156 Pte Smith, A VDH 15/1/17 16/1/17 Merville Etaples 20912 10 LNL C 33130 Pte Bartholomew, J Myalgia 15/1/17 16/1/17 Merville Etaples First of an occasional series called "What happened next". While I can't prove that the other names on page 1 that entrained from the same location and detrained at the same location came through the same medical facitliies, it would be a reasonable working hypothesis. It also puts a different slant on what actually constituted a 'blighty' ! Cheers, Peter (WRCCS - I believe that's the West Riding Casualty Clearing Station). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 27 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 27 December , 2018 Nice one, Peter. Dates of movement would be great but it all adds to their stories nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 27 December , 2018 Share Posted 27 December , 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bardess said: Nice one, Peter. Dates of movement would be great but it all adds to their stories nonetheless Dates match - I'm intending to add a comment in the notes column if there is any discrepancy. Thus for Henry Edward Thurley his Casualty Form Active Service shows a move from the WRCCS to 31 Ambulance Train on the 15th January 1917 and on the 16th he is reported at 1 Canadian General Hospital, Etaples. The equivalent page for Evelyn Charles Newman, (sourced FindMyPast), is attached. It's just about possible to make out his progression through the medical evacuation chain for this period, but the dates all seem to tie up. Cheers, Peter Edited 27 December , 2018 by PRC Credit source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 27 December , 2018 Author Share Posted 27 December , 2018 Fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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