TEW Posted 5 May , 2015 Share Posted 5 May , 2015 Sorry Don Don, cross posting. That's 5500 George Simmonds' badge. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 5 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 5 May , 2015 No prob Tew, It will be interesting to see if it will be sold. Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 5 May , 2015 Share Posted 5 May , 2015 All, This SWB was in my collection until recently. It was sold to an Irish collector. I can assure you that I found no evidence of G Simmonds being wounded in Dublin during my research. A J Simmonds was wounded and I suspect the information has been conflated in error. I can also tell you that when I originally bought the SWB on ebay some years ago it was under the 'second chance' offer because the high bidder realised after purchase that G Simmonds was discharged with Psoriasis not a GSW. Even if there was provenance putting G Simmonds on Mount Street Bridge I am not sure I see a 2-3000 euro hammer price? regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 5 May , 2015 Share Posted 5 May , 2015 Mark, Even less likely to reach that hammer price if anyone googles the whole issue and ends up reading this thread!! I found the list of wounded in The Irish Times online J Simmonds is not IDd by number. I can find all these names in WO casualty lists except Sheldon. Smith & Snowden are listed in The Times 8th May. Sharpe 17th May (not in the image I know but number given as 5553). Sharpe did apply for a SWB and had badge No. 22466 I wonder if his SWB would fetch that sort of price?? Simmonds and Stroud The Times 25th May. If they were all wounded at Mount Bridge why the different dates for casualty list?? Smith & Snowden - that's 12 days from wounded to being in The Times. Also odd that the Sherwood Foresters appear to have the most instances of Previously reported wounded now reported not wounded. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchener's Bugle Posted 5 May , 2015 Share Posted 5 May , 2015 To coin an old phrase....... some thing is only worth what someone will pay for it............ but clearly that price is vastly inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elstevo Posted 6 May , 2015 Share Posted 6 May , 2015 I have a load of old junk that I was just going to throw out.... might take it to this auctioneer and earn a small fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 6 May , 2015 Share Posted 6 May , 2015 I see the auctioneers have updated their listing for this SWB and added much information posted on this forum over the last 24 hours. They are insisting that George Simmonds has been incorrectly listed as J Simmonds in the Irish Times. Quotes. Simmonds was shot during an attack on an Irish Volunteer position was wounded during the battle of Mount Street Bridge April 1916 he is listed in the Irish Times Rebellion Handbook as being wounded. And note what Mark, the previous owner of the SWB says. I found no evidence of G Simmonds being wounded in Dublin during my research Hope we get some feedback on the hammer price on Saturday. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 6 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 6 May , 2015 Thanks for the update Tew. Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 6 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 6 May , 2015 Also I noted that you can only start bidding at €1500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 6 May , 2015 Share Posted 6 May , 2015 Also I noted that you can only start bidding at €1500 I'll take two. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 6 May , 2015 Share Posted 6 May , 2015 " A very rare military award to a British soldier injured in this engagement." A somewhat ambiguous claim, surely? A Silver War Badge is hardly rare. Perhaps what the auction house means is that because the badge is linked to a British soldier wounded at Mount Street Bridge then it is a rare example. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 6 May , 2015 Share Posted 6 May , 2015 Snipped because the badge is linked to a British soldier wounded at Mount Street Bridge Moonraker Only linked by the auctioneers' description and not by any factual evidence. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted 6 May , 2015 Author Share Posted 6 May , 2015 Let the buyer beware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovetown Posted 6 May , 2015 Share Posted 6 May , 2015 So the forum rule about 'discussions about items for sale' doesn't apply to awards then? Shame: as there are many people here able to warn about out and out wrong items in respect of uniform, equipment, ephemera on eBay etc; and are yet prevented from doing so. GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 8 May , 2015 Share Posted 8 May , 2015 Could I interest anyone in a SWB to a 9th Bn Sherwood Forester man wounded Gallipoli? Offers around £2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONNO Posted 8 May , 2015 Share Posted 8 May , 2015 This very same silver war badge was offered for sale on ebay back in July 2007. BRONNO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 8 May , 2015 Share Posted 8 May , 2015 Bronno, see my earlier post it was bought by me on a second chance offer. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medaler Posted 8 May , 2015 Share Posted 8 May , 2015 Could I interest anyone in a SWB to a 9th Bn Sherwood Forester man wounded Gallipoli? Offers around £2000 If only he had been invalided out with Psoriasis Steve, my offer would have been in your inbox. Wounds? 9th Btn? Gallipoli? - Bahhh 2 a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 An hour to go before the auction starts. Hope someone keeps us informed of the hammer price. Hope we don't see a new thread tomorrow entilted 'Just bought a SWB for €2500' TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 € 1500,- One internet bid only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medaler Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 € 1500,- One internet bid only rising.jpg Ouch! That is surely a record for a SWB? - To slightly mis-quote Esther Rantzen...."unless someone else knows different?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 9 May , 2015 Share Posted 9 May , 2015 record price for a swb ? - probably not, but its an expensive lemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 From past experience I have found there to be errors in Handbook. Some of the surnames from the fatal casualty list are spelt incorrectly.If you are using this as your primary reference source I would IMO show caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 If only he had been invalided out with Psoriasis Steve, my offer would have been in your inbox. Wounds? 9th Btn? Gallipoli? - Bahhh 2 a penny. He did have a German army 4 year service badge as well (WW2) but I do not think it was his ) Actually I had better check the SWB is his as I cannot find him on the list! SWB 343446 - 25050 Musgrove - maybe he was an early collector! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medaler Posted 10 May , 2015 Share Posted 10 May , 2015 He did have a German army 4 year service badge as well (WW2) but I do not think it was his ) Actually I had better check the SWB is his as I cannot find him on the list! SWB 343446 - 25050 Musgrove - maybe he was an early collector! Relax, he's on the Ancestry.list - Edwin Musgrove. Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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