Sturmmann1918 Posted 18 March , 2018 Share Posted 18 March , 2018 Can anyone tell me anything about the horizontal lines on the cuffs? Probably something simple, I've just never noticed them before on any photographs. If I can remember correctly, the reverse says something along the lines of " For memories from June-July 1918. (?), Cambrai. ( Can not read signed name)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 19 March , 2018 Share Posted 19 March , 2018 Dear Sturmmann1918, The cuff embellishments, or broad stripes, seems to coincide with the broad stripe on his collar. At a guess, I would think he was an Offizier-Stellvertreter (which has no real equivalent in Brit terms, apart from 'a sort of officer but not quite'). Thanks for the excellent photograph, which shows his EKII ribbon well... Kindest regards, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 19 March , 2018 Share Posted 19 March , 2018 (edited) Hi, as this is a Feldrock I would dare to disagree. I stick my neck out and opt for Feldrock M1910 Kürassier (Cavalry). Andreas will prove me wrong - if I am wrong. GreyC Edited 19 March , 2018 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 19 March , 2018 Share Posted 19 March , 2018 Dear All, Here is one of my German wife's maternal grandfather (Ltn d R Res. Art. Regt 66), who was a decorated Bty Cdr (Zähringer Löwe, etc.). Kindest regards, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 19 March , 2018 Share Posted 19 March , 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, GreyC said: Hi, as this is a Feldrock I would dare to disagree. I stick my neck out and opt for Feldrock M1910 Kürassier (Cavalary). Andreas will prove me wrong - if I am wrong. GreyC Hello! Because of the trousers I agree wit cavalry. The broad stripes seems to be Cuirassier. Note he doesn´t wear a Koller, but a field tunic. Grey C is right. Edited 19 March , 2018 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmmann1918 Posted 22 March , 2018 Share Posted 22 March , 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 20:22, GreyC said: Hi, as this is a Feldrock I would dare to disagree. I stick my neck out and opt for Feldrock M1910 Kürassier (Cavalry). Andreas will prove me wrong - if I am wrong. GreyC Thank you for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmmann1918 Posted 22 March , 2018 Share Posted 22 March , 2018 Poor fellow on the bottom right...I can not imagine how difficult daily life would have been for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 25 March , 2018 Share Posted 25 March , 2018 (edited) Hi, as an add-on to the photo of the Kürassier earlier in this thread here one of Prince Oskar of Prussia in the uniform of a Kürrasier Regiment. He served with the 2nd from 1910-11. However I am not sure if the uniform pictured is that of this unit. GreyC Edited 25 March , 2018 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 25 March , 2018 Share Posted 25 March , 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 02:27, GreyC said: Hi, I thought I share this German Hauptmann from my collection with you. GreyC That's an interesting one GreyC! Neatly tailored uniform with big barrel cuffs and a 'cavalry' belt buckle with a portepee... But, the crossed swords on the second medal ribbon suggest to me a post WW1 dat - so, any comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 25 March , 2018 Share Posted 25 March , 2018 (edited) On 2/24/2018 at 04:12, Grausig13 said: I know this post is old, but I maybe missed a reply covering my opinion. If my eyes see Bavarian lion buttons, which I am uncertain, then the Vereinfachte Waffenrock with Bavarian style simplified cuff is easily identified. Sort of like the Technical Waffenrock cuff, without the button adornment. Fritz. Thanks Fritz - I didn't know I have been absent from this thread for this long! I think those could very well be Bayern cockades, so maybe you are right. Possibly even Landsturm? I must find the photograph... Julian EDIT: OH, ye gods, I see I had replied... at post 1090... Well, I take back the size aspect of the cockades for being Bayern, but the colour might be so? Like I said, must find the photograph... Edited 25 March , 2018 by trajan See EDIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 25 March , 2018 Share Posted 25 March , 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 16:45, themonsstar said: Any help with this one thank you Roy Other than perhaps Bavarian with those cockades, and two with those unofficial shields as discussed above, nothing from me, I'm afraid, except that they are all Unteroffizier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 25 March , 2018 Share Posted 25 March , 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 16:23, joerookery said: As a side note to Trajan's quote, prior to that time they did not have a bayonet. They had a cavalry sword and a 9 foot long Lance. This caused all sorts of problems as dismounted troops because they had a carbine but no bayonet. This is covered some in the experiences of Arthur Brühe at Halen – for more information see: "The Last Great Cavalry Charge." Cheers on that Joe! But I really had completely missed the fact that cavalry wore their bayonets on the right-hand side... And I must have read those regulations so many times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 25 March , 2018 Share Posted 25 March , 2018 Hi Julian, glad you like the photo. I don´t think it´s postwar. Both cockades still on cap, shoulderboards are imperial, too. Would otherwise have armstripes of the Friedensheer or shoulderstraps of Friedensheer. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grausig13 Posted 1 April , 2018 Share Posted 1 April , 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 13:26, trajan said: Other than perhaps Bavarian with those cockades, and two with those unofficial shields as discussed above, nothing from me, I'm afraid, except that they are all Unteroffizier... Definitely Bavarian... 11 Bayrisches Infanterie Division Verbandsabzeichen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grausig13 Posted 1 April , 2018 Share Posted 1 April , 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 13:10, trajan said: Thanks Fritz - I didn't know I have been absent from this thread for this long! I think those could very well be Bayern cockades, so maybe you are right. Possibly even Landsturm? I must find the photograph... Julian EDIT: OH, ye gods, I see I had replied... at post 1090... Well, I take back the size aspect of the cockades for being Bayern, but the colour might be so? Like I said, must find the photograph... The Bavarian cockade does not always have to be big. Attached are my examples--you can see some manufacturers just painted what they had on hand to sell whatever state they could. Incidentally, while on the subject, I've seen Bavarian marked and annotated photos where the m1916 cockade has appeared Prussian with the outer black ring presumed blended into the cap band--people insisting the Bavarians have Prussian cockades. Just because nobody expects a small disc with a single dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 2 April , 2018 Share Posted 2 April , 2018 Nice photograph, and thanks. Even so, those extra-large ones...? My general rule of thumb is if indistinct, then if lower cockade bigger than upper one, more than even chnce it will be Bavarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 (edited) Here is a straightforward one that came from a German dealer - I am assuming that 'Pate' means 'godfather'? So, a Herr Paul Wicklein, a Freiwilliger aged 18 in an artillery helmet - and at that, to judge from the sabre grips and form, a Prussian artillery unit. EDIT: so, he still has his sword - that means before mid-late 1915 doesn't it? I am being crowded out of my study 'area' by the boys doing homework so can't readily check! Edited 3 April , 2018 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 ...quite right, also the belt and the leather strap attached to the sabre. The cuffs designate him as part of the fieldartillery. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 Hello! The belt says, he´s from a mounted fieldartillery unit. Do I see an 11 on the helmet cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 (edited) Now, the real reason I bought that one above, post 1142(!) was because I wanted this one, as the same chap is shown here with an Ersatz model - an EB 09. But, I am confused by the award he has... An eight pointed design with a raised central design. Also, he is wearing a modified version of a cavalry belt - but didn't they go out of use in the late war period? Edited 3 April , 2018 by trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 1 minute ago, The Prussian said: Hello! The belt says, he´s from a mounted fieldartillery unit. Do I see an 11 on the helmet cover? No, unfortunately - just creases, no number... Egbert is right - I need a new scanner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 Hmmm, I think it´s a bloody 11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 1 minute ago, The Prussian said: Hmmm, I think it´s a bloody 11... OK, went back to it with the 6x glass - and ye gods, maşallah, you are right - that is a '1' there and so it could well be / probably is '11' it is! Vielen dank! That would make it 1. Kurhessisches Feld-Artillerie-Regiment Nr. 11? Were they within the Prussian grouping for weaponry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 (edited) Wait one moment, please. The crazy Prussian has got a crazy idea..... What IF it´s not a balled, but a spiked helmet? Drivers and blacksmiths of Searchlight-formations had cavalry equipment! (Kraus, vol. II, page 745) They wore the number of the Pionier-Bataillon, which did set-up that unit. So I throw it in the crowd: Driver of a searchlight-formation of Pionier-Bataillon 11 And?????? He was missed in 1915: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/3024487 and declared to death by court in 1919: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/8809300 Poor, young boy, but unfortunately I think he is it... Edited 3 April , 2018 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 3 April , 2018 Share Posted 3 April , 2018 Forget it...He was 18 years old... The Casualty lists says, that man was born in 1885. I saw it too late... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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