neverforget Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 40 minutes ago, durham dave said: 7766 Julius Strecher The sinister Julius Streicher it is. Well spotted. Seen above after getting his just deserts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 3 minutes ago, neverforget said: The sinister Julius Streicher it is. Well spotted. Seen above after getting his just deserts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher As this is GWF- Streicher was an elementary school teacher. Enlisting in 1914, he won Iron Cross 2nd Class as a message runner in the West. Then (Unusual as non-aristocrat) as being selected for officer training, then served in the East-Romania and Italy with a Mountain Machine Gun Detachment. Won Iron Cross 1st Class (in 1918?) while back in the West. The service careers of Germany's generals and politicians of WW2 during the Great War seems to be little considered. As with Streicher-what went wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 3 minutes ago, voltaire60 said: As this is GWF- Streicher was an elementary school teacher. Enlisting in 1914, he won Iron Cross 2nd Class as a message runner in the West. Then (Unusual as non-aristocrat) as being selected for officer training, then served in the East-Romania and Italy with a Mountain Machine Gun Detachment. Won Iron Cross 1st Class (in 1918?) while back in the West. The service careers of Germany's generals and politicians of WW2 during the Great War seems to be little considered. As with Streicher-what went wrong? Perhaps he read (and acted on) Mein Kampf. I inserted the brackets, because I too have read it on the basis of "Know your ememy." What went wrong with him was basically nazism I suppose. Some hints here: http://www.famous-trials.com/nuremberg/1927-streicher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 (edited) EDITED: Mistaken candidate replaced with this chap. First to....??? Edited 19 December , 2017 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 First VC to the newly formed RAF - Ferdinand West, former RAMC, then a commissioned officer in the Royal Munster Fus., he transferred to the RFC, already a “seasoned” pilot, with his earlier exploits he won this award during a reconnaissance sortie, on 10th August 1918, when he was “jumped” by several fighter aircraft, with his leg almost severed off by machine gun fire, he made it back to base and made sure he reported what he had seen. Survived the war and led a distinguished RAF career until late 1945, he died in 1988. http://www.8squadron.co.uk/history_Capt_West_VC.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 14 minutes ago, Knotty said: First VC to the newly formed RAF - Ferdinand West, former RAMC, then a commissioned officer in the Royal Munster Fus., he transferred to the RFC, already a “seasoned” pilot, with his earlier exploits he won this award during a reconnaissance sortie, on 10th August 1918, when he was “jumped” by several fighter aircraft, with his leg almost severed off by machine gun fire, he made it back to base and made sure he reported what he had seen. Survived the war and led a distinguished RAF career until late 1945, he died in 1988. http://www.8squadron.co.uk/history_Capt_West_VC.php Freddie West is correct. First R.A.F. V.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 No prizes for guessing what is occuring here, but why is this corporal out on his own??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teabreak Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 This is Spencer Bent VC from 1/East Lancs who took command of a platoon under fire in Nov 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teabreak Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 PS Is he "out on his own" because he was also awarded the Russian Cross of St George? I'm unsure about the circumstances of that award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, teabreak said: PS Is he "out on his own" because he was also awarded the Russian Cross of St George? I'm unsure about the circumstances of that award. You have him correctly identified, but the other criteria I had in mind was that he was recommended for the V.C. more times than anyone; five times in all. As regards him being awarded the Russian Cross of St. George, I'm not sure if he is unique in that respect. http://www.lancashireinfantrymuseum.org.uk/drummer-later-regimental-sergeant-major-spencer-john-bent-vc-mm/ Edited 20 December , 2017 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 Not to be confused with Lt. Philip Bent, he of the disputed VC ownership and sale, which reminds me to see if there has been any further developments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 38 minutes ago, Knotty said: Not to be confused with Lt. Philip Bent, he of the disputed VC ownership and sale, which reminds me to see if there has been any further developments I noticed that there were two Bent V.Cs. Let's hope that Philip's is treated with the respect that it deserves. So, what's the story here??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 (edited) Another photograph of the King. But who is he with ? ? ? He had a connection with our recent subjects: Guderian, de Gaulle ... EDIT: sorry nf - we posted at the same time! Edited 20 December , 2017 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 6 minutes ago, neverforget said: I noticed that there were two Bent V.Cs. Let's hope that Philip's is treated with the respect that it deserves. So, what's the story here??? Is he Chief Joe Crow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 No worries Uncle. Not a bad thing to have two on the go at the same time👍 Just now, Uncle George said: Is he Chief Joe Crow? Not Joe Crow, and just to be clear, there are two men here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 NF - Is the top gentleman wearing Canadian uniform, making him a Canadian Indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 21 minutes ago, neverforget said: No worries Uncle. Not a bad thing to have two on the go at the same time👍 Not Joe Crow, and just to be clear, there are two men here. I've just checked in on WiT? while drinking my first cup of coffee and the only person I've recognised so far is that Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha chap with the full set (his first name will come to me). Now I find that the last one is not one but two people. I need another cup of coffee rapidly..... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 10 minutes ago, Knotty said: NF - Is the top gentleman wearing Canadian uniform, making him a Canadian Indian Well spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 10 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: I've just checked in on WiT? while drinking my first cup of coffee and the only person I've recognised so far is that Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha chap with the full set (his first name will come to me). Now I find that the last one is not one but two people. I need another cup of coffee rapidly..... Pete. Be careful, the chap you recognise might be the czar. (Only joking😊) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 1 hour ago, neverforget said: Not Joe Crow ... No, it wouldn't be! Upon checking I see that Joe Crow wasn't born until 1913 - I was way off there. Is one of your chaps Francis Pegahmagabow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 16 minutes ago, Uncle George said: No, it wouldn't be! Upon checking I see that Joe Crow wasn't born until 1913 - I was way off there. Is one of your chaps Francis Pegahmagabow? Not him either, though he would be a very likely suspect. One of them kept a diary: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 At the docs now, gave me a chance to think a bit so can recommence the challenge. NF is yours something to do with their tribe name, or something connected to horses or the Canadian cavalry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 3 minutes ago, Knotty said: At the docs now, gave me a chance to think a bit so can recommence the challenge. NF is yours something to do with their tribe name, or something connected to horses or the Canadian cavalry? One particular horse holds some relevance, but not cavalry. Really it's just a tale of two injuns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 Uncle George, your picture looks a bit strange. It's almost as if the two men ate stood in front of a stage backdrop. I wosh I could decipher the subjects shoulder badge. I'm sure it would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 20 December , 2017 Share Posted 20 December , 2017 (edited) NF looks like Tank Corps to me,when enlarged Edited 20 December , 2017 by Knotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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