TonyE Posted 1 June , 2013 Share Posted 1 June , 2013 TonyE- Here is the serial number. The receiver is marked ERA and I don't know about an asterisk. But the number is 169543. Let me know what it turns up. Thanks again Your rifle was accepted by British inspectors at the factoty during week ending 13 January 1917. Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 1 June , 2013 Share Posted 1 June , 2013 I wish all of my gear and weapons could talk, imagine the stories they could tell. Know what you mean - I sometimes wonder what my WW1 GS telescope saw through its lenses. But then, it's in such condition as to make you doubt it ever got within sight of any real action. Regards, MikB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitter2k1 Posted 1 June , 2013 Author Share Posted 1 June , 2013 Your rifle was accepted by British inspectors at the factoty during week ending 13 January 1917. Regards TonyE Thank you very much for that bit of info. It is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippingsteel Posted 2 June , 2013 Share Posted 2 June , 2013 Both of the triangle markings are the same symbol, with that strange angular style letter R, however one has been stamped in the inverted position. Given that the Iraqi's used the triangle shape and also appear to have been using the P14, I wonder if the R could stand for the Republican Guard.? Cheers, S>S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAubyns Posted 5 July , 2013 Share Posted 5 July , 2013 I have also just put a deposit on a Winchester P14 fitted with Parker Hale sights. Hopefully It won't be too long before I can pick it up, as I have just finished the 5th month of my 6 month probation. Hopefully the FAC process won't be all that tedious. I regularly shoot a No 4 Lee Enfield and a P14 and I definitely prefer the P14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 6 July , 2013 Share Posted 6 July , 2013 Good luck with the FAC application, don't let them take too long! Your P.'14 will be missing at least the rear volley sight arm if it has a P-H rear sight and probably the front one and the military rear sight as well. Geoff or Jim at EFD can probably help with the parts but they will not be cheap. Give me the serial and i wil date it for you. Cheers TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAubyns Posted 7 July , 2013 Share Posted 7 July , 2013 Hi Tony thanks for the offer, I will call and get the serial next week regards Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAubyns Posted 8 July , 2013 Share Posted 8 July , 2013 Give me the serial and i wil date it for you. Cheers TonyE Hi Tony the serial number is W83619 regards Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 9 July , 2013 Share Posted 9 July , 2013 Your P.'14 was accepted by British inspectors at the Winchester factory in week ending 30 December 1916. It may have been made slightly earlier depending if there was a backlog on inspection. Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAubyns Posted 9 July , 2013 Share Posted 9 July , 2013 Thanks Tony I have also been told that it underwent the "weedon repair standard" in the 1930's. I have seen this mentioned on http://en.wikipedia....rn_1914_Enfield but what it means I have no idea regards Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitter2k1 Posted 28 July , 2013 Author Share Posted 28 July , 2013 Sorry to start a post and leave never to be seen again. 4th Gordon's, do you have a recommendation for ammo that would be safe to shoot out of my rifle. I know that it can be hard to come by, but I don't want to grab the first thing I come across and have it blow up in my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 29 July , 2013 Share Posted 29 July , 2013 St.Aubyns - The Weedon Repair was a pre WW2 program to refurbish the stock of some 650,000 Pattern 14 rifles that had been in store since WWI. It comprised a general clean and test, removal of the long range volley sights and if necessary any new parts. Some rifles required new stocks and these were marked on the butt as "Mark II". If you turn your rifle over, if it went through WRS there will be a stamp in the wood just behind the trigger guard consisting of a star with a letter beneath. That will tell you which organisation did the work (It was not all done at Weedon). Mitter2k1 - The Pattern '14 is an extremely strong action and will handle any .303 on sale today. If you want to buy new ammo then Privi Partizan or S & B are fine, although the bullets are boat tailed.I can't speak for the Winchester or Remington products as we don'r really see them in the UK, but I understand they are fairly mild loads. (4th Gordons is on vacation in Europe at present) Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitter2k1 Posted 30 July , 2013 Author Share Posted 30 July , 2013 Mitter2k1 - The Pattern '14 is an extremely strong action and will handle any .303 on sale today. If you want to buy new ammo then Privi Partizan or S & B are fine, although the bullets are boat tailed.I can't speak for the Winchester or Remington products as we don'r really see them in the UK, but I understand they are fairly mild loads. (4th Gordons is on vacation in Europe at present) Regards TonyE Thanks TonyE. Now that I think about it, I used to shoot the Sellier & Bellot out of my No. 1 Mk. III and my No. 4 Mk. I. I just wanted to be sure that I wasn't behind the trigger of a pipe bomb. I'll give the rifle another once over to make sure there are not any looming threats. Thanks again, Mike M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAubyns Posted 31 July , 2013 Share Posted 31 July , 2013 St.Aubyns - The Weedon Repair was a pre WW2 program to refurbish the stock of some 650,000 Pattern 14 rifles that had been in store since WWI. It comprised a general clean and test, removal of the long range volley sights and if necessary any new parts. Some rifles required new stocks and these were marked on the butt as "Mark II". If you turn your rifle over, if it went through WRS there will be a stamp in the wood just behind the trigger guard consisting of a star with a letter beneath. That will tell you which organisation did the work (It was not all done at Weedon). Regards TonyE Thanks for the info re the WRS. Armed with this info I went into the gun shop this morning to pick up a rifle cabinet and had a quick look at my (well, shortly it will be) P14 on the rack. There are no marks that I could see behind the trigger guard, so maybe it is as produced. When I pick it up I will post some photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 31 July , 2013 Share Posted 31 July , 2013 It appears from the 7 or 8 examples I have looked at that Pattern '14s in Indian service were also converted to the "WRS format" (that is to say volley sights removed in the same fashion) and these do not have any indication I could see by way of the stamps Tony mentions. Quite a lot of ex Indian P14s have surfaced in recent years, but many of them have been DP'd and have a 1/4 inch hole through the chamber! Mike -- what Tony said about ammunition (assuming the rifle is in good condition) Just an FYI, one of my P14s does not like to feed commercial soft-nosed rounds (the tip catches and does not guide into the chamber) but will feed spitzer bullets flawlessly. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 1 August , 2013 Share Posted 1 August , 2013 The P-14 is a lovely rifle. Last year I shot one rechamberd for 7.62 Nato and it was a cracker. Easy to shoot and very accurate. Enjoy!! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAubyns Posted 27 September , 2013 Share Posted 27 September , 2013 At last my FAC has arrived and so has the P14 Its obviously seen some alterations in its life but the barrel is in excellent condition. Its been sporterised by Parker Hale - I think and has it been through the Weedon process and the marks removed later? However, its going to the range tomorrow and we will see how it shoots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8HANTS Posted 27 September , 2013 Share Posted 27 September , 2013 If its anything like my P14, or my .22" Bonehill converted Martini Henry, and my Long Lee, they can all shoot better than I can. Enjoy your day on the range G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 27 September , 2013 Share Posted 27 September , 2013 If its anything like my P14, or my .22" Bonehill converted Martini Henry, and my Long Lee, they can all shoot better than I can. Enjoy your day on the range G Ha! what he said! mine too. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppertales Posted 7 October , 2013 Share Posted 7 October , 2013 Here is a pic of my P14s, a Remington and an Eddystone. I don't remember what the No1Mk3 is. I bought them with broken stock and parts missing and restored them. The bores on these rifle are perfect. Great shooters....chris3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gew98 Posted 7 October , 2013 Share Posted 7 October , 2013 I love my Patt'14. It's a 12k serial range ERA...flat untouched excepting the Post WW1 EY marking added to stock and receiver - no weedon overhaul. And man can it shoot !. I'd post pics of it but apparently the format here has changed since I was here last and it appears not so pic posting friendly anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gew98 Posted 7 October , 2013 Share Posted 7 October , 2013 Some more since I figured out the new process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gew98 Posted 7 October , 2013 Share Posted 7 October , 2013 some some. Note a couple SMLE pics in here too. some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gew98 Posted 7 October , 2013 Share Posted 7 October , 2013 Last I have on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MAAD58 Posted 4 September , 2014 Share Posted 4 September , 2014 I see a response to this from TonyE asking for the serial number and indicating he could provide the date this was accepted into service. Tony, I wonder if you could also help me out? I have a P14 with Serial Number ERA 93807 which as far as I can work out is from around August 1916. Can you confirm that or provide better information. The rifle is in top condition - I will post some photos as soon as I work out how to do it. All serial numbers on the rifle match and many of the parts have an "E" stamped on them which I believe indicates that they were made at the Eddystone manufacturing site, as does the serial number., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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