stiletto_33853 Posted 28 October , 2007 Author Share Posted 28 October , 2007 Hi Peter, His is there but his entry is somewhat sparse and it states that he died on 6/11/18. LOCKYER, Stanley Watkins C Company, Number 14207, joined 21/10/18 Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butt Posted 31 October , 2007 Share Posted 31 October , 2007 John, WADE, Oliver John Served in 3 Company, Number 3142, joined 29/3/15; Commissioned R.W. Kent Regiment 21/6/15, R.F.C.; Served Egypt and France.; 2nd Lieut. Killed in Action 22/10/16 Andy Many thanks Andy. You've turned up trumps again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougscarratt@tiscali.co.uk Posted 31 October , 2007 Share Posted 31 October , 2007 Hi Peter Just looked at the reprint, all there is in this one. Lockyer, Stanley Watkins C/14207, 21/10/18: Died 6/11/18. Slightly different dates than yours. Perhaps Andy has more info, sorry, Cheers Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 23 February , 2008 Share Posted 23 February , 2008 Just a belated thanks for those who replied. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfaulder Posted 23 February , 2008 Share Posted 23 February , 2008 Thanks very much, Andy - that was very quick! I see his peacetime occupation isn't mentioned - do you happen to know what the requirements were for joining the Inns of Court OTC? The Dacorum Heritage Trust site is very vague - it just says "The Inns of Court OTC was originally part of the London Territorial Force and consisted mainly of men connected with the law courts." -- Mary Just seen this question (and a similar earlier one). My GF went through the IoC OTC even though he had no links with the legal profession. The assistant librarian at Lincoln's Inn, Frances Bellis, told me (email, June 2007): At the time of the first World War membership of the corps was not restricted to barristers. In order to get more recruits in 1895 they had widened their criteria for entry to four categories i. members of an Inn of Court; ii. members of the Faculty of Advocates, Edinburgh (Scottish barristers); iii. past or present members of the universities or public schools and iv. gentlemen who in the opinion of the commanding officer may be considered specially elegible. Hope this helps David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelab Posted 23 March , 2008 Share Posted 23 March , 2008 Thanks for the info on the Inns of Court OTC criteria, David! I was wondering why my grandfather and his brother joined up there when neither had any connection with the legal profession. Andy, if you still have the book open, do you have anything on: WILLIAM BROWNE BAGSHAW and HORACE STANLEY BAGSHAW who joined up together in August 1914 I think. Many thanks in advance Angela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-munden Posted 23 March , 2008 Share Posted 23 March , 2008 Hi there Don't know if I'm too late for this beanfeast, but my gg-uncle was in the IoC OTC - John Arnold Munden. I think he attested cApr1915 and went to Berkhampstead as a Private (number 3200) for his Officer training. He was killed 27Aug1916 at Delville Wood. Is there any info in the OTC book about him, please - like when he joined the Somerset Light Infantry, when he was attached from 3/SLI to 6/SLI, and when he went to France? Many thanks James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfaulder Posted 23 March , 2008 Share Posted 23 March , 2008 >><<my gg-uncle was in the IoC OTC - John Arnold Munden. I think he attested cApr1915 and went to Berkhampstead as a Private (number 3200) for his Officer training. He was killed 27Aug1916 at Delville Wood.>><< James Entry reads (p266 col 1 item 2) + Munden John Arnold 2/3200, 8/4/15: Som L.I. 10/7/15; F : 2/Lieut ; w Killed in action 27/8/16 + indicates died F indicates he served in France/Flander w indicates wounded Does not give you much new information I am afraid - other than his commission date 10/7/15 (Book is available through Naval & Military Press - and I think The Long Long Trail bookshop) David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 23 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 23 March , 2008 Angela, Re the Bagshaws BAGSHAW, Horace Stanley, number 2220, served in K and A Companies, joined 30/11/14. Commissioned into the Manchester Regiment on 3/3/15, attained the rank of Captain, awarded the Military Cross and was Mentioned in Despatches. Home address: Holme Lea, Alexandra Road, Southport. BAGSHAW, William Browne, number 2218, served in K and A Companies, joined 30/11/14. Commissioned into the Manchester Regiment on 3/3/15, wounded once, attained the rank of Brigade Major, awarded the Military Cross and Bar, French Croix de Guerre with gold star and was mentioned in Despatches. Home address: Holme Lea, Alexandra Road, Southport. Hope that this helps you a little. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-munden Posted 23 March , 2008 Share Posted 23 March , 2008 Hi David You're right - not much more new info. But the commission date would represent three months training at Berkhampstead, which is consistent from the start date (which I knew); and it confirms that he was wounded - consistent with family story. Thanks for looking. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelab Posted 23 March , 2008 Share Posted 23 March , 2008 Gosh, Andy! Thanks a million! Some of that confirms what I already had laboriously worked out, but it's great to see it corroborated in black and white. I am most grateful. Angela EDIT: Here are the Bagshaws with their mum on investiture day in 1920. William on left, Horace at back, standing. Their younger brother is on right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 23 March , 2008 Author Share Posted 23 March , 2008 Angela, Thanks for showing this great family picture. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HelperDIL Posted 27 February , 2017 Share Posted 27 February , 2017 Any information on Kenneth Roy Scarr? Found London Gazette: "Pte. Kenneth Roy Scarr, from Inns of Court OTC, to be 2nd Lt. (on prob.) 10th June 1916." Looking for any additional information. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 27 February , 2017 Share Posted 27 February , 2017 (edited) Dear angelab, The Bagshaws did well, indeed. Who was the younger brother (sitting at right)? It looks as if he, too, had the MC... Kindest regards, Kim. Edited 27 February , 2017 by Kimberley John Lindsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 27 February , 2017 Share Posted 27 February , 2017 3 hours ago, HelperDIL said: Any information on Kenneth Roy Scarr? Found London Gazette: "Pte. Kenneth Roy Scarr, from Inns of Court OTC, to be 2nd Lt. (on prob.) 10th June 1916." Looking for any additional information. Thank you in advance. SCARR, Kenneth Roy Joined the Corps: 26 Aug 1915 Service No: 5839 Served in 6, then 3 Company Commissioned: East Kent Regt 09 Jun 1916 Highest rank attained: Captain wounded Address: Junior House, Warwick School, Warwick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 11 April , 2017 Share Posted 11 April , 2017 Any information on: Douglas Alexander Bannatyne Walter Thomas Patrick Spens both from the Inns of Court Officers Training Corps, dated 5th March 1915 Thank you, Neill https://neillgilhooley.com/9th-royal-scots/index/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 11 April , 2017 Share Posted 11 April , 2017 11 hours ago, Neill Gilhooley said: Any information on: Douglas Alexander Bannatyne Walter Thomas Patrick Spens both from the Inns of Court Officers Training Corps, dated 5th March 1915 Thank you, Neill https://neillgilhooley.com/9th-royal-scots/index/ SPENS, Walter Thomas Patrick Joined corps 07 Jan 1915 Served in K Company Service Number 2621 Commissioned Royal Scots 05 Mar 1915 Served in France & Flanders; reached Lieutenant; wounded twice. Died 18 Feb 1917 BANNATYNE, Douglas Alexander Joined corps 07 Jan 1915 Served in K Company Service Number 2620 Commissioned Royal Scots 05 Mar 1915 No theatre mentioned; reached Lieutenant. Killed in Action 05 Nov 1915 Their history was so similar I went back and double checked I'd not entered one man's data twice. They clearly must have been friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 12 April , 2017 Share Posted 12 April , 2017 (edited) Thank you very much, most kind. I knew they were commissioned on the same day, but I agree they must have been friends joining the OTC together. Spens was wounded twice (incl High Wood) but died on active service of pneumonia at a CCS. Bannatyne was killed 1st Aug 18, so possible a typo in the record, in the attack south of Soissons. Thanks again. Edited 12 April , 2017 by Neill Gilhooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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