museumtom Posted 9 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2004 This bayo0net was made by Alexander Coppel GmbH Solingen. It has the arrows pointing to each other which means that it was sold out of service or obsolete. It was inspected by a Birmingham inspector and I would reckon that this bayonet dates between 1865 and 1890 for the Enfield (not the Lee Enfield.the pre snider percussion enfield), snider or martini henry. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 9 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 9 November , 2004 Forgot to add WD War department, Crown over a number over the letter b means Birmingham and the number is the inspectors number. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 10 November , 2004 Share Posted 10 November , 2004 Tom, Correct regarding the bayonet and thank you for the further information regarding the markings. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 10 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2004 You are welcome Stuart. OK then..who's next? Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 10 November , 2004 Share Posted 10 November , 2004 OK then..who's next? This item has been discussed on this thread in relation to buttplate markings. Any information on the following. I assume proof marks and inspection marks but any further pse? Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 10 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2004 V under a crown is the london inspection/view mark, The b under the crown is used by the Birmingham inspectors, and the W under the crown was used by Winchester, but the others are a total mystery to me. Perhaps they were for inspection durning manufacture markings?. The idea of having proof markings on a butt plate beats me. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 10 November , 2004 Share Posted 10 November , 2004 Tom, Appreciated - thank you. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 10 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2004 Correction. W under crown is Wilkinson not winchester. Sorry. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 10 November , 2004 Share Posted 10 November , 2004 Tom, New one on me - this is a 37mm shell casing with oodles of stuff on the base: AMLOT 1075-11 37mm GUN MODEL OF 1916 LOT1075-24 P.E.M.Co W in a circle I presume it is American, but I cannot trace a P.E.M.Co... Any ideas, Tom ? Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 11 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 11 November , 2004 This is the American model 1916 37mm gun, and they copied the gun from the French design. The w in circle is winchester. I have no listing for P.E.M.Co but as far as I can tell the casing should be 93mm long. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 11 November , 2004 Share Posted 11 November , 2004 Cheers Tom. Funny to think of the Yanks copying French artillery, but in 1916 I guess they were building up to entry into the fracas and were a little 'behind the game'... Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 21 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 21 November , 2004 OK then there young fellow me lads!!! Fall in a dress off to the right.........................who's next? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 I do not believe this to be British ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2004 The markings on this socket bayonet appear to be Sudanese. Socket bayonets of this type became obsolete around 1860-ish. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Tom, Once again, thank you. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Tom, On this one I think that there should be something else to the right of the upper mark but it has been worn away. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2004 This really does not tell me much,8 under a crown was used by the Canadian 'Ross' but this bayonet looks too early for that. If you measure the length of the blade, the length of the socket, the Diameter of the socket, and the slot to muzzle measurment we may nail it down. The letter G on its own has been used on the hanoverian catch and the 1838 British socket bayonet, also used by Greece/France Regards. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Most important ................tell me the muzzle ring diameter(inside) Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brown Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 Tom , It is a cutlass - long edged weapon, not a bayonet. Apologies if I inferred that it was a bayonet. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birkettm Posted 22 November , 2004 Share Posted 22 November , 2004 RE, -> in a sideways 'U' (best description i can do) 1VE 69E 13E' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 22 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2004 South African equipment and unit marking are out of my league. However; arrow in u South Africa. U= Union of South Africa Defence Force. 1910-1948. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drbuster Posted 25 November , 2004 Share Posted 25 November , 2004 Tom, How about.....20.R.M.G.55. The only clue is..it's German> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 25 November , 2004 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2004 I dont have the foggiest idea..................sorry Dr. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drbuster Posted 25 November , 2004 Share Posted 25 November , 2004 Tom, It signifies...20th Infantry Regiment, Machine Gun Company, 55th weapon. It is a unit marking from the front grip strap of a "First Isue" 1908 German Luger. Unit marking interpretation is a science in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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