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Hurricane1

Hi Folks,

Sorry to but in on this thread, but I'm a little confused as to whether Victory II was or was not at Crystal Palace/Sydenham area?

My interest is just in a little background for the following individual...

Petty Officer Stoker (Pensioner) Fred George Henry Hussey RN

HMS Victory II, formerly HMS Shakespeare

Died 10/10/1918 aged 44

Husband of Ethel Lucy Hussey. 51 Dartmouth Road, Copnor, Portsmouth

Buried at Haslar Royal Naval Cemetery

Would I be right in assuming that this seaman was administratively on the books of Victory II, not necessarily physically in South London. Does the pensioner bit mean that he had already been discharged from service witha pension?

Hope someone can help.

Cheers

Brazen

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Signals

Yep your right, just say you chap was a Portsmouth Rating serving on a surface ship. If he were to stanb by a ship being built or just nearing completion, he would go on the books of Victory II, or even it he was to travel through Europe to serve on a ship overseas, he would go on the books of Victory II, so from what i can work out it can cover a variety of different reasosn.

If your Stoker was a Pembroke rating, he would have Pembroke II to cover these things.

If he was Stoker and a Devenport Rating, he would have Vivid II on his papers.

Hope this helps.

The same goes for submariners, many course, training, travel, standing by a completing submarine, you would go on the books of Dolphin, so they would not physically be at Fort Blockhouse.

DB

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Hurricane1

Hi Darren,

Thanks for that, I'll check his record when I get the chance.

Cheers

Brazen

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Signals

Just a correection, a Chatham rating would have Pembrke II.

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g0bby-1

Darren,

sorry I haven't sent Georges papers to you yet, but under the 10 post rule, I cannot PM you...

Working on that today !!

Dale.

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Signals

Hi Gobby,

just tried to send you a PM with my email, but it rejected me as you have it disabled. Go to the thread HMS E18 in the Baltic, my email is on there.

Cheers DB

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machines1985

Hi Guys,

 

Im looking for a little bit of help here please.  I am doing my family tree and i have found my great grandfathers service record from ww1.  He was a portsmouth based stoker.  On his service record it states Victory II and then i think it says Attentive II? followed by writing that i cant make out.  I would really like to know where he served.  If anyone can offer any help that would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Tom

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seaJane

Looks like HMS Mermaid, 1898-1919. This from her Google entry: "In July 1914 she was in active commission in the 6th Destroyer Flotilla tendered to HMS Attentive based at Dover."

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Suzi

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help, I’m researching my great grandfather on behalf of my grandad, I can see from service records that he was a Stoker, and identified Victory 2, Colleen and Hecla 2 but I’m not sure about the rest and to be honest very new to this and a bit clueless as to what his role would entail, if it’s a static position docked etc

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seaJane

HMS CROCUS seems to have been another of his ships. If I remember correctly COLLEEN II - (CROCUS) means that CROCUS was administered from, or a tender to, COLLEEN II; CROCUS seems to have been attached to Gibraltar and to HECLA II at other periods.

 

It may, of course, be that I fail to remember, but I'm sure someone will be along soon with a correction.

 

seaJane

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seaJane

I did check Wikipedia, which simply states that CROCUS was an ARABIS-class minesweeping sloop* launched in 1915 and sold in 1930.

 

For the ARABIS class (aka Cabbage Class or the Herbaceous Border) see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabis-class_sloop 

 

More about CROCUS http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/H.M.S._Crocus_(1915)

https://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-18-HMS_Crocus.htm (voyages 1921-23) 

 

*(Not to be confused with the WW2 Herbaceous Border Flower Class corvette of the same name)

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Tavern Druid
On 12/12/2008 at 11:34, Signals said:

Hi Charles,

certainly something changed when i put these men's papers togeteher. All Stokers and ERA's have Victory II on their papers rof and on up to WW1, and then directly after it, but none during.

I'll look at another crew list shortly, and just a quick browse i can see she had one ERA on the books of Victory II in 1915.

DB.

Hi DB

 

Just picked up this old thread.

I am researching CHARLES ROBERT CORNELIUS TURNER K10536, Joined 22 Feb 1911, Stoker then Leading Stoker, Killed on HMS Derwent 2 May 1917.

His record says he was at Victory II 1 May 1915.

Doesn't give and end date but the next posting, which could be Victory or Derwent as there is a double entry of Ditto, is 1 Sept 1916.

There are two ships that I cannot read both have been squeeze in between two rows on the page.

 

Hope this helps with you project.

 

Best Wishes

 

David

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