Do you have a ww1 spoon?

[Coldstreamer]

9 hours ago, GobsH said:

Thanks for this info. Amazing! 
 

As a layman, it seems odd two men serving at the same time had the same number. 
 

I wonder if there is any other way to narrow this down. Since the spoon made it back to the UK, I presume the owner survived the war.
 

I presume both men, Quinn and Fenwick, survived the war? 

 

re the number, until just after ww1 all regiments had their own number system - if you had spoon number 1 there would be lots and lots of possibles so you are lucky you had a high number as, for example, the Guards never got that high

[PhilB]

Yes, I suppose, in theory, there were lots of soldiers with the number 1. I’ve only come across one - the RSM of the Welsh Guards became 1 when the regiment was formed. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the others were also RSMs!

[Coldstreamer]

prob only when regiment was created and number first used, after that it was pot luck when you joined what number you got

[BillyH]

9 hours ago, GobsH said:

Can’t be sure, but probability suggests this more likely to be Arthur Quinn’s spoon and not Thomas Fenwick’s. 

@BillyH - I don’t suppose there’s a date associated with the thumb injury? 

 

He has service papers which might say, but I haven't studied them. The left thumb information came from his pension ledger card at the end of the war. I was assuming that the wear on his spoon was from gardening - potting up in the greenhouse?

Incidentally, I tried to find both men on the 1939 Register in the hope that one of them moved to the south west. No luck there either, they may have died before 1939?

 

BillyH.

Edited 12 May , 2020 by BillyH
1939 Register info added

[GobsH]

BillyH - thanks for the help. 
 

PS - a lot of these spoons show this wear (that I’ve seen online) - so presume it was done through eating?? 

[Tomo.T]

I think spoons were commonly sharpened one side, to act as a knife. A universal feeding tool.

[JDent]

Looking help identifying this spoon. I thought it belonged to an English ancestor but it might have been a Scottish one. 

[IPT]

Could be 221 George Davies, Middlesex Regiment?

He has service papers, as 51177 Essex Regiment.  They may reveal if he was 4th Bn.

[Gunner 87]

1 hour ago, IPT said:

Could be 221 George Davies, Middlesex Regiment?

He has service papers, as 51177 Essex Regiment.  They may reveal if he was 4th Bn.

Fold3 hold a Medal Index Card for a Private Alfred Hunt, PW/221, Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex) Regiment

[JDent]

3 hours ago, IPT said:

Could be 221 George Davies, Middlesex Regiment?

He has service papers, as 51177 Essex Regiment.  They may reveal if he was 4th Bn.

Thank you for your quick reply.  Davies is not a surname in our family, so I think my search continues.

1 hour ago, Gunner 87 said:

Fold3 hold a Medal Index Card for a Private Alfred Hunt, PW/221, Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex) Regiment

Thank you for your quick reply.  Hunt is not a surname in our family, so I think my search continues.

[Gunner 87]

10 hours ago, JDent said:

Thank you for your quick reply.  Davies is not a surname in our family, so I think my search continues.

Thank you for your quick reply.  Hunt is not a surname in our family, so I think my search continues.

Hello. Welcome to the forum. If you are able to let us know possible surnames from your family that would certainly help narrow the search. I did notice there were a number of six digit service numbers in the Middlesex ending in 221 and this could be the last three, which is a common practice to this day albeit generally the last four..

[Gunner 87]

11 hours ago, JDent said:

Thank you for your quick reply.  Davies is not a surname in our family, so I think my search continues.

Thank you for your quick reply.  Hunt is not a surname in our family, so I think my search continues.

Here is my Great Grandfather's spoon. You will see it bears RGA for Royal Garrison Artillery and his service number so it is highly likely that yours belonged to a 4th Battalion, Middlesex Regiment. Also note the shape where it has be altered so to act as a knife like yours.

 

Edited 17 February , 2022 by Gunner 87

[JDent]

2 hours ago, Gunner 87 said:

Hello. Welcome to the forum. If you are able to let us know possible surnames from your family that would certainly help narrow the search. I did notice there were a number of six digit service numbers in the Middlesex ending in 221 and this could be the last three, which is a common practice to this day albeit generally the last four..

I have noticed that most photos show four or more digits, so the fact that there are only three has puzzled me.

British family names:  Litchfield, Bull, Quintrell, Parker, Sawyer, Humphries

My brother wondered if the engraving had reference to  221st Mixed Brigade which was a Scottish Home Service under the British Army.

Scottish family names:  Murray, Bishop, Buchanan, Anderson

[Gunner 87]

1 hour ago, JDent said:

I have noticed that most photos show four or more digits, so the fact that there are only three has puzzled me.

British family names:  Litchfield, Bull, Quintrell, Parker, Sawyer, Humphries

My brother wondered if the engraving had reference to  221st Mixed Brigade which was a Scottish Home Service under the British Army.

Scottish family names:  Murray, Bishop, Buchanan, Anderson

 

have sent you a pm rather than clogging up the thread.

[battle of loos]

good morning,

here is my collection of cutlery which for a more part come from the field.

overview:

I will detail them to you later.

regards

michel

 

 

 

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n°1

knife - Thomas WILSON - Sheffield - 1916

michel

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n°2

knife - Stainless Produx - Sheffield

michel

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n°3 :

spoon - The Potosi Silver Co - Birmingham

michel

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n°4  :

fork  - Adams Bros Cutler - Folkestone

michel

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n°5 :

fork  - ???

michel

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n°6 :

spoon - ??? - 143758

find to Loos battlefield

michel

 

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n°7 :

spoon  - Rogers Nickel Silver - 1352

find near Vimy Ridge

michel

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n°8 :

spoon - Mc Glashan - Clarke Co - 1915

find near Vimy Ridge

 

michel

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n°9 :

fork - Rogers Nickel Silver - 455

find near Vimy Ridge

michel

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n°10

for - ???

find to Loos battlefield

michel

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