Margaret9 Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 on reading my great uncles marriarge certificate, his occupation was listed as 'fisherman' and 'RNRI' serving on HMS Algol (1917). my mother is fairly sure that he came home from WW1 having suffered terrible injuries to his feet and/or legs after being in an 'explosion'. we have tried researching HMS Algol with no luck, and have not been able to discover its fate or information about the 'explosion' my great uncle experienced. my great uncle had been a fisherman working out of Lossiemouth harbour (Moray Firth, Scotland) all his life until WW1. so if anyone knows of HMS Algol, or can point us in the right direction, we dont even know what type of boat/ship it was i'm afriad. we tried to find out what 'RNRI' stands for aswell, so again if anyone can enlighten us we would be really grateful. many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambo Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Margaret First, welcome to the forum If you post his name I can add some information as I have the Morayshire Roll of Honour which will most likely list him and the ships he served on. I'm at work at the moment and then I'm off for New Year to very near Lossiemouth for the weekend so I'll do a look up on Monday night In the mean time Happy New Year Regards Hambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret9 Posted 29 December , 2006 Author Share Posted 29 December , 2006 hi hambo, thanks for your reply! of course the morayshire roll of honour! there are copies in the elgin library i completely forgot. you become so absorbed with finding information online that you forget the more traditional research methods. thankyou for your input, will let you know what we find out. thanks again, margaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spithead Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Hello Margaret HMS ALGOL Launched in 1901, Built by Goole SB, Displacement 213TG, Armament 1x6pdr, Admiralty No. 179, Port Registration Portuguese. Purchased in 1915 and converted to a Auxiliary Patrol vessel. HMS ALGOL (ex-Maria Amalia, ex-Caithnesshire) was one of nine British built trawlers purchased from Portuguese owners in September 1915. They were intended to be converted to Minesweepers but in the event were used as APVs. All survived WW1 except ANTARE and were sold out of service and returned to Portuguese ownership 17.5.19. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 we tried to find out what 'RNRI' stands for aswell, so again if anyone can enlighten us we would be really grateful. A fisherman serving on a navy trawler would normally be RNR — Royal Naval Reserve. John: I can find refs to Algol, Antares and Sirius. Do you know what the other six were called? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin47 Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Hello The nine ex Portuguese trawlers were ACHERNAR ALGENIB ALGOL ALTAIR ANTARES ARCTURUS CORVI CRUCIS CYGNI ANTARES was lost in a collision in 1918. The other eight were returned to Portugal. All best don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Thanks, Don — those are all 'star' names, I think, so Sirius must have been another in the same series, but not ex-Portuguese. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin47 Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Hello The WW I SIRIUS was an APOLLO cruiser sister ship to BRILLIANT, RAINBOW, and SAPPHO. SIRIUS operated in the Nore Command until 1915 then to West Africa. All best don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spithead Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Thanks, Don — those are all 'star' names, I think, so Sirius must have been another in the same series, but not ex-Portuguese. Mick Mick Don beat me to it with the names, but regarding 'SIRIUS' I can find no record of her in WW1 regarding the above, but the following one although later may be of interest,- SIRIUS Drifter 91/31. Belgian, hired as A/P Dr 1940-41. 'How did you come across Sirius'! Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin47 Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Hello SIRIUS was a 2nd Class Cruiser launched in 1890. You will find her and sister ships BRILLIANT, INTREPID, IPHIGENIA, and THETIS sunk as blockships in the Zeebrugge/Ostende operations. All best don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 The light cruisers Sirius and Brilliant were the blockships for the first, unsuccessful, raid on Ostend (23 April 1918). I came across a French language website where someone was asking after pix of three trawlers, Algol, Antares and Sirius — so perhaps they were WW2 vessels. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 29 December , 2006 Share Posted 29 December , 2006 Don beat me to it with the names ... He beat me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret9 Posted 30 December , 2006 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2006 hi Spithead, thanks for your information! so where would HMS Algol have operated from? surely not out of Lossie fishing harbour? would it have been a big vessel? and what about crew, how many would have been on board? sorry for all the questions... but where did you find this information, was it from a website? thanks again! margaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spithead Posted 30 December , 2006 Share Posted 30 December , 2006 hi Spithead, thanks for your information! so where would HMS Algol have operated from? surely not out of Lossie fishing harbour? would it have been a big vessel? and what about crew, how many would have been on board? sorry for all the questions... but where did you find this information, was it from a website? thanks again! margaret Hello Margaret Cannot say where ALGOL spent her wartime service as operational history's are very hard to come by. As a Auxiliary Patrol Vessel she could have been operating almost anywhere, including British ports. ALGOL was a Steam Fishing Trawler of 213 tons so would not have been a large vessel. Hard to say how many crew she had but somewhere around fifteen or so. Information obtained from G.Toghills Royal Navy Trawlers Hope this helps Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 30 December , 2006 Share Posted 30 December , 2006 Information obtained from G.Toghills Royal Navy Trawlers John, could you pl post bibliographical details. Does it include drifters? Thanks Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 30 December , 2006 Share Posted 30 December , 2006 QUOTE(Margaret9 @ Dec 29 2006, 01:08 PM) we tried to find out what 'RNRI' stands for aswell, so again if anyone can enlighten us we would be really grateful. A fisherman serving on a navy trawler would normally be RNR — Royal Naval Reserve. It is most likely to be RNRT — Royal Naval Reserve Trawler Service. Copies of their service cards are held at the National Archives, Kew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 30 December , 2006 Share Posted 30 December , 2006 John, could you pl post bibliographical details. Does it include drifters? Gerald Toghill, 'Royal Navy Trawlers, Part One Admiralty Trawlers' (ISBN: 0907771955) Martime Books, 2003 'Part Two, Requisitioned Trawlers' (ISBN: 1904459021) Maritime Books, 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lörscher Posted 30 December , 2006 Share Posted 30 December , 2006 Hello Margaret, I know that in 1918 ALGOL operated out of Gibraltar, doing patrol work and escort work (Gibraltar - Genua convois f.e.). Oliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spithead Posted 30 December , 2006 Share Posted 30 December , 2006 John, could you pl post bibliographical details. Does it include drifters? Thanks Mick Mick, be aware that Part Two (Requisitioned Trawlers) contains the index for both books. Types of trawlers are not mentioned but I have come across one or two drifters, although how many there are I cannot say. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 31 December , 2006 Share Posted 31 December , 2006 Gerald Toghill, 'Royal Navy Trawlers, Part One Admiralty Trawlers' (ISBN: 0907771955) Martime Books, 2003 'Part Two, Requisitioned Trawlers' (ISBN: 1904459021) Maritime Books, 2004 Thank you, and thanks also to John for his note about the index. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gilinsky Posted 1 January , 2007 Share Posted 1 January , 2007 Gerald Toghill, 'Royal Navy Trawlers, Part One Admiralty Trawlers' (ISBN: 0907771955) Martime Books, 2003 'Part Two, Requisitioned Trawlers' (ISBN: 1904459021) Maritime Books, 2004 Thanks for this. Does this book cover BOTH world wars etc...? Is the book still available and in print? Will check net later. Tx, John Keen on the Admiralty trawlers and drifters built and used in Canada 1917 - 1919 Are these in fact in the books or do they just focus on RN commisisoned vessels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spithead Posted 1 January , 2007 Share Posted 1 January , 2007 Thanks for this. Does this book cover BOTH world wars etc...? Is the book still available and in print? Will check net later. Tx, John Keen on the Admiralty trawlers and drifters built and used in Canada 1917 - 1919 Are these in fact in the books or do they just focus on RN commisisoned vessels? Both books are still in print, can be ordered through MARITIME BOOKS 01579 343663 www.navybooks.com or through your local bookshop. Details on Post 17. Both World Wars are covered. Trawlers are listed that were built for Britain in other country's including Canada. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret9 Posted 2 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 2 January , 2007 thankyou, we've looked at his marriage entry again and although the writing is old fashioned and faint, we are sure it does read RNRT and not RNRI as first thought. thankyou for all your contributions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambo Posted 3 January , 2007 Share Posted 3 January , 2007 Margaret If you want the look up from the Moray roll just drop me a line Until then All the best Hambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret9 Posted 10 January , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 January , 2007 Hello Margaret, I know that in 1918 ALGOL operated out of Gibraltar, doing patrol work and escort work (Gibraltar - Genua convois f.e.). Oliver Hi Oliver, where did you find the Gibralter patrol work info? margaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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