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chrisharley9

can any Welsh speaking Pal translate & check my transcription of the inscriptions on this memorial which follows

ER COFAM Y RHAI

SYR THIASANT YN

Y RHYFEL MAWR

CANYS GWELL

INI FEIRW

YN Y RHYFEL

NA GWELLED

DRYCFYDEINCENER

ANCYSSECR

my photos were not too good & my spelling of Welsh words is awful

All The Best

Chris

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Andrew Hesketh

ER COFAM Y RHAI

SYR THIASANT YN

Y RHYFEL MAWR

'In memory of those who fell in the Great War.'

The next two bits seem (if you'll forgive me) to be a bit jumbled and don't really make sense. I guess something along the lines of 'Better to have died in war than....?'

Any chance of posting the pic? It may be more immediately apparant what it says to a Welsh speaker than your assumption of what it says (again, please forgive me - no criticism or slight intended).

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Kevin O'Marah

I agree with Andrews reply adding ' It is better us to die in battle. Than see.

The last two words woud need to see to translate as they seem to have been written in a dis-lointed manner.

Kevin

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chrisharley9
I agree with Andrews reply adding ' It is better us to die in battle. Than see.

The last two words woud need to see to translate as they seem to  have been written in a dis-lointed manner.

Kevin

Probably my fault as I was working from my own bad photos - will post the photos later when I get home

All The Best

Chris

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chrisharley9

Finally the photos

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chrisharley9

& the other

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chrisharley9

Kevin/Andrew

are you able to read the above photos - if not I'll try rescanning them

All The Best

Chris

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Dragon

Chris - the second one is perfectly clear but I am struggling with the first. Can you sharpen it up at all maybe with the Sharpen facility? Please.

Gwyn

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chrisharley9

Hopefully this is better

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Kevin O'Marah

Na gwelled-Than see

---------- Still can't read

A'n cyssegr- Our safety

In memory of those

Who fell in

The Great War

For it is better

For us to die

In the war

Than see

Our safety

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Kevin O'Marah

You'r last photo was of great help, got the 'llyfr mawr'(big book) out and this is broadly translated to-

In memory of those who fell in the Great War.

It is better for us to die in war than see adversity to our Nation and our sanctuary.

Cheers

Kevin

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Kevin O'Marah

Forgot to add the Welsh verse-

Er cof am y rhai

Syrthiasant yn

Y Rhyfel Mawr.

Canys gwell

I ni feirw

Yn y rhyfel

Na gweled

Drygfyd ein Cenedl

A'n cyssegr

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chrisharley9

Kevin

Brilliant - many thanks - next time I'll make sure the photos are of better quality

All The Best

Chris

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mbriscoe

Set of pictures of the Llanberis War Memorial on FLICKR

 

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Llanberis War Memorial

In Community Centre Car Park

SH 58165 59919

 

 

 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

The bottom plaque says:

"Respect the memorial and this location on all occasions. Thank you."

 

I wonder why they had to issue that guidance?

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Scalyback
9 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said:

The bottom plaque says:

"Respect the memorial and this location on all occasions. Thank you."

 

I wonder why they had to issue that guidance?

 

Anti social youth? Bit pointless having it in Welsh for tourists.

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mbriscoe
9 minutes ago, Scalyback said:

 

Anti social youth? Bit pointless having it in Welsh for tourists.

 

It is in Welsh and English.

 

It might be because it is in the car park, a polite way of asking people not to park across the memorial. 

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clive_hughes

I gather that this style of memorial was chosen despite a strong ex-service desire that a memorial hall be built instead.  But this one didn't cost the local council so much...    As a result many locals used to refer to it as "the sauce bottle"!  

 

Clive

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seaJane

Does Jim Strawbridge know about the VAD at the head of the list?

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mbriscoe

Not sure.

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Hywyn
Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, seaJane said:

Does Jim Strawbridge know about the VAD at the head of the list?

 

Yes, I believe he does.

 

 

Revised to " Yes, he does"

see   

 

Edited by Hywyn

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seaJane

Thank you @Hywyn.

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Herekawe

I was there in August last year all the way from NZ, had a swim in the lake spent 5 mins looking at the war memorial. Sheep were wandering up and down the street, but that didn't make us feel at home because that never happens in NZ. Visited the slate museum, nice steam engines. Smaller world.

Edited by Herekawe

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mbriscoe
18 minutes ago, Herekawe said:

I was there in August last year all the way from NZ, had a swim in the lake spent 5 mins looking at the war memorial. Sheep were wandering up and down the street, but that didn't make us feel at home because that never happens in NZ. Visited the slate museum, nice steam engines. Smaller world.

 

 

I suspect the sheep farms in NZ are a bit bigger than the Welsh ones!  :)

 

 

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