rap1943 Posted 27 June , 2005 Share Posted 27 June , 2005 John All the best with the project. If you need anything on 16th KRRC - I have the War Diary and Chronicle - just yell. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine liava'a Posted 27 June , 2005 Share Posted 27 June , 2005 John, Who are the 2 NZers? Christine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 2 July , 2005 Author Share Posted 2 July , 2005 Christine Apologies for not responding sooner - I've been away. The two NZs are:- Lt Alan Hurst Preston , 10/910, 5 Coy, NZ MGC, DOW 7/6/17 Sgt Sydney Willshaw, 12/4554, 2nd Bn , Auckland Rgt, 6/9/18 Any info or pointers in the right direction greatly appreciated. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine liava'a Posted 2 July , 2005 Share Posted 2 July , 2005 Surname PRESTON Given Name Allan Henry Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1 Regimental Number 10/910 Rank Private Body or Draft Main Body Unit or Regiment Wellington Infantry Batln Marital Status S Last NZ Address Makauri Gisborne Next of Kin Title James W Next of Kin Surname PRESTON Next of Kin Address Westbourne Devonport Stockport England Surname WILLSHAW Given Name Sydney Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2 Regimental Number 12/4554 Rank Private Next of Kin Title W Next of Kin Surname WILLSHAW Next of Kin Relationship Father Next of Kin Address High Lane near Stockport Cheshire England Roll 28 Page 7 Occupation Labourer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 2 July , 2005 Author Share Posted 2 July , 2005 Christine Thanks very much for this info. I've spotted, on another thread, links to request service papers so I've now whizzed off an email to them. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine liava'a Posted 2 July , 2005 Share Posted 2 July , 2005 Probate records Sydney Willshaw Gisborne woolclasser court- Wellington Archives reference AAOM 6029 28094 probate number 28094 filed date 20 November 1919 Archives NZ- Wellington Allan Hurst Preston Makauri Station hand court Wellington Archives reference AAOM 6029 24455 probate number 24455 filed date 30 Sept 1918 Archives NZ Wellington Archives NZ http://www.archives.govt.nz/doingresearch.html NZDF Military Archives Both their personnel records are still available at Military Archives personnel.archives@nzdf.mil.nz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine liava'a Posted 2 July , 2005 Share Posted 2 July , 2005 Gisborne War Memorial http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/...-gisb-sold.html I don't know whether either of them is on the memorial, but they could be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 2 July , 2005 Author Share Posted 2 July , 2005 Christine The Gisborne memorial has nearly 600 names. Do you know how big the borough might have been at the time? I know the population is about 45K now so, I assume, much smaller then. I'm wondering what the likelihood was that they might have known each other. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christine liava'a Posted 3 July , 2005 Share Posted 3 July , 2005 The only figures I can find are that the population of Gisborne increased by 600% between 1891 and 1921. Apparently farming areas grew quickly with the influx of British immigrants in the 1890s The population of Gisborne (province)in 1891 was approximately 5000, so that makes it about 30,000 in 1921. But remember that at least half of these were Maori- the East Coast was the the most Maori of all provinces, and still is, which makes about 15,000 non-Maori, most in the town of Gisborne, but many out farming in smaller settlements. Makauri, where Preston lived, is a small settlement inland from Gisborne City, now really a suburb, but in 1917 a separate place However they were both involved with farming, one as a stationhand, and one as a wool classer, who sorted and graded wool after it was shorn, so could easily have come across each other in their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 3 July , 2005 Share Posted 3 July , 2005 John, Quite a project, congratulations and well done. Not sure if you need anything from my neck of the woods, if so just ask. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 3 July , 2005 Author Share Posted 3 July , 2005 Christine I've emailed the town's Local History Library to see if they have any useful info on the guys and also if they can confirm if they are on the memorial. Good pointers - many thanks. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Soul Posted 24 July , 2005 Share Posted 24 July , 2005 When you get time send me the new "King's Own" list. If my old email address doesn't work send me a PM. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags_greenwood@yahoo.co.uk Posted 25 July , 2005 Share Posted 25 July , 2005 When you get time send me the new "King's Own" list. If my old email address doesn't work send me a PM. Andy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi John I don't know if it will be of any help, but I shall be visiting Stockport in a few weeks time, as I promised another "Pal" photos of the war memorial. I shall be there for the day, so I don't mind doing any look-ups or photographs. Kind regards Margaret (As you probably know, the hard part for me has been posting the photos, but am getting the hang of it now!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJCarss Posted 31 July , 2005 Share Posted 31 July , 2005 Hi John I have a Digital pic of David Farringtons grave if you need it? Who are the other 3 Black Watch? Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 1 August , 2005 Author Share Posted 1 August , 2005 Andy/Fred - I've had an enforced couple of weeks off-line and am only just back on today. I have had 'orrible technical problems and am still not sure if my PC is fully healthy. As such I don't want to load any data back onto the machine. I'll get back to you in a few days. Many thanks. Margaret - I live in Stockport so have problem with piccies or local research - but many thanks for the offer. I assume you are visiting the memorial to photo certain names? If so, can I recommend that you pop into the Local Heritage Library to see if there were any newspaper obituaries. The Library is 5 minutes walk back towards the town centre from the Memorial. If the chaps served with the Cheshires, I can let you have the info directly - PM me if necessary. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lewis Posted 1 August , 2005 Share Posted 1 August , 2005 John Just to say congratulations and good luck with your project. Your site inspired me to create my own,this new project has definitely got me thinking You know where I am if you need any info from my area of the country. Regards Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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