BLCHS Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March Private Frederick Gutteridge, #31501, Machine Gun Corps I am part of a couple of local historians trying to trace the history of approximately 30 men from the village of Batron-Le-Clay in Bedfordshire during WW1. All these men are on the village war memorial or church scroll. We have completed extensive family history research based on the fallen, and now we are progressing to their military service. We have researched Fred's immediate family.. image is attached, FMP/Ancestry We have some information about his enlistment at Luton, Bedfordshire. #22675 Bedfordshire Regiment, Ancestry. An initial TNA search has uncovered a MIC. From his MIC we confirm his details as #31501, Machine Gun Corps. We have noted that Helion & Company have a pdf with the additional information: "Fatalities attached to 36th (Ulster) Division 21-31 March 1918..... GUTTERIDGE FREDERICK 21/03/1918 Private Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) 36th Bn. France" Checking this with The Long, Long Trail, there is an entry "On 21 March 1918 the Division was holding a sector of the British front line and Forward Zone south-west of St Quentin. The main defences consisted of a number of isolated redoubts, in which the Ulstermen held on for several hours while under bombardment and ultimately being surrounded and cut off" I have not had any connection to the 36th (Ulster) Division before, if anyone could advise me where any additional records may be found It would be greatly appreciated. Jenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March Not my field really but there was this earlier thread on the 36 Bn, MGC [I've not read in detail] = Might help you [or something to read whilst a more knowledgeable member comes along!] https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/257623-36th-battalion-machine-gun-corps/ M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March Image courtesy of Find a Grave website Private Frederick Gutteridge (unknown-1918) - Find a Grave Memorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March His service record has survived and can be seen on Ancestry via the link below. Ancestry.co.uk - UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March A Mrs C. Gutteridge, then living at Hexton Road, Barton, made a missing persons enquiry to the International Committee of the Red Cross. Sadly they would have to reply in August 1918 that no information had been received from the German authorities. https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/5240578/3/2/ Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March Just in case you do not have access to Ancestry (image courtesy of Ancestry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March Attached image (courtesy of Ancestry) gives a little more detail of his service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March His service record can also be found on Find My Past -- has been indexed as Gotteridge British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Image | findmypast.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March One page summary of the events of the day involving the 36th (Ulster) Division can be found here http://www.webmatters.net/index.php?id=2278 Battalion War Diary is probably sparse if not non-existant for the period in question, but as it can currently be downloaded for free from the National Archive it might be worthwhile checking out. It can be found in the online catalogue here :- https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354008 (You do have to sign in with your account - if you don't have one even that can be set up as part of placing your first order. Just click on "sign in" and follow the instructions - no financial details are requested. Alternatively it can be viewed page by page on Ancestry. On creation of the Battalion the old MGC companys were renamed - usually A, B, C and D. Hopefully the War Diary will confirm which of these the 107th Company became. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLCHS Posted 17 March Author Share Posted 17 March So much great information, thank you everyone! I did find some information on https://www.nickmetcalfe.co.uk/. This points to Grugies, and maybe the Race Course Redoubt..... "the Ulster Division’s frontage was divided into three sectors, each allocated to a brigade. 108th Brigade was on the right, 107th Brigade held the centre and 109th Brigade was on the left.’" This also comes to light in the new sources too 2 hours ago, PRC said: One page summary of the events of the day involving the 36th (Ulster) Division can be found here http://www.webmatters.net/index.php?id=2278 Battalion War Diary is probably sparse if not non-existant for the period in question, but as it can currently be downloaded for free from the National Archive it might be worthwhile checking out. It can be found in the online catalogue here :- https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354008 (You do have to sign in with your account - if you don't have one even that can be set up as part of placing your first order. Just click on "sign in" and follow the instructions - no financial details are requested. Alternatively it can be viewed page by page on Ancestry. On creation of the Battalion the old MGC companys were renamed - usually A, B, C and D. Hopefully the War Diary will confirm which of these the 107th Company became. Cheers, Peter Thanks for the link, I have a TNA account for family history research but, getting my head around the military files is going to take some time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLCHS Posted 17 March Author Share Posted 17 March 2 hours ago, Allan1892 said: His service record can also be found on Find My Past -- has been indexed as Gotteridge British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Image | findmypast.co.uk Wow, never would have found that, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March 27 minutes ago, BLCHS said: Wow, never would have found that, thank you! Happy to assist wherever I can It's a bit annoying with poor indexing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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