battle of loos Posted 16 March Share Posted 16 March good morning, I need you for identify this soldier : I dont find the Medal card. I hop this DT is for the 1st world war. thank's in advance for your help. regards michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 16 March Share Posted 16 March The nearest that I can see is C. W. Burney but his service numbers, including 314572, do not match what I am seeing here. Would "A.I." have a particular meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 16 March Author Share Posted 16 March it's not myne. it's for a friend. I see FURNEY ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 16 March Share Posted 16 March Likewise, what does "Z.O." signify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 16 March Author Share Posted 16 March find in Deux Sèvres departmnt in France. may be 2nd WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 16 March Share Posted 16 March I would expect a 7 or 8 digit number for a WW2 other ranks soldier of the British Army https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/new-british-army-numbers-issued-in-1920/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March It is very much not a dog tag. It's an identity disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March Nowhere near a perfect match, but there's this man, the closest I can see. There are only 14 Furneys wth MICs, and nothing resembling the data on the disc.: Charles W Burney Sapper Royal Engineers 314572 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March 19 hours ago, battle of loos said: good morning, I need you for identify this soldier : I dont find the Medal card. I hop this DT is for the 1st world war. thank's in advance for your help. regards michel It is unlikely to be a Great War Identity disc as it has no regimental or corps markings. A naval id is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 17 March Author Share Posted 17 March good morning, thank's for your answer. regards michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March I came across this yesterday https://www.westernfrontassociation.com/world-war-i-articles/identifying-the-dead-a-short-study-of-the-identification-tags-of-1914-1918/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March C.O. Furney ? Australian Infantry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 17 March Author Share Posted 17 March have you a link about the Australian archive for search this soldier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March If there were AIF soldiers with the surname Furney, they can be found by searching the NAA website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 17 March Share Posted 17 March 1 hour ago, battle of loos said: have you a link about the Australian archive for search this soldier? The NAA site has to me seemingly become harder to use in recent years but here is a link that may get you started. https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle of loos Posted 17 March Author Share Posted 17 March I find 3 "FURNEY" but I don't see with the other information in the dog tag. michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 18 March Share Posted 18 March (edited) 16 hours ago, Matlock1418 said: The NAA site has to me seemingly become harder to use in recent years Agree entirely. It seems you can no longer filter down to just military records of the First AIF without specifying the Series Number (B2455)* And even then only lists 20,000 records (out of over 300,000). * unless you select the 'Name' tab, where World War I becomes a selectable option in the 'Category of Records' box. Edited 18 March by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 March Share Posted 18 March (edited) One for @tankengine888 to dig into perhaps? Do Australian infantry soldiers of WW1 usually have “A.I.” on their identity discs? Edited 18 March by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankengine888 Posted 18 March Share Posted 18 March I find only 2616 Ernest Furney, and he doesnt fit the bill. 572- AWM comes up with 150 odd hits, the only 'F' being a certain Fulton, certainly no match there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 18 March Share Posted 18 March 16 hours ago, battle of loos said: I find 3 "FURNEY" but I don't see with the other information in the dog tag. michel It's not a "dog tag". It's an identity disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 March Share Posted 18 March (edited) 41 minutes ago, tankengine888 said: I find only 2616 Ernest Furney, and he doesnt fit the bill. 572- AWM comes up with 150 odd hits, the only 'F' being a certain Fulton, certainly no match there. Again, is the A.I. relevant to Australia specifically? Edited 18 March by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 18 March Share Posted 18 March (edited) I think that the placement of the full stops have significance and I read the lettering to be: A.I. 572. O.G. (or O.C.) Furney. C. of. E. ZO. Edited 18 March by high wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clancy Posted 20 March Share Posted 20 March Hello, I hope nobody minds, but I am trying to improve my research skills and thought I would have a try at identifying the tag. So I have found the following for Cormac Cullinan Furney on Findmypast: Under "scope and content" it mentions his number is IA572. I know the tag indicates A.I. 572, but I had a look around for other soldiers in the 14th Punjab Regiment, not necessarily WW1 as although it mentions year of enlistment 1918 the service seems to be between wars so I also looked at WW2 and found the following on a WW2 forum AI/420 Major Neville Glynn WILLIAMS, MC - 14th Punjab Regt: 23/03/1945 | WW2Talk: He is also 14th Punjab Regiment but what appears to be a lower service number is styled A.I. I wondered if the tag was styled the same way and also indicating Indian Army. Reading up on tags the C.of.E would be Church of England. However, I don't know what "Z.O" would stand for - I have read they also included blood groups which this isn't but also rank (officer). I don't know. I found a couple of other bits and bobs including a photo (not in uniform) but haven't posted them as I clearly may be incorrect. Just putting it out there. Kind regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 20 March Share Posted 20 March Excellent research well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 20 March Share Posted 20 March Yes, it looks as though this is his identity disk. If I understand correctly, he was commissioned 16 December 1918, and later served in the 14th Punjab Regiment. This now raises the question as to when he was in the area, and how he came to lose his identity disk. Did officers of the Indian Army and British Army receive numbers in the interwar period? I have seen numbers for British Army officers in WW2 editions of the London Gazette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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