corisande Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January And a couple of things from his service record on Ancestry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January 2 minutes ago, corisande said: To get the order of things 1897 Jul 28 Born Poplar (not 1898 as in OP info). it is 1897 in 1939 reg and death record 1900 Oct 29 admitted tol Marner Road School birth as 27 Jul 1897 1911 census living at St Leonards Road, with his widowed mother and siblings 1915 MAr (circa) served in Mercatile Marine with Natal line 1916 May 16 Attested to Devonshire Regt. 194 St Leonards Rd, Poplar 1916 May 16 Applied for temp exemption from one more voyage 1916 Sep 29 Mobilised to Devonshire Regt as # 41625 1916 Nov 9 Transfer to DCLI as #34317 in 13th (Works) Batn 1916 Nov 10 posted to France 1917 May 9 Transfer Labour Corps as #94010 1919 Jun 3 Discharged 1939 Register He is a shopkeeper living in Stepney with his wife 1980 Aug 21 died Thanks Corisande, a nice summary for J T SHAUGHNESSY ... Now who has a possible 1921 Census entry to add? And its better settled the spelling of his surname and set my mind at rest regarding a 1897 birth. M 26 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: Tower Hamlets have a part list for 1920 only, and a quick search for surname 'SHAUG*' shows nothing. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61320/ 26 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: Quite right. Nothing more than ' 34317 Pte. D. of Corn.L.I. ' Thanks for looking - and at the MR even though we probably both knew it was a slim chance of success. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January 1 minute ago, Matlock1418 said: set my mind at rest regarding a 1897 birth. If you read that snippet I posted above from his service record, he himself to to Government to say he was born in 1897 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January 1 minute ago, corisande said: If you read that snippet I posted above from his service record, he himself to to Government to say he was born in 1897 I did read it and was sort of combining my repllies. As I said - you [he] set my mind at rest. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January (edited) 13 hours ago, Matlock1418 said: Image thanks to TNA Address seems to be 194 St Leonard's Rd, Poplar E14 - I wonder if this matches or links to his Army SR?? The noted Army Service Record helpfully shows this seaman, James Thomas SHAUGHNESSY, is our person of interest as it shows the same address. It also shows that he was a [Ship's] Sea Cook before he joined the Army. Note for Carina. - If you haven't subscription access to Ancestry it is quite commonly possible to access for free via a UK public library so as to see his SR [as I have just done!] His SR record is a wealth of other info about his Army service. M Edit: Also be aware that his Army service record is also likely to be at Find My Past - typically with better clarity. Try https://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/results?sourcecategory=armed+forces+%26+conflict&sid=101&firstname=james+thomas&firstname_variants=true&lastname=shaughnessy&yearofbirth=1897&yearofbirth_offset=1&soldiernumber=34317&keywordsplace_proximity=5&sourcecountry=great+britain - free trial & short membership is possible and some libraries might offer access too. Edited 28 January by Matlock1418 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew pugh Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January Hi Just been reading this thread, and it seems to be very special. We now have the children of ww1 veterans who are asking us, forum members for information about their parents which is an honour, They are asking these question now probably because their parents didn't want to talk about the war to them. Regards Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawhiri Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January (edited) On 28/01/2024 at 06:55, corisande said: To get the order of things 1897 Jul 28 Born Poplar (not 1898 as in OP info). it is 1897 in 1939 reg and death record 1900 Oct 29 admitted tol Marner Road School birth as 27 Jul 1897 1911 census living at St Leonards Road, with his widowed mother and siblings 1915 MAr (circa) served in Mercatile Marine with Natal line 1916 May 16 Attested to Devonshire Regt. 194 St Leonards Rd, Poplar 1916 May 16 Applied for temp exemption from one more voyage 1916 Sep 29 Mobilised to Devonshire Regt as # 41625 1916 Nov 9 Transfer to DCLI as #34317 in 13th (Works) Batn 1916 Nov 10 posted to France 1917 May 9 Transfer Labour Corps as #94010 1919 Jun 3 Discharged 1939 Register He is a shopkeeper living in Stepney with his wife 1980 Aug 21 died We can also add that in 1901 the family were living at the same address, or at least in the same street, with father James very much alive. Looking at the age of the youngest child in the 1911 census, who is aged 5, this suggests that father James died sometime after 1905. I'm not seeing a likely death for a James Shaughnessy in this time frame, but there is this death of a 49-year old James O'Shaughnessy registered in Poplar in the second quarter of 1908 that would fit both location and age-wise based on his stated age in the 1901 England and Wales census. O'SHAUGHNESSY, JAMES 49 GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 267 Looking at the births of the younger children, Anne's maiden name was Donaghy SHAUGHNESSY, HUGH Mother's maiden name: DONAGHY GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 630 SHAUGHNESSY, MAUD MARGARET Mother's maiden name: DONAGHY GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 613 SHAUGHNESSY, CATHERINE Mother's maiden name: DONAGHY GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 579 Edited 30 January by Tawhiri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancpal Posted 28 January Share Posted 28 January Wouldn’t this thread be better by being split into two separate ones? The original topic was regarding surviving children of WW1 veterans but has morphed into in-depth (and pretty good) biographical research regarding Pte Shaugnessy. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carina Brackett Posted 30 January Author Share Posted 30 January Regarding Mancpal’s post, I am eternally grateful to Corisande, Tawhiri and Matlock for the information they have provided about my Dad. It will enable me to make my own enquiries and their time and trouble are much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmeg Posted 27 April Share Posted 27 April My mother died 4 years ago , but was the daughter of an RFC veteran. He was 51 when she was born but he died 18 months later so she never remembered anything about him. Although not ww1 my grandfather's maternal grandfather was a British Army veteran, born in 1800. He was 58 when my grandfather's mother was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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