chaz Posted 21 December , 2023 Share Posted 21 December , 2023 if you want to check out the bar differences https://www.medalsofengland.com/medals.php?id=155&medalid=836 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2207 Posted 21 December , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 December , 2023 well said Chaz, i could not agree more. the flood of German fakes has really made it hard to collect ,especially for the new collectors. They save to buy that iron cross 2nd class as that's all they can afford and it turns out to be a fake.Only to jade them and turn them away from the hobby. Erasing a medal to me feels as you are disrespecting that soldier.The sacrifice they have made for all of us should be remembered big and small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2207 Posted 21 December , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 December , 2023 thank you. i will definitely be replacing his bar at some point.Here in the States they are quite hard to come buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2207 Posted 21 December , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 December , 2023 I would like to take a moment and thank everyone for there kind help as it means a lot to me, and wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 21 December , 2023 Share Posted 21 December , 2023 On 19/12/2023 at 21:30, chaz said: ...the stars, if faked, are normally the later WW2 ones, around the suspension loop... I've never seen one of those. Any more info about them? Were they official issue? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 21 December , 2023 Share Posted 21 December , 2023 Dave there are a few postings on various forum https://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/franceandgermanystar.htm https://www.medalsofengland.com/medals.php?id=148&medalid=803 https://gmic.co.uk/topic/32680-original-vs-reproduction-wwii-stars/ AFAIK the differences, being, position of lettering dimples or raised dots flattened rings joint of ring flattened ring holes colour of parts sharp points general feel flat backs or dished backs. there are the original issued medals, tailors copies and the current repro ones as well as fake ones. there will probably be other differences, and then add in the intentionally damaged/aged ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 21 December , 2023 Share Posted 21 December , 2023 Blimey, it seems to be a minefield collecting these stars…..thanks for the links Chaz. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 21 December , 2023 Share Posted 21 December , 2023 1 hour ago, chaz said: Dave there are a few postings on various forum https://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/franceandgermanystar.htm https://www.medalsofengland.com/medals.php?id=148&medalid=803 https://gmic.co.uk/topic/32680-original-vs-reproduction-wwii-stars/ AFAIK the differences, being, position of lettering dimples or raised dots flattened rings joint of ring flattened ring holes colour of parts sharp points general feel flat backs or dished backs. there are the original issued medals, tailors copies and the current repro ones as well as fake ones. there will probably be other differences, and then add in the intentionally damaged/aged ones. Thanks. I'm familiar with the ww2 ones having been stung a long time ago with an Air Crew in a London market. I had to deep dive to validate a replacement I intended to buy. I was slightly confused by the above post that seemed to me to suggest different 1914 or 15 stars issued during WW2. My misunderstanding. Interesting to see though, that I'll need to revisit my WW2 stars and examine them closely! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 22 December , 2023 Share Posted 22 December , 2023 Always happy to assist wherever I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive ex RAF plumber Posted 23 December , 2023 Share Posted 23 December , 2023 On 21/12/2023 at 16:52, chaz said: I tend to keep away from the following. WW1 /2 Iron cross 1st or 2nd class.. too many copies, very good ones but multiple makers originally, now being remade in the Eastern Bloc. The money in German medals is in the paperwork as medals un named as issued. WW2 British Stars. these were copied look for suspension rings, flat back, the Air Crew Europe is the dearest and for that reason faked. the rest, if I want to make up a group I buy original as cheap enough rather than buy newly made. the biggest offender here is the medal slips. Many boxes available and slips on ebay to enhance cheap medals. thats the extent of my purchase power, the BMF has more info from other medals. But, the biggest sin is buying erased WW1 British medals, there are enough cheaper copies to use as fillers, or use an original but keep a record of the name incase someone else wants it. Buying erased encourages others to do the same, Is it true that later issue (1970's onwards) official stars had larger suspension rings than those issued just post war? Regards Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNCVR Posted 23 December , 2023 Share Posted 23 December , 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Clive ex RAF plumber said: Is it true that later issue (1970's onwards) official stars had larger suspension rings than those issued just post war? Regards Clive @Clive ex RAF plumber Yes, certainly in Canada. Unsure about UK tho, possibly? Edited 23 December , 2023 by RNCVR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2207 Posted 26 December , 2023 Author Share Posted 26 December , 2023 Were there different manufactures for ww1 stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 26 December , 2023 Share Posted 26 December , 2023 not sure but there was a big order put in to the minting of all of the medals. The death plaques were made in a couple of places so it seems reasonable the medals could well have gone to different suppliers. Gaunt's and others were commissioned to make badges and as we know, there have been a few die's come up for sale this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2207 Posted 26 December , 2023 Author Share Posted 26 December , 2023 I would think that to be reasonable as well chaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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