Selina Posted 8 July , 2022 Share Posted 8 July , 2022 Hello, My mum was raised by her grandparents. She will be 81 years old in a few weeks. I was able to find the Norfolks Regiment "Roll of Individuals" which did list her grandfather, Alfred G. Ashby as having been eligible for two medals (see attached). I want to order duplicate medals and make a "Shadow Box" containing the medals to gift to my mum. I want to check if there is a military picture of him dressed in his uniform as we do not have any. Even a group photo would be great. I just don't know where and/or how to search . My great-grandfather lived in Northampton and most likely joined in the Spring of 1918 and went over to France in or about Oct 1918. He was injured in Flanders and had to stay in medical facilities for approx. 9 months. We were previously successful with finding out quite a bit of information on this site by several knowledgeable and kind men. Would the Northamptonshire Library, by chance, have any photos? Do have any suggestions? We live in the states and so we cannot go to a location but can utilize other methods. Thank you in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 8 July , 2022 Share Posted 8 July , 2022 Selina, you best approach for images would be local newspapers of the time, the British Newspaper Archive would be a good starting point here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony paley Posted 11 July , 2022 Share Posted 11 July , 2022 Selina, You could try the Norfolk Regimental Museum. The address that I have is :- The Shirehall, Market Avenue, Norwich, NR1 3JQ. e-mail www.norfolk.gov.uk/tourism/museums/regi.htm It is an outside chance that they have images, but they would give you an outline of you ancestor's service. Tony P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 11 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 11 July , 2022 10 hours ago, tony paley said: Selina, You could try the Norfolk Regimental Museum. The address that I have is :- The Shirehall, Market Avenue, Norwich, NR1 3JQ. e-mail www.norfolk.gov.uk/tourism/museums/regi.htm It is an outside chance that they have images, but they would give you an outline of you ancestor's service. Tony P Thank you for your response and yes I will be following up On 08/07/2022 at 15:44, jay dubaya said: Selina, you best approach for images would be local newspapers of the time, the British Newspaper Archive would be a good starting point here Thank you for your response and I will be following up on your response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 1 hour ago, Selina said: Thank you for your response and yes I will be following up Thank you for your response and I will be following up on your response Hello Selina. Private Alfred George Ashby, 39178, is listed as wounded on the War Office Daily List no 5740 5/12/18. I have attached the copy though it is very small. The link will take you to the record. https://digital.nls.uk/british-military-lists/archive/194170822 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 Selina, the War Diary for the 9th Norfolks for 1st October - 31st October 1918 has Alfred listed as being wounded, bottom left on the attached, or the whole record for that month can be found at https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053221 If you register with the National. Archives it is free to download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 (edited) As you say Alfred didn't join the unit until 1918 but I have listed the links covering the whole service of the battalion which records contemporaneously the actions and day to day life. 01/08/15- 30/04/19 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4554774 01/08/15 - 31/12/16 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053218 01/01/17 - 31/03/18 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053219 01/04/18 - 30/09/18 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053220 01/10/18 - 31/10/18 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053221 01/11/18 - 30/04/19 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053222 Edited 12 July , 2022 by Gunner 87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 Selina There is an Narrative of the Operations from 08/10/1918 to 10/10/1918, which includes the part played by the Norfolks, attached to the War Diary of 71 Infantry Brigade (Appendix 17). TNA ref WO 95/1620. On Ancestry Piece 1620 - Map p 610 and Narrative begins p 612. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinesheadvillage Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 Hi Selina If your Great Grandfather was the Alfred George Ashby, born 23 July 1899, resident Dunston St James, Northampton in 1911 (as per the casualty report), Ancestry has a photo of him as below (courtesy of Ancestry) https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-viewer/tree/169389490/person/382197053894/media/034cb169-046b-4042-85d5-d696e2e7999d Not in military uniform, but nice to put a face to a name The 1939 register has Alfred living at 75, Queen Eleanor Road, Northampton. Street view here:- https://www.instantstreetview.com/@52.222759,-0.904459,97.47h,5p,0z,qt7HBJs39yFOgXTZ3NVoIg Hope this helps Kind Regards Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 (edited) I see that National Roll of the Great War, Northampton, has an entry for an AJ Ashby of the Norfolk's, wounded 1918. Address given as 22 Mill Rd, Northampton. I wondered whether this could be him (making allowance for initials error) No photo I'm afraid. "National Roll of the Great War 1914-1918 Image | findmypast.co.uk" https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWWINR%2FROLL-12%2F262&parentid=GBM%2FWWINR%2F0002507 Private A. J. Ashby, Norfolk Regiment Joining in January 1918 he was drafted to the Western Front on completion of his training later in the same year, and there saw much heavy fighting. He took part in the Battle of Le Cateau and minor engagements until, severely wounded, he was admitted to hospital in England. He was invalided from the Army in January 1919 and holds the General Service and Victory Medals. 22, Mill Road, Northampton. Edited 12 July , 2022 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 (edited) PS. If not a red herring, In the same book with same home address is a G Ashby of the Royal Defence Corps, a prewar Northamptonshire Regt man, who died in UK 1916... G ASHBY Having previously served with the 16th Northamptonshire Regiment, he re-enlisted in the Royal Defence Corps in May 1915, and was retained on important duties at various stations. Contracting pneumonia, he unhappily died on May 16th, 1916, after 15 years’ combined service. " Steals on the ear the distant triumph song." 22, Mill Road, Northampton. Edited 12 July , 2022 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 12 July , 2022 Share Posted 12 July , 2022 Selina, I see on your old thread that you mentioned above and which I link below, that the Mill Rd address is indeed your ancestor and that George was father of Alfred. So the AJ is your AG ! Link to prev thread: "WWI - Search for Great-Grandfather Alfred George Ashby - Page 2 - Soldiers and their units - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum" https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/279026-wwi-search-for-great-grandfather-alfred-george-ashby/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 16 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2022 On 11/07/2022 at 09:06, tony paley said: Selina, You could try the Norfolk Regimental Museum. The address that I have is :- The Shirehall, Market Avenue, Norwich, NR1 3JQ. e-mail www.norfolk.gov.uk/tourism/museums/regi.htm It is an outside chance that they have images, but they would give you an outline of you ancestor's service. Tony P Tony, My mum and I only just reviewed all the posts. Overwhelming the responses. My mum will be 81 years of age this Sat and seeing the picture posted below by another of her Pap was both emotional and wonderful! We are just so grateful to you and all those that helped. I will be contacting the Norfolk Regimental Museum to see if they may have some pictures of my great-grandfather in uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 16 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2022 On 11/07/2022 at 21:18, Gunner 87 said: Hello Selina. Private Alfred George Ashby, 39178, is listed as wounded on the War Office Daily List no 5740 5/12/18. I have attached the copy though it is very small. The link will take you to the record. https://digital.nls.uk/british-military-lists/archive/194170822 Thank you so much for doing the extra step. We only just saw these posts and we will be reviewing the link you attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 16 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2022 On 11/07/2022 at 21:54, Gunner 87 said: As you say Alfred didn't join the unit until 1918 but I have listed the links covering the whole service of the battalion which records contemporaneously the actions and day to day life. 01/08/15- 30/04/19 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4554774 01/08/15 - 31/12/16 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053218 01/01/17 - 31/03/18 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053219 01/04/18 - 30/09/18 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053220 01/10/18 - 31/10/18 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053221 01/11/18 - 30/04/19 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053222 We only just saw these posts today. Unbelievable what gifts we have been provided by you and all those that responded to my post. Would these links that you provided be the same as the "whole record" as you had previously indicated in your last response? Or are they different? On 12/07/2022 at 02:35, brianmorris547 said: Selina There is an Narrative of the Operations from 08/10/1918 to 10/10/1918, which includes the part played by the Norfolks, attached to the War Diary of 71 Infantry Brigade (Appendix 17). TNA ref WO 95/1620. On Ancestry Piece 1620 - Map p 610 and Narrative begins p 612. Brian Hi Brian, We only just are reviewing all the posts. My mum and I thank for pointing this information out and we will be following up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 16 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2022 On 12/07/2022 at 05:28, Swinesheadvillage said: Hi Selina If your Great Grandfather was the Alfred George Ashby, born 23 July 1899, resident Dunston St James, Northampton in 1911 (as per the casualty report), Ancestry has a photo of him as below (courtesy of Ancestry) https://www.ancestry.co.uk/mediaui-viewer/tree/169389490/person/382197053894/media/034cb169-046b-4042-85d5-d696e2e7999d Not in military uniform, but nice to put a face to a name The 1939 register has Alfred living at 75, Queen Eleanor Road, Northampton. Street view here:- https://www.instantstreetview.com/@52.222759,-0.904459,97.47h,5p,0z,qt7HBJs39yFOgXTZ3NVoIg Hope this helps Kind Regards Derek Derek, We only now are responding to all of the posts. My mum was very emotional when she saw this picture of her Pap. Thank you so much. She was so thrilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 16 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2022 On 12/07/2022 at 05:59, charlie962 said: I see that National Roll of the Great War, Northampton, has an entry for an AJ Ashby of the Norfolk's, wounded 1918. Address given as 22 Mill Rd, Northampton. I wondered whether this could be him (making allowance for initials error) No photo I'm afraid. "National Roll of the Great War 1914-1918 Image | findmypast.co.uk" https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWWINR%2FROLL-12%2F262&parentid=GBM%2FWWINR%2F0002507 Private A. J. Ashby, Norfolk Regiment Joining in January 1918 he was drafted to the Western Front on completion of his training later in the same year, and there saw much heavy fighting. He took part in the Battle of Le Cateau and minor engagements until, severely wounded, he was admitted to hospital in England. He was invalided from the Army in January 1919 and holds the General Service and Victory Medals. 22, Mill Road, Northampton. Charlie, We only are now reviewing all the posts. This made me cry. This detailed information is invaluable to us as a family. My mum and I are astonished at this and what everyone has discovered about Pappy Ashby. Thank you so very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 16 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2022 On 12/07/2022 at 06:10, charlie962 said: PS. If not a red herring, In the same book with same home address is a G Ashby of the Royal Defence Corps, a prewar Northamptonshire Regt man, who died in UK 1916... G ASHBY Having previously served with the 16th Northamptonshire Regiment, he re-enlisted in the Royal Defence Corps in May 1915, and was retained on important duties at various stations. Contracting pneumonia, he unhappily died on May 16th, 1916, after 15 years’ combined service. " Steals on the ear the distant triumph song." 22, Mill Road, Northampton. That must be his dad, George Ashby. We knew he served in the Boer War but we never knew he served in WWI too. So that means both father and son served in WWI. Wow!! That is just unbelievable what you have found here. Thank you so much. Can we also use all the resources provided her to try to find out information about George Ashby as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 16 July , 2022 Share Posted 16 July , 2022 5 minutes ago, Selina said: That must be his dad, George Ashby. We knew he served in the Boer War but we never knew he served in WWI too. So that means both father and son served in WWI. Wow!! That is just unbelievable what you have found here. Thank you so much. Can we also use all the resources provided her to try to find out information about George Ashby as well? Were they born in Northampton ? (I ask because my mother's side were Ashby's from Runham.). Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selina Posted 16 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 July , 2022 48 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: Were they born in Northampton ? (I ask because my mother's side were Ashby's from Runham.). Craig From the little we know, George was from Milton outside of Northampton. Not sure before that where they were from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 16 July , 2022 Share Posted 16 July , 2022 (edited) There is a surviving service record of a George Ashby, b Milton, attested to the Northamptonshire Regiment 5/2/1888 claiming he was 18 years old. Service number 2137. Father named Joseph. He served until 2/2/1901, with a spell in South Africa Oct 1899- Dec 1900. Findmypast here but probably also on Ancestry or Fold3. "British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Image | findmypast.co.uk" https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F4272%2F111%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F4272%2F499836 Soldier's Died in the Great War has him as 5335, Private in the Royal Defence Corps, formerly 24219 Northamptonshire Regiment. CWGC commemoration at Dustin (St Luke's) churchyard. Edited 16 July , 2022 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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