Edward Rowles 1866-1928. Did he serve in the Boer War. Help needed.

[Keith_history_buff]

On 04/07/2022 at 18:14, Allan1892 said:

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The Register is an excellent go-to datasource for personnel who served in the Boer War. This secondary resource records the medal entitlement, based upon the campaign medal rolls. If there are further details, such as a service record, or being recorded as a casualty, it will be recorded here. He has an Imperial Yeomanry service record, archive reference WO 128/130 and appears on the QSA medal roll archive reference WO 100/129

If he had a KSA medal, then he would have it recorded in his entry on The Register. I do not believe that he served long enough to meet the criteria. It amazes me that the same question "Did he get a KSA?" is routinely trotted out on this thread. What have you done to determine the conditions for this medal, and can you demonstrate that he meets said criteria?

The finer details of Boer War campaign medals ought not be spun out on this forum, as it does not directly relate to what was taking place from 1914 to 1918.

[Keith_history_buff]

With a view to getting some precision on his WW1 service:

8 Oct 1915  Enlists in Army Service Corps

26 Oct 1915 Disembarks at Calais, eligible for 1914-15 Star
Source: secondary source of Jack Clegg Marine medal roll via Fold3/FWR
Source: primary source of medal index card for E Rowles WO 372/17/108893
Source: primary source of medal roll for E Rowles, Army Service Corps WO 329/2894

2 Feb 1917 Compulsory transfer to RMLC, Deal/9604/S
Source: secondary source of Jack Clegg Marine medal roll via Fold3/FWR
Source: primary source of register of service for Edward Rowles, ADM 159/123/1349
Source: primary source of Imperial Yeomanry file at Chelsea for Edward Rowles, WO 128/130

 

WW1 service means he is
eligible for British War Medal and Victory Medal to be issued by the Admiralty
Source: secondary source of Jack Clegg Marine medal roll via Fold3/FWR
Source: primary source of medal roll for E Rowles, Royal Marines other ranks ADM 170/171
 

eligible for 1914-15 Star to be issued by the War Office
Source: secondary source of Jack Clegg Marine medal roll via Fold3/FWR
Source: primary source of medal index card for E Rowles WO 372/17/108893
Source: primary source of medal roll for E Rowles, Army Service Corps WO 329/2894

 

March 1919 Continuation of service, now renumbered as Deal/1349/N
Source: secondary source of Jack Clegg Marine medal roll via Fold3/FWR
Source: primary source of register of service for Edward Rowles, ADM 159/123/1349

10 January 1920 Discharged from the Royal Marine Labour Corps (New)
Source: primary source of register of service for Edward Rowles, ADM 159/123/1349
Source: primary source of Imperial Yeomanry file at Chelsea for Edward Rowles, WO 128/130

EDIT:

Further debate is continued on a different forum
https://www.angloboerwar.com/forum/2-introductions/32914-edward-rowles-kings-medal#94478

For completeness, a quick recap of his service prior to WW1

 

20 Nov 1888
Enlists with the 4t^th Royal Dragoons, 3347. They serve at home during this time
Colour service: 5 years 224 days

 

1 Jul 1894
Early transfer to the Army Reserve, with his consent

 

18 Jan 1900
Recalled to army service with the 4th Royal Dragoons under special Army Order
Colour service: 305 days

3336 John Nolan is likewise recalled.
3350 Ernest Taylor is likewise recalled.
These men have surviving service records. Both went to South Africa, and served with other Dragoon regiments, getting a new service number as a consequence.

 

20 Nov 1900
Commences a year of emergency service with the 4th Royal Dragoons
Colour service: 1 year
There is nothing to suggest any service during 1900-1901 has involved Rowles going overseas

 

4 Jan 1902
Enlists at Dublin for Short Service in the Imperial Yeomanry, 38578
Colour service: 298 days

 

8 Dec 1903
Reenlists with the 4th Royal Dragoons, to serve 4 years in the Army Reserve Section D.

 

Accumulated colour service
5 years 224 days
305 days
1 year 
298 days

Edited 9 March by Keith_history_buff
Added a link to other forum, for completeness