michaelpcoyle Posted 8 June , 2022 Share Posted 8 June , 2022 Imperial War Museum's War Memorials Register Ref WMR2384 - Wallasey Grammar School WW1 & 2. Also Warmemorialsonline Ref WMO/120194 & WMO/120195. I think Wallasey Grammar closed in 2006 and that Kingsway Academy, which took over, closed in 2018. There is a possibility that Clare Mount 6th form (have been contacted) are now using the building but all of that leaves a big question over the current location of the war memorial. Anyone able to confirm the location? Grateful for any help. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 8 June , 2022 Share Posted 8 June , 2022 Michael, the building is still intact according to recent articles in the Wirral Globe and the Liverpool Echo. It is under the auspices of Wirral Council, it may be worth contacting them Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpcoyle Posted 8 June , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2022 Thanks for that David. Is that the Grammar School building, under the auspices of the Council? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 8 June , 2022 Share Posted 8 June , 2022 17 minutes ago, michaelpcoyle said: Is that the Grammar School building, under the auspices of the Council The article in the Echo from March 2022 refers to the Kingsway Academy building, here is a screenshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpcoyle Posted 8 June , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2022 Many thanks. Will pursue. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 8 June , 2022 Share Posted 8 June , 2022 This doesn't add very much, but the newspaper clipping attached shows that the memorial was originally sited inside the School (Wallasey News 6.12.1919) I also have a list of the names that were intended to be included if it is of interest. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 8 June , 2022 Share Posted 8 June , 2022 Will do, but I would suggest that you edit out your e-mail address. The moderators believe that it leads to unwanted spam! BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TullochArd Posted 9 June , 2022 Share Posted 9 June , 2022 An original chunk of the Wallasay Grammar School became Withensfield School and is now operating as Liscard Primary School on Withens Lane. What chunk remains and if it bears any relation to the former location or current location of the Memorials I do not know but a 2016 update on WarMemorialsOnline reports WW1 Memorial at Wallasey School, (at old address) Birket Avenue, Leasowe, CH46 1RU but as "memorial is clean and well cared for - no concerns." I'd give Liscard a call.....it's out there somewhere Michael. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpcoyle Posted 9 June , 2022 Author Share Posted 9 June , 2022 Thanks for that, will do. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpcoyle Posted 27 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 27 July , 2022 All is well with the Wallasey Grammar School Memorials. They are located at The Wallaseyans Club, in Wallasey. Thanks to all for all help. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 18 September Share Posted 18 September On 08/06/2022 at 22:05, BillyH said: I also have a list of the names that were intended to be included if it is of interest. Wallasey Grammar has come up in my database as one the schools on the fringes of the public school world. I have been compiling comparative statistics on grammar schools of various types, some of which were considered public schools in 1914 (by some measures at least) and others which were not. @BillyH Does this list by any chance give the ranks? If so, I'd be interested to know what proportion were commissioned. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 18 September Share Posted 18 September 21 minutes ago, Charles Fair said: I'd be interested to know what proportion were commissioned. Thank you. I cannot give you an explicit answer, but I have well over 100 names from six separate articles about Wallasey Grammar that were published in the local newspapers , many with ranks and regiments. The attached article gives some scale to the number of men involved. If you want all six articles then PM me with an e-mail address and I will send them to you. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 19 September Share Posted 19 September Thank you @BillyH DM to follow. I note that the listing of the memorial on the NIWM gives 112 names so they must have found a few more by the time it was installed. https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/2384 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TullochArd Posted 20 September Share Posted 20 September On 18/09/2023 at 21:53, Charles Fair said: I have been compiling comparative statistics on grammar schools of various types, some of which were considered public schools in 1914 (by some measures at least) and others which were not. I've got a fair bit on my local grammar school, Newchurch Grammar School, Rossendale, Lancashire. I have the breakdown of the 37 fatalities and could provide the detail by p.m. should it be of use. If so, let me know how you want it presented. It will of little surprise that, as a school developed to support an industrial community the fatalities fall into three specific groups: sons of local professionals - commissioned, Individuals with a technical ability - RE/RN specialists and scholarship students - privates. Sadly the served and returned community is fragmentary and will be of no value to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 20 September Share Posted 20 September 1 hour ago, TullochArd said: I've got a fair bit on my local grammar school, Newchurch Grammar School, Rossendale, Lancashire. I have the breakdown of the 37 fatalities and could provide the detail by p.m. should it be of use. If so, let me know how you want it presented. It will of little surprise that, as a school developed to support an industrial community the fatalities fall into three specific groups: sons of local professionals - commissioned, Individuals with a technical ability - RE/RN specialists and scholarship students - privates. Sadly the served and returned community is fragmentary and will be of no value to you. Thank you, that would be most useful. I’m trying to compile stats on a range of grammar schools, from the big ones that by some measures certainly were public schools (Portsmouth) down to the more numerous small grammar schools in towns across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 20 September Share Posted 20 September 7 hours ago, TullochArd said: Newchurch Grammar School, Rossendale, Lancashire. I have the breakdown of the 37 fatalities and could provide the detail by p.m. should it be of use. All I need to know is: of the 37 fatalities, how many were commissioned into any service (including merchant navy)? In addition, do you have any idea of the following: Approximate number of boys on the school roll in 1914 Approximate number who served Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TullochArd Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) On 20/09/2023 at 21:03, Charles Fair said: All I need to know is: of the 37 fatalities, how many were commissioned into any service (including merchant navy)? In addition, do you have any idea of the following: Approximate number of boys on the school roll in 1914 Approximate number who served Many thanks Of the 37 fatalities 12 are commissioned and 25 are ORs. In 1913 the school moved location and changed name to Bacup and Rawtenstall Secondary School and in 1918 there were 266 pupils which is recorded as "fifty more than at the beginning of the war." I can only guess Newchurch Grammar School was smaller. Please note these figures include an unknown number of girls. I'm not at all optimistic about producing anything worthwhile regarding the second bullet point Edited 13 hours ago by TullochArd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 9 hours ago, TullochArd said: Of the 37 fatalities 12 are commissioned and 25 are ORs. In 1913 the school moved location and changed name to Bacup and Rawtenstall Secondary School and in 1918 there were 266 pupils which is recorded as "fifty more than at the beginning of the war." I can only guess Newchurch Grammar School was smaller. Please note these figures include an unknown number of girls. I'm not at all optimistic about producing anything worthwhile regarding the second bullet point Many thanks @TullochArd, that's terrific. The 32% commissioned is typical of small grammar schools, most of which are in the range of 30-40% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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