1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 I have my grandfather's medal attached. From memory and anecdote, he was from the Middleborough area and worked on the docks. He went to war and was wounded by shrapnel, luckily, and returned home. He lived in Grove Hill, Middlesbrough at 47 Meadowfield Avenue. He was buried at a cemetery nearby as my grandma used to go to attend his grave on foot. I estimate he was born around 1895. I think he died around 1949. Can anyone help find his military records? I am his grandson aged 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 12 January , 2021 Admin Share Posted 12 January , 2021 Welcome to the forum. I've removed your email address from public view as spammers can harvest them. A good place to start your research is to read the How To Research A Soldier on the Long Long Trail website. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpi Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 Christian name, George? Died 1950, aged 55? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 12 January , 2021 Admin Share Posted 12 January , 2021 He should also have the War and Victory Medal as well as the 1915 star as illustrated. Entered a theatre of war (France) 21/7/15. Also awarded the Silver War Badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 Yes George and 1950 sounds right. Thanks for your insight. I did try the long long trail. I've tried all kinds of searches. I would be very grateful to hear more if you have it. Regards, That's brilliant. May I know how you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 I found this which I assume is the war and victory medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 43 minutes ago, michaelpi said: Christian name, George? Died 1950, aged 55? How did you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 His number was S 761- medal card at the National Archives here: Medal card of Miller, George Corps: Rifle Brigade Regiment No: S/761 ... | The National Archives Care, not to be confused with another Miller with the number 1761 of the Somerset Yeomanry. MaxD, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 (edited) Hi 1953bloke, A very warm welcome to GWF. There are three pension records at the Western Front Association / Fold3 for George Miller S/1761, Rifle Brigade - Middlesborough addresses = 97 Stockton St [or Stockton Stanley? ] [1918] and 127 Essex Street [1922] Gun shot wound left leg [GSW can include shrapnel/shell wound] and loss of left index finger :-) M Edited 12 January , 2021 by Matlock1418 clarify unit and add address dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 Just now, MaxD said: His number was S 761- medal card at the National Archives here: Medal card of Miller, George Corps: Rifle Brigade Regiment No: S/761 ... | The National Archives Care, not to be confused with another Miller with the number 1761 of the Somerset Yeomanry. MaxD, Amazing. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Milner Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 (edited) According his Silver War Badge, no 338968, record on Find My Past George Miller S/1761 served with the 10th Battalion The Rifle Brigade, they were attached to the 59th Brigade, 20th (Light) Division, he was discharged on 5 March 1918 iaw Army Order 2B114/08/1917, I don't know what the AO refers to. John Edited 12 January , 2021 by John Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 15 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said: Hi 1953bloke, A very warm welcome to GWF. There are three pension records at the Western Front Association / Fold3 for George Miller S/1761, Rifle Brigade - Middlesborough addresses = 97 Stockton St [or Stockton Stanley?] and 127 Essex Street Gun shot wound left leg [GSW can include shrapnel/shell wound] and loss of left index finger :-) M Thank you for this information. I never met Private Miller so not sure about his missing finger. I have always been grateful for his injury and discharge as my father was born in 1921! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 1 hour ago, 1953bloke said: 28 minutes ago, 1953bloke said: I found this which I assume is the war and victory medal. 11 minutes ago, 1953bloke said: His number was S 761- medal card at the National Archives here: Medal card of Miller, George Corps: Rifle Brigade Regiment No: S/761 ... | The National Archives You have posted photos his 1914-15 Star and British War Medal. I hope you have his Victory Medal too - the one with the multi-colour 'rainbow' ribbon 12 minutes ago, John Milner said: According his Silver War Badge, no 338968, record on Find My Past George Miller S/1761 served with the 10th Battalion The Rifle Brigade As per his MIC he entered his first theatre of war 21.7.1915 Thus you may be/probably will be interested to look at his battalion's War Diary [typically only recorded in a ToW], July 1915 onwards - you are unlikely to find him by name but will give you an idea of what went on back then. Freely downloadable from the National Archives [after a free registration - can all be done as a single exercise] https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353107 :-) M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpi Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 1 hour ago, 1953bloke said: How did you know this? I guessed. By using the website FreeBMD and searching for deaths of a Miller, G, in Middlesborough, between 1949 and 1951. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 17 minutes ago, John Milner said: According his Silver War Badge, no 338968, record on Find My Past George Miller S/1761 served with the 10th Battalion The Rifle Brigade, they were attached to the 59th Brigade, 20th (Light) Division, he was discharged on 5 March 1917 iaw Army Order 2B114/08/1917, I don't know what the AO refers to. John Many thanks. I think the confusion is in the number on the medal. It is S-/ 971 as Max D said above. I guess they didn't have a forward slash stamp. 3 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said: You have posted photos his 1914-15 Star and British War Medal. I hope you have his Victory Medal too - the one with the multi-colour 'rainbow' ribbon As per his MIC he entered his first theatre of war 21.7.1915 Thus you may be/probably will be interested to look at his battalion's War Diary [typically only recorded in a ToW], July 1915 onwards - you are unlikely to find him by name but will give you an idea of what went on back then. Freely downloadable from the National Archives [after a free registration - can all be done as a single exercise] https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7353107 :-) M You are brilliant. Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 2 minutes ago, 1953bloke said: I think the confusion is in the number on the medal. It is S-/ 971 The 1914-15 Star certainly looks like S-1761 What is on the rim of the BWM? [and VM?] :-) M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 12 January , 2021 Admin Share Posted 12 January , 2021 https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/how-to-research-a-soldier/campaign-medal-records/the-british-campaign-medals-for-the-great-war/ Here are the medals plus the correct ribbons for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Michelle Young said: Here are the medals plus the correct ribbons for them As per Michelle. Forgot to mention this [too busy finding you the WD!!] - his Star's ribbon is wrong and his BWM appears to have a WW2 1939-45 War Medal ribbon showing with it. :-) M Edited 12 January , 2021 by Matlock1418 typo & expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 12 minutes ago, michaelpi said: I guessed. By using the website FreeBMD and searching for deaths of a Miller, G, in Middlesborough, between 1949 and 1951. Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 Wounded in action 3/9/16, this was the attack by the 20th Division on Guillemont. Listed as missing by the Battalion's C.O. on 14/9/16 Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 57 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said: The 1914-15 Star certainly looks like S-1761 What is on the rim of the BWM? [and VM?] :-) M I think so too but it looks like its a mistake as all the other links point to 761. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 12 January , 2021 Share Posted 12 January , 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1953bloke said: I think so too but it looks like its a mistake as all the other links point to 761. Got to query your suggestion of 761. The National Archives have currently incorrectly transcribed his MIC as S/761 - looking at the MIC there, and at especially on Ancestry, to me clearly shows S1761 - the S is stepped up from the 1761 The Medal Roll for the 1914-15 also shows S1761 The Medal Roll for the BWM & VM also shows S/1761 Images courtesy of Ancestry - With thanks = What is on the rim of the BWM? [and VM?] All three pension records also clearly indicate S/1761 = Which other links/records are you looking at? :-) M Edited 12 January , 2021 by Matlock1418 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 Many thanks to all for pursuing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953bloke Posted 12 January , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 January , 2021 4 hours ago, Matlock1418 said: Got to query your suggestion of 761. The National Archives have currently incorrectly transcribed his MIC as S/761 - looking at the MIC there, and at especially on Ancestry, to me clearly shows S1761 - the S is stepped up from the 1761 The Medal Roll for the 1914-15 also shows S1761 The Medal Roll for the BWM & VM also shows S/1761 Images courtesy of Ancestry - With thanks = What is on the rim of the BWM? [and VM?] All three pension records also clearly indicate S/1761 = Which other links/records are you looking at? :-) M Thank you for helping. I don't have the Victory Medal. This is so interesting and a poignant reminder of what ordinary men endured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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