Scottman Posted 24 October , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 October , 2020 Hello Brian , many thanks , yes with the virus getting stronger it will be a long time before the libraries and record offices are open , Living in Manchester I need to visit the record office in Liverpool Central Library , but I cannot see when that will be , regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 24 October , 2020 Share Posted 24 October , 2020 Hi Alan, 8 hours ago, brianmorris547 said: There is a Servive Record for 7825 Robert Henry Turner. He enlisted into the 5th Bn South Lancs in 1908 and there are a number of re engagement forms up to 1913 which show he was still with 5 South Lancs number 147. His obligation to serve outside the UK, signed I think 13/11/1914, shows 7825 WLD RE and there is a letter from him in the file which reads, "At the outbreak of war I was transferred to WLD RE". There are some papers for another 5/South Lancs man. They show that he (Harold Davies) joined the West Lancs Division Signal Company from them on 5.11.1914 where he was renumbered to 7838, then subsequently renumbered again to 432328. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 25 October , 2020 Share Posted 25 October , 2020 Thanks Chris I only checked those names in the Sigs Co WD on 30/03/1916 who were Time Expired. I also checked the LNL names on the RE Medal Rolls i.e. from 432344 to 432360, including their previous RE numbers and LNL numbers, on FMP. No Service or Pension records other than Richard Warr. Two more MMs under RE 7856 Sydney Bewicke and 7859 Arthur Haslam both 1916 and three hospital admissions which, from length of service, indicate enlistment in 1913. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted 25 October , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2020 Many thanks for all the information you sent me Brian and Chris , very much appreciated Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 25 October , 2020 Share Posted 25 October , 2020 Alan When the library re opens I will check to see if there is anything in the papers for Robert Hodgkinson MM. There might be a photo and biography if he was from Bolton. The other MMs were Frederick Silby 432344 LG 15/09/1919, Sydney Bewicke 432346 LG 16/11/1916 as 7856, Arthur Haslam LG 06/09/1916 as 7859 and Joseph King 432353 LG 29/08/1917. Were they originally 5 LNL (like Richard Warr 432359) they will most likely be from Bolton and might be mentioned in the papers. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted 25 October , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2020 Many thanks Brian , That is the only thing I don't know where he was from with just having Robert as his Christian name , I cannot check the 1911 census which would give me a clue where he was from , regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted 25 October , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2020 Hi Brian , I just checked the 1911 census and found a Robert Hodkinson born in Bolton in 1891 and was 20 in 1911 , I could not view the full page but just the basic details regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 25 October , 2020 Share Posted 25 October , 2020 (edited) Were the spellings Hodkinson and Hodgkinson interchangeable within a family? Hodgkinson on MM? The above Robert Hodkinson was born in Bolton 28 November 1890, and baptised at St. George the Martyr Church, Bolton on 11 March 1891 (image off Ancestry). Same Hodkinson family at 31 Venice Street, Bolton in 1891. Robert 4 months old. The family were living at 77 Venice Street, Bolton in 1901 (surname spelt Hodgkinson - probably by the census taker). Parents: Robert (45) & Mary (43), children: John (20), Clara (19), Robert (10), Harry (5) & Annie (6mths). Father Robert a 'Colliery Hewer'. Family living at 297, Tylderley Road, Atherton in 1911. Robert aged 20, 'coal miner, stationary engine, below ground'. Robert Hodkinson and his father were living at 284, Tyldesley Road, Atherton in 1939 (b. 28 Nov 1890). Robert d.1970 at Atherton. Robert's baptismal entry off Ancestry: Edited 25 October , 2020 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted 25 October , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2020 Many thanks Ivor , yes I could have made a error in spelling his name in some of my post's with leaving the g out of his surname , I will do another search with the g in his name regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 25 October , 2020 Share Posted 25 October , 2020 (edited) If we take the spelling to be Hodgkinson it should reduce the search. If you edit your first post you can amend the spelling on the thread title. Ivor Like this possible candidate at 47 Rise Street, Bolton in 1891 & 1901. Born Q3 1882 in Bolton. This 1901 census image off Ancestry: Edited 25 October , 2020 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted 25 October , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 October , 2020 I am not to sure how to edit the spelling as I have only just joined the Great War Forum , thanks for all your help Ivor regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 25 October , 2020 Share Posted 25 October , 2020 Hi Alan, 3 minutes ago, Scottman said: I am not to sure how to edit the spelling If you go to your opening post you can see three dots at the top right hand side of the screen. Click on those and you should get: Click on Edit, and you should get a screen something like this: Edit/amend the title, then click on the 'Edit Topic' button at the bottom of the screen. If you wanted to edit or delete any of your subsequent posts, go to the one that you want to change, and click on the 3 dots there. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lancashire Fusilier by Proxy Posted 31 October , 2020 Share Posted 31 October , 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 18:04, Scottman said: I am trying to research the Military Medal awarded to 774 Spr R Hodgkinson 55th W / Lanc D S Coy R E T F Hi, although it will not help you to specific knowledge of the acts that led to Spr R Hodgkinson's MM, are you aware that Thomas Hope Floyd's At Ypres with Best Dunkley describes the situation in which the 55th Division found themselves in at about the time the MM was awarded, albeit from the point of view of another Battalion (2/5th Lancashire Fusiliers)? I have also recently acquired, but not yet read, the Rev J.O. Coop's The Story of the 55th (West Lancashire) Division. My grandfather, who mentions Rev J.O Coop, was also in the 55th Division, having been in the 2/5th Lancashire Fusiliers from January 1916 until he was wounded in September 1916 (and coincidentally was at the same school as Thomas Flloyd), and also gives in his diary an account of the experiences of the 55th Division which may have been shared by Spr Hodgkinson during that period, assuming that Spr Hodgkinson had transferred to the Divisional Signals in or about November 1914 - see the website in my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottman Posted 1 November , 2020 Author Share Posted 1 November , 2020 Many thanks , I did have a copy of ' At Ypres with Best Dunkley ' many years ago , I will buy a copy and will be interesting to read it regarding The Third Battle of Ypres , once again many thanks Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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