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"Colditz" 1972-74 TV series: Lt Col Preston's WWI medals

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Moonraker

I've just started watching the 1972-74 TV series "Colditz" on YouTube. In the fourth episode, Lt Col John Preston, a new Senior British Officer, arrives and is immediately met with scepticism and suspicion by the other British officers. His spick-and-span appearance does not help and he appears to be emotionless and rigid. There are some snobbish remarks about his being a Territorial.

 

As he unbuttons his greatcoat after getting out of his transport, the camera focuses on his WWI medal ribbons which seem impressive:

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What medals do the ribbons represent?

 

I would have thought that on first sight they would have earned him some credit and respect from the junior officers.

 

I do, of course, appreciate that this was TV and dramatic tensions had to be introduced. (The characters are fictional, but some have similarities with actual PoWs.)

 

Moonraker

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Rob B

Well going left to right we have the British war medal, Victory medal followed by what looks to be a Military Cross which is in the wrong place (should be at the front) and finally a territorial decoration for 12 years service.. 

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rolt968
2 minutes ago, Rob B said:

Well going left to right we have the British war medal, Victory medal followed by what looks to be a Military Cross which is in the wrong place (should be at the front) and finally a territorial decoration for 12 years service.. 

Perhaps they were right to be suspicious if his medal ribbons were in the wrong order?

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Uncle George

They, the producers and actors, would surely know the right order, considering their generation and presumed war service/national service. Anyway, it doesn’t look like an MC in the attached (which is from here 

http://watchesinmovies.info/tv/colditz-1972-1974/)

 

 

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Rob B

Thanks, that picture sorts out one of my concerns the third medal is not an MC, but a 1937 Coronation medal.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Is the post on the watches forum by 'our' biffo I wonder?

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Steven Broomfield
4 hours ago, Moonraker said:

There are some snobbish remarks about his being a Territorial.

 

Moonraker

 

Obviously a Rotter and a Cad. Probably wore brown shoes in Town.

2 hours ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said:

Is the post on the watches forum by 'our' biffo I wonder?

 

You think there might be more?:unsure:

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voltaire60

  I seem to remember this officer  occasionally spoke about his Great War service in the  trenches. Watch out for  clues- I think the trick to daytime television is to stay awake.

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voltaire60

Anyone want to have a go at the medal ribbons for Major General Clive Wynne-Candy while we are at it? 

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voltaire60

Hmm-Appears to be merely a Colonel in the Home Guard.

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Steven Broomfield

Well, obviously VC, QSA, KSA and a GW trio for starters.

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Moonraker
51 minutes ago, voltaire60 said:

Hmm-Appears to be merely a Colonel in the Home Guard.


The film follows  Wynne-Candy from when he is an idealistic young officer returned on leave from the Boer War through to his retirement as a major-general in the Regular Army and his service as an anachronistic and obdurate colonel in the Home Guard.  One of the finest films ever made:


The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp


Watch it here

 

I have a feeling that we may be heading towards discussing Corporal Jones' medals in "Dad's Army" - which we did 14 years ago

 

here

 

Moonraker

 

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Steven Broomfield

Givn his career, a CMG and a George VI Coronation medal would be expected.

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CorporalPunishment
20 hours ago, voltaire60 said:

Anyone want to have a go at the medal ribbons for Major General Clive Wynne-Candy while we are at it? 

VC, CB, DSO, QSAM, KSAM, WW1 Trio, GvR Coronation Medal and two puzzlers.  Pete.

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voltaire60
1 hour ago, CorporalPunishment said:

VC, CB, DSO, QSAM, KSAM, WW1 Trio, GvR Coronation Medal and two puzzlers.  Pete.

 

  Wow!!   You must have already been to Specsavers!!

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Moonraker

Another photo:

 

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CorporalPunishment
2 hours ago, voltaire60 said:

 

  Wow!!   You must have already been to Specsavers!!

:D

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CorporalPunishment
2 hours ago, Moonraker said:

Another photo:

 

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Those last two ribbons are baffling me. Foreign maybe.   Pete.

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CorporalPunishment
12 hours ago, Uncle George said:

The ribbon next to the George V Coronation medal may be the Russian Order of St Anna: 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Anna

 

It was awarded to, for example, Sir John Asser for his First war service:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Asser

I think you could well be right there, it certainly looks like it. The last ribbon, the red and black one, could be that of the Yser Medal, a Belgian award for the Battle of the Yser in October 1914.  Pete.

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