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TEW

Could M.N.O.L.H. be a hospital?

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TEW

This man, 7787 Whittney wounded near Mametz 1/7/1916 shows quite a good medical evacuation route from (probably) Minden Post to the HS Jan Breydel 4/7/16, then home.

The remarks column for this last entry also has the initials MNOLH (99% sure of that). Given the way the other units are given in the remarks column I think that MNOLH is where he went after the Jan Breydel arrived.

 

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Image sourced from FMP.

 

It may not be a hospital of course so any other offerings accepted. I have looked through TLLT list of UK hospitals and not seeing an obvious candidate.

He has a raft of WO363 records on FMP, 8 hits in all. Been through them and not seen a UK hospital named.

 

Don't want to influence opinion but he was from Manchester and with the Manchesters 1/7/16, GSW Thigh so I was thinking

Manchester

N? North?

Orthopedic

L?

Hospital

 

Thanks

TEW

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Jim Strawbridge

........ of left hand?

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TEW

Thanks Jim, Injury is GSW L Thigh. It may not be hospital or anything we'll ever discover!

Thanks Though

TEW

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voltaire60

It would take a few pints and a squint but could it possibly be the Princess Louise Military Orthopaedic Hospital, which was at Brighton?

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Jrmh
Posted (edited)

The line above it looks like W.O.List.H. A.562.

 

War Office List H?

Edited by Jrmh

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TEW

I'm liking the orthopedic connection, best option so far.

The man has about 5 numbers, FMP returns a variety of service files for him depending which number I use. Most just duplicate the records. Don't think List HA 562 exists, at least not on FMP.

Thanks

TEW

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Neil Mackenzie
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I think you are right - I am wondering if it is some form of 'Manchester North Orthopaedic Limb Hospital'. There was a specialist hospital set up on Moss Side.

 

 

https://rusholmearchive.org/rusholme-military-hospitals-1914-1918

 

Neil

Edited by Neil Mackenzie

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Gardenerbill

I'm not convinced by Manchester North, it's normal the other way around, for example South Manchester Hospitals Trust.

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TEW

It may depend how the original info arrived and how the clerk decided to abbreviate it. The link from Neil shows a Newbery hospital connected to Rusholme.

Think I may have to plough through all of his service records just in case.

Thanks

TEW

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

I can't imagine that anywhere would have such a specialised hospital as an " Orthopaedic Limb Hospital". That would imply that somewhere else had an " Orthopaedic Non-Limb Hospital".

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charlie962

MNOLH =

Maybe Not On List of Hospitals ??

 

Had a good search but no results.

Charlie

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DavidOwen

Man Now On Leave (at) Home?

 

Not been able to find any hospitals that may match..... yet....

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seaJane

Just wondering if it isn't " --IN O.L.H."

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Keith Brannen

I don't see a period between the M and the N, like you see for all the other letters, so:

MN. O. L. H.

So, could it be a short form for Manchester? 

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TEW

SeaJane's and Keiths ' all seem viable options to me. Will be looking through records again later and re-post.

Thanks

TEW

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Gardenerbill

Could it be Minor Injury On Left Hand?

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
Posted (edited)

It's not common to abbreviate short joiny words like 'on' or 'of', although I can think of some modern medical acronyms like 'FOOSH' (Fall/fell on/onto outstretched hand).

'#NOF' (Fractured Neck of Femur).

 

Usually it's just GSW L Thigh, not GSW O L Thigh.

Edited by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

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TEW

Been looking through his files. Frustrating that all the Hospital sheets are not marked up.

Two things so far;

  1. Sheet I put up in post#1 has '21 MR' top left, the M looks different to the MNOLH. Can't make my mind up if it's all in the same hand though.
  2. This sheet for furlough 27/7/1916 is signed A W (or A O) Newton, Capt. Placing of entries a bit odd but could be Officer in Charge of Hospital. Not sure that a Capt would be in charge, perhaps he signed it for the officer in charge. Home address for Whittney is Chilton on Medlock.
    Same sheet has a very faint stamp top left. Been squinting for a while and see Hospital - Section? - Dudley - Birmingham.

TEW

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TEW

Having looked through all the records and not seen a reference to this 'hospital' I think that may be the end of this one. Although I have just noticed that his NOK's home address was in Rusholme Rd, Manchester. Bit of a coincidence considering Neil's post#7.

TEW

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TEW

Oh!!!

 

Looks like Jrmh had it correct in post#5!

 

Another example;

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Still not sure if it's supposed to be MN.O.List.H. Doesn't look like WO List H to me. Man on List HA 614?

TEW

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PhilB

Since it refers to his passage by sea on the SS Jan Breydel, could it be "Merchant Navy O List?

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TEW

From what I can see the Jan Breydel was a Hospital Ship from at least 1915. Just found an AIF evacuated to UK per HS Jan Breydel Aug 1916. No diary for July 1916.

TEW

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charlie962

Keep going Tew, what tenacity!

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TEW

Perhaps I should give it up! I was trying to find which UK hospital this man went to and therefore saw the H as Hospital. Now it's proved not to be (plus I think his hospital was in Birmingham). Time to put it to bed?

 

Unless I find another example  :o

TEW

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daggers

Merchant Navy was not a term used at that period, coming in post war.  Merchant or Mercantile Marine would be the usual.

D

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