Jump to content
Free downloads from TNA ×
The Great War (1914-1918) Forum

Remembered Today:

Could M.N.O.L.H. be a hospital?


TEW

Recommended Posts

This man, 7787 Whittney wounded near Mametz 1/7/1916 shows quite a good medical evacuation route from (probably) Minden Post to the HS Jan Breydel 4/7/16, then home.

The remarks column for this last entry also has the initials MNOLH (99% sure of that). Given the way the other units are given in the remarks column I think that MNOLH is where he went after the Jan Breydel arrived.

 

whittney.jpg.7076c27de4b8dff27ece9d75f78df6b6.jpg

Image sourced from FMP.

 

It may not be a hospital of course so any other offerings accepted. I have looked through TLLT list of UK hospitals and not seeing an obvious candidate.

He has a raft of WO363 records on FMP, 8 hits in all. Been through them and not seen a UK hospital named.

 

Don't want to influence opinion but he was from Manchester and with the Manchesters 1/7/16, GSW Thigh so I was thinking

Manchester

N? North?

Orthopedic

L?

Hospital

 

Thanks

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks Jim, Injury is GSW L Thigh. It may not be hospital or anything we'll ever discover!

Thanks Though

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It would take a few pints and a squint but could it possibly be the Princess Louise Military Orthopaedic Hospital, which was at Brighton?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The line above it looks like W.O.List.H. A.562.

 

War Office List H?

Edited by Jrmh
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm liking the orthopedic connection, best option so far.

The man has about 5 numbers, FMP returns a variety of service files for him depending which number I use. Most just duplicate the records. Don't think List HA 562 exists, at least not on FMP.

Thanks

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think you are right - I am wondering if it is some form of 'Manchester North Orthopaedic Limb Hospital'. There was a specialist hospital set up on Moss Side.

 

 

https://rusholmearchive.org/rusholme-military-hospitals-1914-1918

 

Neil

Edited by Neil Mackenzie
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not convinced by Manchester North, it's normal the other way around, for example South Manchester Hospitals Trust.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It may depend how the original info arrived and how the clerk decided to abbreviate it. The link from Neil shows a Newbery hospital connected to Rusholme.

Think I may have to plough through all of his service records just in case.

Thanks

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can't imagine that anywhere would have such a specialised hospital as an " Orthopaedic Limb Hospital". That would imply that somewhere else had an " Orthopaedic Non-Limb Hospital".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just wondering if it isn't " --IN O.L.H."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't see a period between the M and the N, like you see for all the other letters, so:

MN. O. L. H.

So, could it be a short form for Manchester? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

SeaJane's and Keiths ' all seem viable options to me. Will be looking through records again later and re-post.

Thanks

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's not common to abbreviate short joiny words like 'on' or 'of', although I can think of some modern medical acronyms like 'FOOSH' (Fall/fell on/onto outstretched hand).

'#NOF' (Fractured Neck of Femur).

 

Usually it's just GSW L Thigh, not GSW O L Thigh.

Edited by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Been looking through his files. Frustrating that all the Hospital sheets are not marked up.

Two things so far;

  1. Sheet I put up in post#1 has '21 MR' top left, the M looks different to the MNOLH. Can't make my mind up if it's all in the same hand though.
  2. This sheet for furlough 27/7/1916 is signed A W (or A O) Newton, Capt. Placing of entries a bit odd but could be Officer in Charge of Hospital. Not sure that a Capt would be in charge, perhaps he signed it for the officer in charge. Home address for Whittney is Chilton on Medlock.
    Same sheet has a very faint stamp top left. Been squinting for a while and see Hospital - Section? - Dudley - Birmingham.

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Having looked through all the records and not seen a reference to this 'hospital' I think that may be the end of this one. Although I have just noticed that his NOK's home address was in Rusholme Rd, Manchester. Bit of a coincidence considering Neil's post#7.

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Oh!!!

 

Looks like Jrmh had it correct in post#5!

 

Another example;

kirkham.jpg.de1a5fae3fe1f240f2cb21c4d180a8ff.jpg

 

Still not sure if it's supposed to be MN.O.List.H. Doesn't look like WO List H to me. Man on List HA 614?

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Since it refers to his passage by sea on the SS Jan Breydel, could it be "Merchant Navy O List?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From what I can see the Jan Breydel was a Hospital Ship from at least 1915. Just found an AIF evacuated to UK per HS Jan Breydel Aug 1916. No diary for July 1916.

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Perhaps I should give it up! I was trying to find which UK hospital this man went to and therefore saw the H as Hospital. Now it's proved not to be (plus I think his hospital was in Birmingham). Time to put it to bed?

 

Unless I find another example  :o

TEW

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Merchant Navy was not a term used at that period, coming in post war.  Merchant or Mercantile Marine would be the usual.

D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...