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Cavalry regiments wearing Brodricks caps

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max7474

The headdress choices of various cavalry regts up to and into WW1 are varied and there are no hard and fast rules.  Like many regts the cavalry do not seem to have takent o the Brodrick cap and many clung on to the FSC and even pill box hats.

 

From posts on this forum there is photographic evidence of the 13th Hussars and the 11th Hussars (who rather oddly seem to been late to convert to the hat but also late to replace it). 

 

From other sites I know that the 17th Lancers also wore it.  Are there any other cavalry regts recorded as wearing it?

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HERITAGE PLUS

Royal Scots Greys

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Toby Brayley

7 DG , it was a "universal forage cap" and worn by most.. but photographic evidence is rare! 

 

 

 

 

 

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One of my favourites. 17th Lancer.

 

 

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Toby Brayley

21st (E of I) Lancers.  Would like a better study of their Brodrick. 

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The all white with green "peak" of the 13th Hussars. Must have been a nightmare to keep clean. 

 

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Toby Brayley

8th Hussars. Covered Brodrick. From a miniscule glass slide. This image came out beautifully, a wondeful demonstration of that Edwardian transitional era. 

 

 

 

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11th Hussars , Dublin c1904. A rather fantastic all Crimson example. 

 

 

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Toby Brayley

1st KDG. 

 

 

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HERITAGE PLUS

Fantastic photos Toby. Thanks for posting.

 

Dave

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1 minute ago, HERITAGE PLUS said:

Fantastic photos Toby. Thanks for posting.

 

Dave

 

Most welcome Dave, the Brodrick is a particular passion of mime ! 

 

I had not seen the Scots Greys example before so thank you. 

 

The Military Police (MFP and MMP) had a beautiful all red example. Too good not to share. This is a 1903 sealed pattern example. 

 

 

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I also have a numbered Royal Artillery  example. Probably one of the rarest items of British headgear. 

 

 

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FROGSMILE

The CMP sergeant has an extra line of braid tracing the edge of the curved flap behind the badge.  Those in first class uniform (staff sergeants and WOs) had two lines following the same course.

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We believe that it was still the blue braid on a red backing the same cloth as the hat itself. Sadly, the only two known examples, this one and one held by the IWM, are both missing theirs.  

 

Here is one of the only shots of the SNCOs Brodrick I have ever seen, sadly not mine!

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33 minutes ago, Toby Brayley said:

I had not seen the Scots Greys example before so thank you. 

 

I have an interests in Bands hence this one.

 

Dave

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FROGSMILE

That is correct, he is the ‘Loyals’ sergeant instructor of musketry, who although a second class staff sergeant had the special privilege, along with the sergeant drummer (aka drum major) to wear First Class clothing, including the cap with two lines of braid.

 

I concur that the CMP braid seems to be blue.

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New arrival, perfect for this thread. 8th Hussars with an interesting mix of S.D Caps (they are not the covered Brodrick) and Brodricks, c1906.  Interesting to note that it was worn at the same time as the S.D cap, but obviously in different dress states. First time I have seen shoulder twists on the cavalry frock. 

 

 

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Alan24

I have this postcard of the Hampshire Carabiniers Imperial Yeomanry on 1907 summer camp.

The men are wearing peak caps and holding the Brodrick.

 

The writer says "Just falling in for the issue of the new peak cap."

 

Postmark: May 19th 1907. 

Alan.

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Just now, Alan24 said:

 

The men are wearing peak caps and holding the Brodrick.

 

Alan.

 

 

Cracking photo Alan, but that is the Pill Box style forage cap not the Brodick. I do not believe any Yeomanry units were unlucky (or lucky) enough to wear it. 

 

From http://www.uniformology.com

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Alan24

Thanks for the correction Toby.

 

Always ready to learn.

 

Regards

 

Alan.

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1 hour ago, Alan24 said:

 

 

 

Thank you for posting it is a wondeful image and a great photograph of the H.C.Y Shoulder title. It would have a welcome home in the below thread! 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Toby Brayley said:

 

Thank you for posting it is a wondeful image and a great photograph of the H.C.Y Shoulder title.

 

 

Toby, thanks for the comment. If you pm me an email I'll let you have a higher res image for your personal use.

 

Regards 

Alan. 

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elliot#1

Sadly rather faded, but a fantastic image nevertheless.Hard to tell as the cap badge isn't clear, but I'm fairly certain it's 8th Hussars.

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2 hours ago, elliot#1 said:

Sadly rather faded, but a fantastic image nevertheless.

 

Hope this helps

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