max7474 Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 (edited) The headdress choices of various cavalry regts up to and into WW1 are varied and there are no hard and fast rules. Like many regts the cavalry do not seem to have takent o the Brodrick cap and many clung on to the FSC and even pill box hats. From posts on this forum there is photographic evidence of the 13th Hussars and the 11th Hussars (who rather oddly seem to been late to convert to the hat but also late to replace it). From other sites I know that the 17th Lancers also wore it. Are there any other cavalry regts recorded as wearing it? Edited 4 January , 2019 by max7474 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 Royal Scots Greys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 7 DG , it was a "universal forage cap" and worn by most.. but photographic evidence is rare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 (edited) One of my favourites. 17th Lancer. Edited 4 January , 2019 by Toby Brayley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 21st (E of I) Lancers. Would like a better study of their Brodrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 (edited) The all white with blue "patch" of the 13th Hussars. Must have been a nightmare to keep clean. Edited 21 March , 2019 by Toby Brayley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 (edited) 8th Hussars. Covered Brodrick. From a miniscule glass slide. This image came out beautifully, a wondeful demonstration of that Edwardian transitional era. Edited 4 January , 2019 by Toby Brayley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 11th Hussars , Dublin c1904. A rather fantastic all Crimson example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 1st KDG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 Fantastic photos Toby. Thanks for posting. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 1 minute ago, HERITAGE PLUS said: Fantastic photos Toby. Thanks for posting. Dave Most welcome Dave, the Brodrick is a particular passion of mime ! I had not seen the Scots Greys example before so thank you. The Military Police (MFP and MMP) had a beautiful all red example. Too good not to share. This is a 1903 sealed pattern example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 I also have a numbered Royal Artillery example. Probably one of the rarest items of British headgear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 (edited) The CMP sergeant has an extra line of braid tracing the edge of the curved flap behind the badge. Those in first class uniform (staff sergeants and WOs) had two lines following the same course. Edited 4 January , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 We believe that it was still the blue braid on a red backing the same cloth as the hat itself. Sadly, the only two known examples, this one and one held by the IWM, are both missing theirs. Here is one of the only shots of the SNCOs Brodrick I have ever seen, sadly not mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 33 minutes ago, Toby Brayley said: I had not seen the Scots Greys example before so thank you. I have an interests in Bands hence this one. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 4 January , 2019 Share Posted 4 January , 2019 (edited) That is correct, he is the ‘Loyals’ sergeant instructor of musketry, who although a second class staff sergeant had the special privilege, along with the sergeant drummer (aka drum major) to wear First Class clothing, including the cap with two lines of braid. I concur that the CMP braid seems to be blue. Edited 4 January , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max7474 Posted 4 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 January , 2019 Thank you. I suspect that not all were so keen: https://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/20thhussars1905.htm This photo was taken no earlier than 1904 as that was when the regt moved from Brighton from Egypt and the pill box cap is still being worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 New arrival, perfect for this thread. 8th Hussars with an interesting mix of S.D Caps (they are not the covered Brodrick) and Brodricks, c1906. Interesting to note that it was worn at the same time as the S.D cap, but obviously in different dress states. First time I have seen shoulder twists on the cavalry frock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 I have this postcard of the Hampshire Carabiniers Imperial Yeomanry on 1907 summer camp. The men are wearing peak caps and holding the Brodrick. The writer says "Just falling in for the issue of the new peak cap." Postmark: May 19th 1907. Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 Just now, Alan24 said: The men are wearing peak caps and holding the Brodrick. Alan. Cracking photo Alan, but that is the Pill Box style forage cap not the Brodick. I do not believe any Yeomanry units were unlucky (or lucky) enough to wear it. From http://www.uniformology.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 Thanks for the correction Toby. Always ready to learn. Regards Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Brayley Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 1 hour ago, Alan24 said: Thank you for posting it is a wondeful image and a great photograph of the H.C.Y Shoulder title. It would have a welcome home in the below thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 10 January , 2019 Share Posted 10 January , 2019 5 hours ago, Toby Brayley said: Thank you for posting it is a wondeful image and a great photograph of the H.C.Y Shoulder title. Toby, thanks for the comment. If you pm me an email I'll let you have a higher res image for your personal use. Regards Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot#1 Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Sadly rather faded, but a fantastic image nevertheless.Hard to tell as the cap badge isn't clear, but I'm fairly certain it's 8th Hussars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 2 hours ago, elliot#1 said: Sadly rather faded, but a fantastic image nevertheless. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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